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lovelife
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11/18/2011 10:41:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Recently I've been noticing that I'm going through some changes. I was worried at first but I'm still confused. Its like I don't even know who I am anymore. What does this mean? I'm a free market libertarian socialist. Like wtf is that???

Reasons?
I support public school, health care, etc etc but finding a system to work lead me to:

I support public schools and health care etc having compitition that would gain financial support based on quality and customer satisfaction. Similar to current school programs with rival schools, charter and magnet schools, home schooling, and private schools.

Which in turn lead me to support free market principals overall and revoking

Which lead
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lovelife
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11/18/2011 10:43:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Grrr dumb phone.

Which in turn lead to me discovered my support for the free market and revoke support for AA and min wage.
Its like I don't even know who I am anymore when I look at my thoughts 2 years ago compared to now.
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000ike
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11/18/2011 10:46:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
whats a libertarian socialist? Sounds like an oxymoron. Come to think of it, what's a free-market socialist?

Anyway, if its not obvious which ideology you belong to then you're probably a moderate.
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
darkkermit
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11/18/2011 10:47:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/18/2011 10:43:28 PM, lovelife wrote:
Grrr dumb phone.

Which in turn lead to me discovered my support for the free market and revoke support for AA and min wage.
Its like I don't even know who I am anymore when I look at my thoughts 2 years ago compared to now.

Join the dark side !!!

People's political views change. I used to be an environmentalist. Not so much anymore.
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lovelife
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11/18/2011 10:55:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/18/2011 10:47:28 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Join the dark side !!!

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People's political views change. I used to be an environmentalist. Not so much anymore.

Why not? I know they change but it literally only took three discussions. Two of which you were a part of!
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11/18/2011 10:56:17 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/18/2011 10:46:02 PM, 000ike wrote:
whats a libertarian socialist? Sounds like an oxymoron. Come to think of it, what's a free-market socialist?

Anyway, if its not obvious which ideology you belong to then you're probably a moderate.

I think libertarian socialist is doable. I think Libertarians believe taxation is inevitable, just not necessary in most cases especially with a corrupt, bloated government.
So if Libertarians can tolerate some level of taxation, why would they necessarily be opposed to a socialist progressive taxation scheme? In other words, I think it is the amount of taxes that libertarians are upset with. Not with taxation itself, or how that limited taxation is implemented.
lovelife
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11/18/2011 10:58:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/18/2011 10:46:02 PM, 000ike wrote:
whats a libertarian socialist? Sounds like an oxymoron. Come to think of it, what's a free-market socialist?

Anyway, if its not obvious which ideology you belong to then you're probably a moderate.

Did you read my clearifications?
I believe in public options for all (socialist)
I believe in free market principals of success and customer based satisfaction. (Free market)
And I believe in complete personal freedom (that does not infringe on others, such as violence, drugging someone, stealing, etc. Which is libertarian)
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darkkermit
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11/18/2011 11:33:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/18/2011 10:55:39 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 11/18/2011 10:47:28 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Join the dark side !!!

Cookies?
People's political views change. I used to be an environmentalist. Not so much anymore.

Why not? I know they change but it literally only took three discussions. Two of which you were a part of!

I've come to realize that Global warming alarmist is largely liberal paranoia. I also think that the DDT ban is largely responsible for the deaths of millions of africans just to save some f*cking birds. Also, the idea that the forests are in decline do not support the data. Contrary to popular belief, our airs and water are cleaner then ever before.
I believe that free markets with property rights are the best ways to solve problems of resource depletion.

I'm flattered by the impact.

However, Socialpinko beats you. He did a complete 180 and went from a communist to an anarcho-capitalist
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lovelife
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11/18/2011 11:50:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Okay my quoting on my phone is f*cked up so just deal with it >. <

At 11/18/2011 11:33:48 PM, darkkermit wrote:
However, Socialpinko beats you. He did a complete 180 and went from a communist to an anarcho-capitalist

Not surprised to hear that actually. He seemed the type.
I've come to realize that Global warming alarmist is largely liberal paranoia. I also think that the DDT ban is largely responsible for the deaths of millions of africans just to save some f*cking birds. Also, the idea that the forests are in decline do not support the data. Contrary to popular belief, our airs and water are cleaner then ever before.
I believe that free markets with property rights are the best ways to solve problems of resource depletion.

I still need to look into that bird thing.
I'm flattered by the impact.
You make me question myself on a fundemental level and play prob the single largest role of making me active here again and your only "flattered"? *gasp* lol
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bluesteel
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11/19/2011 12:30:59 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
For the first 30 seconds of reading, I thought this thread was a "I just got my period" thread.

Until I saw libertarian socialist.
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Lickdafoot
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11/19/2011 12:36:19 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/18/2011 10:41:47 PM, lovelife wrote:
Recently I've been noticing that I'm going through some changes. I was worried at first but I'm still confused. Its like I don't even know who I am anymore. What does this mean? I'm a free market libertarian socialist. Like wtf is that???


isn't that a good thing though? who wants to stay the same? you are learning, growing, becoming a better you. :)
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InsertNameHere
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11/19/2011 12:37:29 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
This really doesn't surprise me, considering most people on this site tend to convert to libertarianism in some form or another. It seems us true moderates are a dying breed, at least on DDO, lol.
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11/19/2011 9:36:32 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/19/2011 12:37:29 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
This really doesn't surprise me, considering most people on this site tend to convert to libertarianism in some form or another. It seems us true moderates are a dying breed, at least on DDO, lol.

DDO has become increasingly leftist though.
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lovelife
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11/19/2011 10:50:42 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/19/2011 12:37:29 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
This really doesn't surprise me, considering most people on this site tend to convert to libertarianism in some form or another. It seems us true moderates are a dying breed, at least on DDO, lol.

Ddo didn't convert me I converted myself.
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lovelife
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11/19/2011 10:51:18 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/19/2011 12:30:59 AM, bluesteel wrote:
For the first 30 seconds of reading, I thought this thread was a "I just got my period" thread.


Until I saw libertarian socialist.

Lol that was the point. I wanted to make it somewhat humorous.
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