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6/3/2011 7:59:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
A man is a rape-supporter if…

He has ever sexually engaged with any woman while she was underage, drunk, high, physically restrained, unconscious, or subjected to psychological, physical, economic, or emotional coercion.
He defends the current legal definition of rape and/or opposes making consent a defense.
He has accused a rape victim of having "buyer's remorse" or wanting to get money from the man.
He has blamed a woman for "putting herself in a situation" where she "could be" attacked.
He has procured a prostitute.
He characterizes prostitution as a "legitimate" "job" "choice" or defends men who purchase prostitutes.
He has ever revealed he conceives of sex as fundamentally transactional.
He has gone to a strip club.
He is anti-abortion.
He is pro-"choice" because he believes abortion access will make women more sexually available.
He frames discussions of pornography in terms of "freedom of speech."
He watches pornography in which women are depicted.
He watches any pornography in which sexual acts are depicted as a struggle for power or domination, regardless of whether women are present.
He characterizes the self-sexualizing behavior of some women, such as wearing make-up or high heels, as evidence of women's desire to "get" a man.
He tells or laughs at jokes involving women being attacked, sexually "hoodwinked," or sexually harassed.
He expresses enjoyment of movies/musicals/TV shows/plays in which women are sexually demeaned or presented as sexual objects
He mocks women who complain about sexual attacks, sexual harassment, street cat-calls, media depictions of women, or other forms of sexual objectification.
He supports sexual "liberation" and claims women would have more sex with (more) men if society did not "inhibit" them.
He states or implies that women who do not want to have sex with men are "inhibited," "prudes," "stuck-up," "man-haters," or psychologically ill.
He argues that certain male behaviors towards women are "cultural" and therefore not legitimate subjects of feminist attention.
He ever subordinates the interests of women in a given population to the interests of the men in that population, or proceeds in discussions as if the interests of the women are the same as the interests of the men.
He promotes religious or philosophical views in which a woman's physical/psychological/emotional/sexual well-being is subordinated to a man's.
He describes female anatomy in terms of penetration, or uses terms referencing the supposed "emptiness" of female anatomy when describing women.
He defends the physical abuse of women on the grounds of "consent."
He defends the sexualization or sexual abuse of minor females on the grounds of "consent" or "willingness."
He promotes the idea that women as a class are happier or more fulfilled if they have children, or that they "should" have children.
He argues that people (or just "men") have sexual "needs."
He discusses the "types" of women he finds sexually appealing and/or attempts to demean women by telling them he does not find them sexually appealing.
He sexually objectifies lesbians or lesbian sexual activity.
He defends these actions by saying that some women also engage in them.

So, let's see how many women reading this know at least one male over the age of 18 who does not fit this list. Anybody?
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Me - i was being completely sarcastic
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6/3/2011 8:14:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/3/2011 7:59:47 PM, askbob wrote:
A man is a rape-supporter if…

He has ever sexually engaged with any woman while she was underage, drunk, high, physically restrained, unconscious, or subjected to psychological, physical, economic, or emotional coercion.
He defends the current legal definition of rape and/or opposes making consent a defense.
He has accused a rape victim of having "buyer's remorse" or wanting to get money from the man.
He has blamed a woman for "putting herself in a situation" where she "could be" attacked.
He has procured a prostitute.
He characterizes prostitution as a "legitimate" "job" "choice" or defends men who purchase prostitutes.
He has ever revealed he conceives of sex as fundamentally transactional.
He has gone to a strip club.
He is anti-abortion.
He is pro-"choice" because he believes abortion access will make women more sexually available.
He frames discussions of pornography in terms of "freedom of speech."
He watches pornography in which women are depicted.
He watches any pornography in which sexual acts are depicted as a struggle for power or domination, regardless of whether women are present.
He characterizes the self-sexualizing behavior of some women, such as wearing make-up or high heels, as evidence of women's desire to "get" a man.
He tells or laughs at jokes involving women being attacked, sexually "hoodwinked," or sexually harassed.
He expresses enjoyment of movies/musicals/TV shows/plays in which women are sexually demeaned or presented as sexual objects
He mocks women who complain about sexual attacks, sexual harassment, street cat-calls, media depictions of women, or other forms of sexual objectification.
He supports sexual "liberation" and claims women would have more sex with (more) men if society did not "inhibit" them.
He states or implies that women who do not want to have sex with men are "inhibited," "prudes," "stuck-up," "man-haters," or psychologically ill.
He argues that certain male behaviors towards women are "cultural" and therefore not legitimate subjects of feminist attention.
He ever subordinates the interests of women in a given population to the interests of the men in that population, or proceeds in discussions as if the interests of the women are the same as the interests of the men.
He promotes religious or philosophical views in which a woman's physical/psychological/emotional/sexual well-being is subordinated to a man's.
He describes female anatomy in terms of penetration, or uses terms referencing the supposed "emptiness" of female anatomy when describing women.
He defends the physical abuse of women on the grounds of "consent."
He defends the sexualization or sexual abuse of minor females on the grounds of "consent" or "willingness."
He promotes the idea that women as a class are happier or more fulfilled if they have children, or that they "should" have children.
He argues that people (or just "men") have sexual "needs."
He discusses the "types" of women he finds sexually appealing and/or attempts to demean women by telling them he does not find them sexually appealing.
He sexually objectifies lesbians or lesbian sexual activity.
He defends these actions by saying that some women also engage in them.

So, let's see how many women reading this know at least one male over the age of 18 who does not fit this list. Anybody?

Did you see TheAmazingAtheist too?
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6/3/2011 8:16:31 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Did you see this on the Amazing Atheist or somewhere else?
If you didn't, you should check out his video on it:
"Caitlyn Jenner is an incredibly brave and stunningly beautiful woman."

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6/3/2011 8:17:07 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/3/2011 8:14:47 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
Did you see TheAmazingAtheist too?

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6/3/2011 8:25:27 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
i would be a rape supporter, but she essentially says in the comments that women are excused, because we've been brainwashed or some shiz. this is why people don't like to call themselves feminists anymore.
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
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6/3/2011 8:42:54 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
haha no i saw the link posted on a debate group I'm invading on facebook
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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6/3/2011 9:06:07 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/3/2011 8:42:54 PM, askbob wrote:
haha no i saw the link posted on a debate group I'm invading on facebook

When are you actually going to "invade it"? I never see you post there, unless you changed your Facebook display name.

Anyways, this article has been a hot topic for a bunch of forums I visit and some of them are legitimate criteria. Such as:

He has ever sexually engaged with any woman while she was...drunk, high, physically restrained, unconscious, or subjected to psychological, physical, economic, or emotional coercion.

He has blamed a woman for "putting herself in a situation" where she "could be" attacked.

He characterizes the self-sexualizing behavior of some women, such as wearing make-up or high heels, as evidence of women's desire to "get" a man.

He mocks women who complain about sexual attacks, sexual harassment...

He argues that certain male behaviors towards women are "cultural" and therefore not legitimate subjects of feminist attention.

He defends the physical abuse of women on the grounds of "consent."
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
belle
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6/3/2011 9:10:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
really? hooking up with a girl when she's drunk is tantamount to supporting rape?
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
Korashk
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6/3/2011 9:35:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/3/2011 9:10:45 PM, belle wrote:
really? hooking up with a girl when she's drunk is tantamount to supporting rape?

Many would classify it as rape, outright. I understand the position even if I don't necessarily agree with it.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
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6/3/2011 9:40:53 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/3/2011 9:06:07 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 6/3/2011 8:42:54 PM, askbob wrote:
haha no i saw the link posted on a debate group I'm invading on facebook

When are you actually going to "invade it"? I never see you post there, unless you changed your Facebook display name.

I have 4 facebook accounts and I change the name every few months.

Anyways, this article has been a hot topic for a bunch of forums I visit and some of them are legitimate criteria. Such as:

He defends the physical abuse of women on the grounds of "consent."

So you don't believe in S&M?
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
Korashk
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6/3/2011 10:03:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/3/2011 9:40:53 PM, askbob wrote:
At 6/3/2011 9:06:07 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 6/3/2011 8:42:54 PM, askbob wrote:
haha no i saw the link posted on a debate group I'm invading on facebook

When are you actually going to "invade it"? I never see you post there, unless you changed your Facebook display name.

I have 4 facebook accounts and I change the name every few months.

Anyways, this article has been a hot topic for a bunch of forums I visit and some of them are legitimate criteria. Such as:


He defends the physical abuse of women on the grounds of "consent."

So you don't believe in S&M?

I wouldn't call S&M abuse. I interpreted that one more along the lines of abusive relationships where the woman refuses to go to the cops.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
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6/3/2011 10:21:52 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/3/2011 10:03:58 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 6/3/2011 9:40:53 PM, askbob wrote:
At 6/3/2011 9:06:07 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 6/3/2011 8:42:54 PM, askbob wrote:
haha no i saw the link posted on a debate group I'm invading on facebook

When are you actually going to "invade it"? I never see you post there, unless you changed your Facebook display name.

I have 4 facebook accounts and I change the name every few months.

Anyways, this article has been a hot topic for a bunch of forums I visit and some of them are legitimate criteria. Such as:


He defends the physical abuse of women on the grounds of "consent."

So you don't believe in S&M?

I wouldn't call S&M abuse. I interpreted that one more along the lines of abusive relationships where the woman refuses to go to the cops.

It's by definition physical abuse, but that's the problem with the list it's either ridiculous or vague.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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6/4/2011 9:09:47 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/3/2011 7:59:47 PM, askbob wrote:
A man is a rape-supporter if…
He watches pornography in which women are depicted.
He watches any pornography in which sexual acts are depicted as a struggle for power or domination, regardless of whether women are present.

*let's out deep breath*

Whew! Dodged a bullet there! I only watch porn with consenting males who are all polite to each other and continually ask if anything they are doing is uncomfortable!
kfc
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6/4/2011 9:14:23 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/3/2011 7:59:47 PM, askbob wrote:
A man is a rape-supporter if…

He has ever sexually engaged with any woman while she was underage, drunk, high, physically restrained, unconscious, or subjected to psychological, physical, economic, or emotional coercion.
He defends the current legal definition of rape and/or opposes making consent a defense.
He has accused a rape victim of having "buyer's remorse" or wanting to get money from the man.
He has blamed a woman for "putting herself in a situation" where she "could be" attacked.
He has procured a prostitute.
He characterizes prostitution as a "legitimate" "job" "choice" or defends men who purchase prostitutes.
He has ever revealed he conceives of sex as fundamentally transactional.
He has gone to a strip club.
He is anti-abortion.
He is pro-"choice" because he believes abortion access will make women more sexually available.
He frames discussions of pornography in terms of "freedom of speech."
He watches pornography in which women are depicted.
He watches any pornography in which sexual acts are depicted as a struggle for power or domination, regardless of whether women are present.
He characterizes the self-sexualizing behavior of some women, such as wearing make-up or high heels, as evidence of women's desire to "get" a man.
He tells or laughs at jokes involving women being attacked, sexually "hoodwinked," or sexually harassed.
He expresses enjoyment of movies/musicals/TV shows/plays in which women are sexually demeaned or presented as sexual objects
He mocks women who complain about sexual attacks, sexual harassment, street cat-calls, media depictions of women, or other forms of sexual objectification.
He supports sexual "liberation" and claims women would have more sex with (more) men if society did not "inhibit" them.
He states or implies that women who do not want to have sex with men are "inhibited," "prudes," "stuck-up," "man-haters," or psychologically ill.
He argues that certain male behaviors towards women are "cultural" and therefore not legitimate subjects of feminist attention.
He ever subordinates the interests of women in a given population to the interests of the men in that population, or proceeds in discussions as if the interests of the women are the same as the interests of the men.
He promotes religious or philosophical views in which a woman's physical/psychological/emotional/sexual well-being is subordinated to a man's.
He describes female anatomy in terms of penetration, or uses terms referencing the supposed "emptiness" of female anatomy when describing women.
He defends the physical abuse of women on the grounds of "consent."
He defends the sexualization or sexual abuse of minor females on the grounds of "consent" or "willingness."
He promotes the idea that women as a class are happier or more fulfilled if they have children, or that they "should" have children.
He argues that people (or just "men") have sexual "needs."
He discusses the "types" of women he finds sexually appealing and/or attempts to demean women by telling them he does not find them sexually appealing.
He sexually objectifies lesbians or lesbian sexual activity.
He defends these actions by saying that some women also engage in them.

So, let's see how many women reading this know at least one male over the age of 18 who does not fit this list. Anybody?

Lol. Where the hell did you find this list?
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6/4/2011 3:05:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/4/2011 3:03:56 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
Did anyone here not classify as a rape supporter?

I'm not. I don't know what kind of sick fvck could be on that list though, I guess there are a lot of nasty people out in this world.
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6/4/2011 3:07:21 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/4/2011 3:05:39 PM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 6/4/2011 3:03:56 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
Did anyone here not classify as a rape supporter?

I'm not. I don't know what kind of sick fvck could be on that list though, I guess there are a lot of nasty people out in this world.

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6/4/2011 3:33:30 PM
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At 6/4/2011 3:05:39 PM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
Didn't read the thread.

You should.
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6/4/2011 9:06:35 PM
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: At 12/6/2011 2:21:41 PM, badger wrote:
: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
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6/4/2011 9:28:37 PM
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I should probably add the obligatory libertarian point that the feminist rejection of consent is logically indefensible, but (rightfully) no one seems to be taking this ridiculous rant seriously anyway.
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6/4/2011 9:30:41 PM
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At 6/4/2011 9:28:37 PM, Grape wrote:
I should probably add the obligatory libertarian point that the feminist rejection of consent is logically indefensible, but (rightfully) no one seems to be taking this ridiculous rant seriously anyway.

Not taking rants about supporting rape seriously, means you support rape.
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6/4/2011 9:39:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/4/2011 9:30:41 PM, Puck wrote:
At 6/4/2011 9:28:37 PM, Grape wrote:
I should probably add the obligatory libertarian point that the feminist rejection of consent is logically indefensible, but (rightfully) no one seems to be taking this ridiculous rant seriously anyway.

Not taking rants about supporting rape seriously, means you support rape.

I already support rape. See the following chain of reasoning:

1. Rape is non-consensual sexual interactions
2. I am against all non-consensual interactions
3. Logic is androcentric and feminist philosophers are not bound by it
4. I support rape
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6/4/2011 9:50:12 PM
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At 6/4/2011 3:05:39 PM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 6/4/2011 3:03:56 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
Did anyone here not classify as a rape supporter?

I'm not. I don't know what kind of sick fvck could be on that list though, I guess there are a lot of nasty people out in this world.

Simply being anti-abortion classifies one as a rape supporter, as others have pointed out though, Justin Bieber opposes abortion, but other than the fact that you admire him, he isn't worth much.

The point is that many good people fit the definition of being a rape supporter, people whom you call "sick fvcks".

Like half of the Americans who oppose abortion

Like the majority of males who view porn

Like nearly every single person who has laughed at sex jokes.

You will have a difficult time meeting a firefighter, a proffessor, a policeman, a war hero, an elderly man, a pastor, a farmer, a pilot, a buisnessman, etc who is not a "sick fvck" or a "nasty person".

That's why you and anyone else who attempts to defend the legitimacy of this list is an outright moron and should be ashamed of themselves.
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6/4/2011 9:52:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/4/2011 3:05:39 PM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 6/4/2011 3:03:56 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
Did anyone here not classify as a rape supporter?

I'm not. I don't know what kind of sick fvck could be on that list though, I guess there are a lot of nasty people out in this world.

Sarcasm alert. The above is sarcasm.
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6/4/2011 9:53:52 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/4/2011 9:50:12 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
At 6/4/2011 3:05:39 PM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 6/4/2011 3:03:56 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
Did anyone here not classify as a rape supporter?

I'm not. I don't know what kind of sick fvck could be on that list though, I guess there are a lot of nasty people out in this world.

Simply being anti-abortion classifies one as a rape supporter, as others have pointed out though, Justin Bieber opposes abortion, but other than the fact that you admire him, he isn't worth much.

The point is that many good people fit the definition of being a rape supporter, people whom you call "sick fvcks".

Like half of the Americans who oppose abortion

Like the majority of males who view porn

Like nearly every single person who has laughed at sex jokes.

You will have a difficult time meeting a firefighter, a proffessor, a policeman, a war hero, an elderly man, a pastor, a farmer, a pilot, a buisnessman, etc who is not a "sick fvck" or a "nasty person".

That's why you and anyone else who attempts to defend the legitimacy of this list is an outright moron and should be ashamed of themselves.

Actually, 50% of the American population manages to pass. Women are exempt because trolololololol derp derp derp!