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kevin24018
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11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...
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11/11/2016 8:22:38 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...

I don't think Trump would allow it. That's a pretty long fence...Then again it looks like California might want to pay for it.
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11/11/2016 8:38:35 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/11/2016 8:22:38 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...

I don't think Trump would allow it. That's a pretty long fence...Then again it looks like California might want to pay for it.

I thought they would build a wall around California, that would solve many problems.
BobTheRocket2 wrote:
Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what, it's going to knock over the pieces, crap all over the board, and strut around like it's victorious.

"Beware the engineers of society, I say, who would make everyone in all the world equal. Opportunity should be equal, must be equal, but achievement must remain individual.
- Drizzt Do'Urden"
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11/11/2016 8:45:22 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/11/2016 8:38:35 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 11/11/2016 8:22:38 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...

I don't think Trump would allow it. That's a pretty long fence...Then again it looks like California might want to pay for it.

I thought they would build a wall around California, that would solve many problems.

Might as well. They've got their own laws, their own economy, their own cancer. Its Practically a separate country already.
kevin24018
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11/11/2016 8:48:44 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/11/2016 8:45:22 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/11/2016 8:38:35 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 11/11/2016 8:22:38 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...

I don't think Trump would allow it. That's a pretty long fence...Then again it looks like California might want to pay for it.

I thought they would build a wall around California, that would solve many problems.

Might as well. They've got their own laws, their own economy, their own cancer. Its Practically a separate country already.

very true, highest minimum wage of any state, highest gas prices etc etc too. No more federal money, they would go bankrupt in 2 years? maybe less?
BobTheRocket2 wrote:
Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what, it's going to knock over the pieces, crap all over the board, and strut around like it's victorious.

"Beware the engineers of society, I say, who would make everyone in all the world equal. Opportunity should be equal, must be equal, but achievement must remain individual.
- Drizzt Do'Urden"
Vox_Veritas
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11/12/2016 4:13:58 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...

Sure thing, just like Texas should've seceded when Obama won back in 2009, right?
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11/12/2016 1:28:37 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/12/2016 4:13:58 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...

Sure thing, just like Texas should've seceded when Obama won back in 2009, right?

did Texas have the momentum, numbers and movement that we are seeing now?
BobTheRocket2 wrote:
Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what, it's going to knock over the pieces, crap all over the board, and strut around like it's victorious.

"Beware the engineers of society, I say, who would make everyone in all the world equal. Opportunity should be equal, must be equal, but achievement must remain individual.
- Drizzt Do'Urden"
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11/12/2016 4:04:49 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/12/2016 1:28:37 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 11/12/2016 4:13:58 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...

Sure thing, just like Texas should've seceded when Obama won back in 2009, right?

did Texas have the momentum, numbers and movement that we are seeing now?

Point is, when a Democrat President wins, Red States will gripe and threaten to secede. When a Republican President wins, Blue States will gripe and threaten to secede.
I think the events of 150 years ago made it clear that a state may not secede from the Union. The U.S.S.R. collapsed because it made the mistake of adding a right to secede to its constitution.
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kevin24018
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11/12/2016 5:23:30 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/12/2016 4:04:49 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/12/2016 1:28:37 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 11/12/2016 4:13:58 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...

Sure thing, just like Texas should've seceded when Obama won back in 2009, right?

did Texas have the momentum, numbers and movement that we are seeing now?

Point is, when a Democrat President wins, Red States will gripe and threaten to secede. When a Republican President wins, Blue States will gripe and threaten to secede.
I think the events of 150 years ago made it clear that a state may not secede from the Union. The U.S.S.R. collapsed because it made the mistake of adding a right to secede to its constitution.

gripe yes, riot no
BobTheRocket2 wrote:
Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what, it's going to knock over the pieces, crap all over the board, and strut around like it's victorious.

"Beware the engineers of society, I say, who would make everyone in all the world equal. Opportunity should be equal, must be equal, but achievement must remain individual.
- Drizzt Do'Urden"
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11/14/2016 9:52:04 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...

I would definitely support this, but my concern is we'd have an additional millions of illegals pouring across our border, as Californicans realize they have to pay for all their liberal policies themselves. We can live without them, but they can't live without us. But I sure do wish they'd try.
kevin24018
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11/15/2016 12:58:59 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/14/2016 9:52:04 PM, idoubtit wrote:
At 11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...

I would definitely support this, but my concern is we'd have an additional millions of illegals pouring across our border, as Californicans realize they have to pay for all their liberal policies themselves. We can live without them, but they can't live without us. But I sure do wish they'd try.

yeah I agree, they can't live w/o us, that state is circling the drain, just compare price of average things like gas, things you need etc.
BobTheRocket2 wrote:
Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what, it's going to knock over the pieces, crap all over the board, and strut around like it's victorious.

"Beware the engineers of society, I say, who would make everyone in all the world equal. Opportunity should be equal, must be equal, but achievement must remain individual.
- Drizzt Do'Urden"
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11/15/2016 3:33:39 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
I'll admit, though, if California did secede it'd be like a gift from Heaven for the Republican Party. They'd win every election in the foreseeable future.
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kevin24018
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11/15/2016 1:01:11 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/15/2016 3:33:39 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I'll admit, though, if California did secede it'd be like a gift from Heaven for the Republican Party. They'd win every election in the foreseeable future.

ikr, I wonder if Trump would give them his blessing.
BobTheRocket2 wrote:
Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what, it's going to knock over the pieces, crap all over the board, and strut around like it's victorious.

"Beware the engineers of society, I say, who would make everyone in all the world equal. Opportunity should be equal, must be equal, but achievement must remain individual.
- Drizzt Do'Urden"
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12/7/2016 12:09:49 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...

Support for Calexit- It would allow a full democracy to be viable without a completely biased large land mass. This would allow the destruction of the electoral college which the democrats now apparently want.
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12/9/2016 7:50:53 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
Uhhmmm... I didn't know that. But, why do californians want to secede? You americans seem to be so homogeneous, culturally speaking. I mean, there are other independence movements in other parts of the world but they happen to culturally differ from the rest. For instance, in Catalonia people want to secede, but it is because they have been historically a different nation, they even have their own language. Well, all Spain are composed of different nations, it is a heterogeneous country.

If it is a money issue, it can be solved with a simple law. A secession seems to be so exagerated.

BR
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3/3/2017 11:18:29 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
As a Pennsylvanian, I'll gladly campaign to kick California out of the Union.

Californian culture evolved after WWII and the Cold War, and California is much less industrious than the rest of the US.

Your GDP is so high because your $14 minimum wage is double the federal set minimum. Most of the rest of the states get that minimum wage isn't supposed to be comfortable, because only people with no skills should work a minimum wage job. Raising it promotes mediocrity (Buzz Feed cough cough), as well as competition between the states, which is a big no no.

This upward spiral makes more people flock to California for the raised minimum wage, thus increasing demand of housing, thus increasing prices, and it goes on.

Californians buy a bunch more stuff they don't need, while most other states are fine working for their living. We're the ones that pulled the US through WWII and the Cold War. People can't eat movies.

I'd vote to kick California out of the Union for having such a priveledge complex that they feel the need to dictate what the rest of the US should do. You use your state rights. Thank the South for those. They fought and died for them in an bloody war, while Californians now moan that the US is just, like, too old school for California!

Being out of the Union will teach Californians humility. I'm all for it.
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3/3/2017 12:42:51 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
Oh, and you guys are a bigger welfare state than most of Europe. Good luck with that.

Get with the program, is all I have to say to Californians. If you like the free market, show some tough love. If people aren't inclined to work for pay, they'll never get off of welfare. People need to be motivated to make a free market society work... And there's a lot of slack on the West Coast.
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3/25/2017 2:47:12 PM
Posted: 1 day ago
At 11/11/2016 8:48:44 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 11/11/2016 8:45:22 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/11/2016 8:38:35 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 11/11/2016 8:22:38 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/11/2016 7:01:20 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
Please help California to secede from the US, it would be great for all of us.
http://www.abc10.com...

I don't think Trump would allow it. That's a pretty long fence...Then again it looks like California might want to pay for it.

I thought they would build a wall around California, that would solve many problems.

Might as well. They've got their own laws, their own economy, their own cancer. Its Practically a separate country already.

very true, highest minimum wage of any state, highest gas prices etc etc too. No more federal money, they would go bankrupt in 2 years? maybe less?

Bankrupt? Please. Cali has the 4th largest economy in the world. Literally one state is the 4th largest economy, better than the vast majority of countries.
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