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devinni01841
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2/23/2011 11:00:14 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'm doing an O.O. for Debate class... does anyone have any tips for me?
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2/23/2011 11:30:09 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
idk what that is....
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2/23/2011 11:47:24 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'd talk about privacy vs. security

point 1 Wikileaks
point 2 airport security
point 3 overbearing school searches
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2/23/2011 11:57:28 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/23/2011 11:47:24 AM, bluesteel wrote:
I'd talk about privacy vs. security

point 1 Wikileaks
point 2 airport security
point 3 overbearing school searches

my topic is the De-Americanization of america through peopl ewho completely refuse to assimilate...
I was looking for tips on how to memorize it quickly, or anythinkg I should include in my presentation?
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2/23/2011 12:38:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
To memorize:

divide the speech into 5 sections (intro, 3 points, conclusion)

say as much from memory as you can remember; if you think you messed up, check the written version of your speech. If you can't remember what comes next, check. The messing up part is actually a key part of memory acquisition.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
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2/23/2011 12:44:34 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/23/2011 11:57:28 AM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 2/23/2011 11:47:24 AM, bluesteel wrote:
I'd talk about privacy vs. security

point 1 Wikileaks
point 2 airport security
point 3 overbearing school searches

my topic is the De-Americanization of america through peopl ewho completely refuse to assimilate...
I was looking for tips on how to memorize it quickly, or anythinkg I should include in my presentation?

Pro or Con?

Anyway, yeah, memorization is a big thing.

One thing you can try to do for memorizing it and preparing to refute things by memory is doing practices with others.

Like try doing a debate here and post your arguments without looking at any sources (but if you need to you need to).
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2/23/2011 5:20:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Thanks for the advice every one!

At 2/23/2011 12:44:34 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 2/23/2011 11:57:28 AM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 2/23/2011 11:47:24 AM, bluesteel wrote:
I'd talk about privacy vs. security

point 1 Wikileaks
point 2 airport security
point 3 overbearing school searches

my topic is the De-Americanization of america through peopl ewho completely refuse to assimilate...
I was looking for tips on how to memorize it quickly, or anythinkg I should include in my presentation?

Pro or Con?

Anyway, yeah, memorization is a big thing.

One thing you can try to do for memorizing it and preparing to refute things by memory is doing practices with others.

Like try doing a debate here and post your arguments without looking at any sources (but if you need to you need to).

not sure what you mean by pro or con, OreEle, my position is that people refuse to assimilate at all, and my solution to fix it....
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2/23/2011 5:23:54 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
do you have to memorize it word for word or just the ideas and main structure? if the second, i've found its actually quite easy... just run through it a few times, making sure to check your notes for anything you may have missed each time.
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
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2/23/2011 8:36:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/23/2011 5:23:54 PM, belle wrote:
do you have to memorize it word for word or just the ideas and main structure? if the second, i've found its actually quite easy... just run through it a few times, making sure to check your notes for anything you may have missed each time.

Eventually I'll have to memorize word for word, but for now, It's main structure plus we get to have notecards, but i am terribleeaking off of outlines
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2/23/2011 8:37:24 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/23/2011 8:36:43 PM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 2/23/2011 5:23:54 PM, belle wrote:
do you have to memorize it word for word or just the ideas and main structure? if the second, i've found its actually quite easy... just run through it a few times, making sure to check your notes for anything you may have missed each time.

Eventually I'll have to memorize word for word, but for now, It's main structure plus we get to have notecards, but i am terribleeaking off of outlines

That sucks, having to memorize stuff word for word.
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2/23/2011 8:41:56 PM
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At 2/23/2011 8:36:43 PM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 2/23/2011 5:23:54 PM, belle wrote:
do you have to memorize it word for word or just the ideas and main structure? if the second, i've found its actually quite easy... just run through it a few times, making sure to check your notes for anything you may have missed each time.

Eventually I'll have to memorize word for word, but for now, It's main structure plus we get to have notecards, but i am terribleeaking off of outlines

How long do you have to memorize it?
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2/23/2011 9:25:14 PM
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At 2/23/2011 8:41:56 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 2/23/2011 8:36:43 PM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 2/23/2011 5:23:54 PM, belle wrote:
do you have to memorize it word for word or just the ideas and main structure? if the second, i've found its actually quite easy... just run through it a few times, making sure to check your notes for anything you may have missed each time.

Eventually I'll have to memorize word for word, but for now, It's main structure plus we get to have notecards, but i am terribleeaking off of outlines

How long do you have to memorize it?

My first presentation is due Friday morning, and the damn thing's not even written yet.... I know what I'm doing tonight....
There is nothing more bad-@ss than being yourself.

I solemnly swear I am up to no good.

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2/23/2011 9:48:44 PM
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At 2/23/2011 9:25:14 PM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 2/23/2011 8:41:56 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 2/23/2011 8:36:43 PM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 2/23/2011 5:23:54 PM, belle wrote:
do you have to memorize it word for word or just the ideas and main structure? if the second, i've found its actually quite easy... just run through it a few times, making sure to check your notes for anything you may have missed each time.

Eventually I'll have to memorize word for word, but for now, It's main structure plus we get to have notecards, but i am terribleeaking off of outlines

How long do you have to memorize it?

My first presentation is due Friday morning, and the damn thing's not even written yet.... I know what I'm doing tonight....

Surfing the internet! Me too!
devinni01841
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2/24/2011 4:36:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/23/2011 9:48:44 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 2/23/2011 9:25:14 PM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 2/23/2011 8:41:56 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 2/23/2011 8:36:43 PM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 2/23/2011 5:23:54 PM, belle wrote:
do you have to memorize it word for word or just the ideas and main structure? if the second, i've found its actually quite easy... just run through it a few times, making sure to check your notes for anything you may have missed each time.

Eventually I'll have to memorize word for word, but for now, It's main structure plus we get to have notecards, but i am terribleeaking off of outlines

How long do you have to memorize it?

My first presentation is due Friday morning, and the damn thing's not even written yet.... I know what I'm doing tonight....

Surfing the internet! Me too!

YESSS!!!! and my oratory is still NOT WRITTN!!! decent progress, though, I'll post a draft or something wen it's done, if anyone is interested
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2/24/2011 5:35:41 PM
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At 2/24/2011 4:36:19 PM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 2/23/2011 9:48:44 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 2/23/2011 9:25:14 PM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 2/23/2011 8:41:56 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 2/23/2011 8:36:43 PM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 2/23/2011 5:23:54 PM, belle wrote:
do you have to memorize it word for word or just the ideas and main structure? if the second, i've found its actually quite easy... just run through it a few times, making sure to check your notes for anything you may have missed each time.

Eventually I'll have to memorize word for word, but for now, It's main structure plus we get to have notecards, but i am terribleeaking off of outlines

How long do you have to memorize it?

My first presentation is due Friday morning, and the damn thing's not even written yet.... I know what I'm doing tonight....

Surfing the internet! Me too!

YESSS!!!! and my oratory is still NOT WRITTN!!! decent progress, though, I'll post a draft or something wen it's done, if anyone is interested

HAHAHAHAHAHA oh I'd just love to read it...
devinni01841
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2/25/2011 10:48:15 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/24/2011 5:35:41 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA oh I'd just love to read it...

was that sarcasm?
I'll post it later.. look for it around 5 or 6 p.m. central time...

(MY PRESENTATION SUCKED by the way....
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2/25/2011 11:06:38 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
(MY PRESENTATION SUCKED by the way....

Tip: If you feel like you are having trouble with memorization while delivering your speech, its good to impromptu or BS what you are saying so long as it is relevant to the topic, until you remember lines. The audience doesn't know you messed up until you make it clear you have.

Here's another tip, add alot of humor, jokes, or sarcasm remarks that you can relate to your topic. It helps keep an audiences interest, plus it lightens the mood in a debate room. :)

Looking forward to seeing your speech.
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3/2/2011 11:00:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/25/2011 11:06:38 AM, TUF wrote:
(MY PRESENTATION SUCKED by the way....

Tip: If you feel like you are having trouble with memorization while delivering your speech, its good to impromptu or BS what you are saying so long as it is relevant to the topic, until you remember lines. The audience doesn't know you messed up until you make it clear you have.

Here's another tip, add alot of humor, jokes, or sarcasm remarks that you can relate to your topic. It helps keep an audiences interest, plus it lightens the mood in a debate room. :)

Looking forward to seeing your speech.

Thanks... I've thought about sarcasm and humor alot, but there wasn't really any way to add any in to my topic that I could see... I am definitely changing my topic if I decide to put together an oratory for next year's "debate season"

Speaking of competing, cna anyone think of a legitimate reason for my school to not compete in the National Forensics League? My coach told me that someone on the board had some vendetta against our district, but it sounds like BS to me and my stepdad (an experienced debater) agrees...
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3/10/2011 11:17:49 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I was looking for tips on how to memorize it quickly

When time permits, please log on to www.nflonline.org then click on NFLTV then click on library, then scroll down to Original Oratory. There will be videos from a successful coach as well as students performing OO.

The intro, 3 points, and conclusion are an excellent strategy. Another idea is to create an acronym from the first letter of each main point. It's a handy way to keep yourself on track.

(example) In performing immediate action on an M-16 rifle we can use the handy acronym SPORTS.

Slap the bottom of the magazine
Pull the charging handle to the read
Observe the ejected round
Release the magazine and re-insert
Tap the forward assist
Shoot the rifle again

Good luck to you!