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3/6/2012 10:25:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Has anyone considered joining up in the military? Anyone working on joining? Anyone already serve?

If so, what branch? Why? What would you want as, will be your, or was your occupation? What's your story? I'd love to hear it.
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3/6/2012 11:00:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:25:07 PM, M.Torres wrote:
Has anyone considered joining up in the military? Anyone working on joining? Anyone already serve?

If so, what branch? Why? What would you want as, will be your, or was your occupation? What's your story? I'd love to hear it.

I'm going to shoot for one of the academies, or will likely enlist for a little bit after college. Probably air force because Pararescue sounds pretty fun.
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3/6/2012 11:02:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:25:07 PM, M.Torres wrote:
Has anyone considered joining up in the military? Anyone working on joining? Anyone already serve?

If so, what branch? Why? What would you want as, will be your, or was your occupation? What's your story? I'd love to hear it.

Been playing around with the idea to join either the Army or the Marines. I'd go as Infantryman, and shoot for as high as I could go.
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3/6/2012 11:07:13 PM
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If I get under a 3.0 I go to military school.
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3/7/2012 12:07:27 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I used to want to join the marines. Now I'm not so sure.

At 3/6/2012 11:13:58 PM, darkkermit wrote:
considering navy for nuclear submarines. However it seems like a big commitment so not really sure.

That's exactly what my dad did.
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3/7/2012 12:10:15 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'm interested in ROTC to become an Officer. I'm not committed to that, by any means, but at least two years to see how it fits. I just don't know whether I'd want to do AROTC, AFROTC, or NROTC for the Marine program. I can't quite figure out which branch I would want to settle into, but Air Force appeals to me most, to be honest.
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3/7/2012 1:05:11 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Well I've actually joined a gym. When I get the old six pack back, I'm thinking of joining the Marines as a pilot.
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3/7/2012 10:52:57 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:25:07 PM, M.Torres wrote:
Has anyone considered joining up in the military? Anyone working on joining? Anyone already serve?

If so, what branch? Why? What would you want as, will be your, or was your occupation? What's your story? I'd love to hear it.:

Served 4 years in the Navy as a military police officer, 3 years in the Naval Reserve, and 4 years in the Coast Guard as a law enforcement specialist. Got out almost exactly a year ago.
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3/7/2012 10:54:55 AM
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At 3/6/2012 11:07:13 PM, 16kadams wrote:
If I get under a 3.0 I go to military school.:

The military academies require a high GPA. There's no real college experience at any of the schools. It's like boot camp for 4 years.
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3/7/2012 10:57:09 AM
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At 3/6/2012 11:13:58 PM, darkkermit wrote:
considering navy for nuclear submarines. However it seems like a big commitment so not really sure.:

Nuke school is the toughest academic school in the entire military. Nuke's make good money with huge bonuses because with that kind of training you can easily find a high-paying job on the outside. They know they have to compensate them well. BUT the life of a submariner sucks balls... takes a special kind of mentality to deal with that.
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3/7/2012 10:59:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 10:57:09 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 3/6/2012 11:13:58 PM, darkkermit wrote:
considering navy for nuclear submarines. However it seems like a big commitment so not really sure.:

Nuke school is the toughest academic school in the entire military. Nuke's make good money with huge bonuses because with that kind of training you can easily find a high-paying job on the outside. They know they have to compensate them well. BUT the life of a submariner sucks balls... takes a special kind of mentality to deal with that.

I'm pretty sure my dad loved it.
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3/7/2012 11:16:13 AM
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Yes; Marines; Why? Because they are the best that America has to offer and I want to be the best. :)

Other reasons include: Money for collage, healthcare benefits. and a free trip around the world to shoot idiots.
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3/7/2012 2:22:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 11:13:58 PM, darkkermit wrote:
considering navy for nuclear submarines. However it seems like a big commitment so not really sure.

I did that...it was fun! but the school is pretty gruelling...16 hour days in school...
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3/7/2012 2:25:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 10:57:09 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 3/6/2012 11:13:58 PM, darkkermit wrote:
considering navy for nuclear submarines. However it seems like a big commitment so not really sure.:

Nuke school is the toughest academic school in the entire military. Nuke's make good money with huge bonuses because with that kind of training you can easily find a high-paying job on the outside. They know they have to compensate them well. BUT the life of a submariner sucks balls... takes a special kind of mentality to deal with that.

I remember When I cashed my nuclear bonus check at age 20... $4800 cash after taxes... man I blew that sooo fast; I was pretty dumb at the time...
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3/7/2012 2:42:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:25:07 PM, M.Torres wrote:
Has anyone considered joining up in the military? Anyone working on joining? Anyone already serve?

If so, what branch? Why? What would you want as, will be your, or was your occupation? What's your story? I'd love to hear it.

I was considering to join the U.S. Army. I'm in JROTC currently, if and when i am enlisted i will be automatically a 2nd luitenant. Most likley map reading, coordinations anything that keeps me away from the hot zone. Iv'e always had interest of the military ever since i can't remember. I hope they will let me in even though i have Touretts Syndrome.
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3/7/2012 5:37:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 10:57:09 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 3/6/2012 11:13:58 PM, darkkermit wrote:
considering navy for nuclear submarines. However it seems like a big commitment so not really sure.:

Nuke school is the toughest academic school in the entire military. Nuke's make good money with huge bonuses because with that kind of training you can easily find a high-paying job on the outside. They know they have to compensate them well. BUT the life of a submariner sucks balls... takes a special kind of mentality to deal with that.

They eat good though.
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3/7/2012 8:27:52 PM
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One thing that annoys me is that as a culture we are brainwashed to constantly thank our troops for their "service." I think most people who join the military are either (a) completely desperate and have no better options, or (b) probably have some deep-rooted psychological issues. Many have proven to be closet homosexuals or complete sociopath killing machines who mask their destructive urges by taking them out on brown people in the name of "defending" America.

Of course there are those who genuinely want to "serve their country" or take on a military career as a somewhat noble endeavor. And obviously many people in the military are incredibly qualified: trained and intelligent. I apologize in advance to PL or anyone else this post might offend; it just happens to be my sentiment based on experience with people involved.

I can't see why one would voluntarily sign many of their rights away and devote their entire lives to this career. I also couldn't carry out some of the military requirements in good conscience considering I don't even believe in the legitimacy of the current military in general, let alone carry out many of the morally abhorrent actions they'd require. A friend of mine in the military told me they psychologically profile everyone, and he was put in a special class of people who could push a button and nuke an entire town if told to do so without a second thought or hesitation and feel guilt-free (or close to it). I could not.

By joining the military I feel like I would be feeding into the Military Industrial Complex and overall doing my "country" and myself a great disservice. The only way I'd personally join up is if I thought there were no better career prospects or alternatives in terms of my career or personal fulfillment. Then again I could say the exact same thing about prostitution. Heh. I hope nobody on this site feels that way :/
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3/7/2012 8:31:00 PM
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At 3/7/2012 8:27:52 PM, Danielle wrote:
One thing that annoys me is that as a culture we are brainwashed to constantly thank our troops for their "service." I think most people who join the military are either (a) completely desperate and have no better options, or (b) probably have some deep-rooted psychological issues. Many have proven to be closet homosexuals or complete sociopath killing machines who mask their destructive urges by taking them out on brown people in the name of "defending" America.

Of course there are those who genuinely want to "serve their country" or take on a military career as a somewhat noble endeavor. And obviously many people in the military are incredibly qualified: trained and intelligent. I apologize in advance to PL or anyone else this post might offend; it just happens to be my sentiment based on experience with people involved.

I can't see why one would voluntarily sign many of their rights away and devote their entire lives to this career. I also couldn't carry out some of the military requirements in good conscience considering I don't even believe in the legitimacy of the current military in general, let alone carry out many of the morally abhorrent actions they'd require. A friend of mine in the military told me they psychologically profile everyone, and he was put in a special class of people who could push a button and nuke an entire town if told to do so without a second thought or hesitation and feel guilt-free (or close to it). I could not.

By joining the military I feel like I would be feeding into the Military Industrial Complex and overall doing my "country" and myself a great disservice. The only way I'd personally join up is if I thought there were no better career prospects or alternatives in terms of my career or personal fulfillment. Then again I could say the exact same thing about prostitution. Heh. I hope nobody on this site feels that way :/

I think that adults 30 years and older know perfectly well what they are doing and have their head straight and all that, its these kids in high school and college who are thrilled about being in the military who I think are out of their minds, no better options, yatta yatta yatta.
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3/7/2012 9:03:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
@Danielle

I have several friends who have joined the military/plan to, and trust me, they are not taking this decision because they have no other options, or just because they are stupid.

AND It's a good career choice, it looks good on a job application, and allows you access to many benefits.

Not to mention many of them are doing it to serve their country.

Also, why shouldn't we thank them? They are willing to lay their lives on the line for us, and regardless of what war they were in, they deserve our gratitude.
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3/7/2012 9:17:25 PM
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At 3/7/2012 9:03:00 PM, OberHerr wrote:
@Danielle

I have several friends who have joined the military/plan to, and trust me, they are not taking this decision because they have no other options, or just because they are stupid.

AND It's a good career choice, it looks good on a job application, and allows you access to many benefits.

Not to mention many of them are doing it to serve their country.

Also, why shouldn't we thank them? They are willing to lay their lives on the line for us, and regardless of what war they were in, they deserve our gratitude.

Eh.

As I said in an earlier thread, I see it as merely another career. I never understood the whole veteran-worship we have here. Of course, they should have adequate medical/psych care because that comes from their direct line of work, but still.

In fact, it would make more sense to me to thank a policeman, fireman, or mailman. They serve me more directly.
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3/7/2012 9:33:32 PM
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At 3/7/2012 2:22:58 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/6/2012 11:13:58 PM, darkkermit wrote:
considering navy for nuclear submarines. However it seems like a big commitment so not really sure.

I did that...it was fun! but the school is pretty gruelling...16 hour days in school...

Hmmm, interesting. I'm taking the nuclear engineering minor at my college so that's why it's attracted me. 16 hours a day? That seems kind of much. What stuff do you learn? I rarely absorb stuff through lectures in the first place.
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3/7/2012 9:36:05 PM
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At 3/7/2012 10:54:55 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 3/6/2012 11:07:13 PM, 16kadams wrote:
If I get under a 3.0 I go to military school.:

The military academies require a high GPA. There's no real college experience at any of the schools. It's like boot camp for 4 years.

I don't think he meant an academy. I mean an academy, and the Air Force Academy is number 2 in the country for undergrad (?) in aerospace engineering, and the Naval Academy is tied for number 3. Embry-riddle in FL is first and Embry-riddle in AZ is tied for third.
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3/7/2012 9:37:54 PM
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At 3/7/2012 11:16:13 AM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
Yes; Marines; Why? Because they are the best that America has to offer and I want to be the best. :)

Everyone has their top. I'm fairly certain Pararescue could go toe-to-toe with the marines, or come out on top.

Other reasons include: Money for collage, healthcare benefits. and a free trip around the world to shoot idiots.
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3/7/2012 9:44:04 PM
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At 3/7/2012 8:27:52 PM, Danielle wrote:
One thing that annoys me is that as a culture we are brainwashed to constantly thank our troops for their "service." I think most people who join the military are either (a) completely desperate and have no better options, or (b) probably have some deep-rooted psychological issues. Many have proven to be closet homosexuals or complete sociopath killing machines who mask their destructive urges by taking them out on brown people in the name of "defending" America.

Of course there are those who genuinely want to "serve their country" or take on a military career as a somewhat noble endeavor. And obviously many people in the military are incredibly qualified: trained and intelligent. I apologize in advance to PL or anyone else this post might offend; it just happens to be my sentiment based on experience with people involved.

I can't see why one would voluntarily sign many of their rights away and devote their entire lives to this career. I also couldn't carry out some of the military requirements in good conscience considering I don't even believe in the legitimacy of the current military in general, let alone carry out many of the morally abhorrent actions they'd require. A friend of mine in the military told me they psychologically profile everyone, and he was put in a special class of people who could push a button and nuke an entire town if told to do so without a second thought or hesitation and feel guilt-free (or close to it). I could not.

By joining the military I feel like I would be feeding into the Military Industrial Complex and overall doing my "country" and myself a great disservice. The only way I'd personally join up is if I thought there were no better career prospects or alternatives in terms of my career or personal fulfillment. Then again I could say the exact same thing about prostitution. Heh. I hope nobody on this site feels that way :/

I personally don't feel that it's right to sit back and let other people put their lives on the line. While wars like that in Iraq and Afghanistan may not be good, our military does plenty of good things. They're just overlooked because they aren't as exciting. Plus, I could do many other things if I wanted. Such as engineering. Other than to serve my country, I'm applying to two of the military academies because they're in the top 4 schools for aerospace engineering.
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3/7/2012 9:44:46 PM
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At 3/7/2012 8:31:00 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/7/2012 8:27:52 PM, Danielle wrote:
One thing that annoys me is that as a culture we are brainwashed to constantly thank our troops for their "service." I think most people who join the military are either (a) completely desperate and have no better options, or (b) probably have some deep-rooted psychological issues. Many have proven to be closet homosexuals or complete sociopath killing machines who mask their destructive urges by taking them out on brown people in the name of "defending" America.

Of course there are those who genuinely want to "serve their country" or take on a military career as a somewhat noble endeavor. And obviously many people in the military are incredibly qualified: trained and intelligent. I apologize in advance to PL or anyone else this post might offend; it just happens to be my sentiment based on experience with people involved.

I can't see why one would voluntarily sign many of their rights away and devote their entire lives to this career. I also couldn't carry out some of the military requirements in good conscience considering I don't even believe in the legitimacy of the current military in general, let alone carry out many of the morally abhorrent actions they'd require. A friend of mine in the military told me they psychologically profile everyone, and he was put in a special class of people who could push a button and nuke an entire town if told to do so without a second thought or hesitation and feel guilt-free (or close to it). I could not.

By joining the military I feel like I would be feeding into the Military Industrial Complex and overall doing my "country" and myself a great disservice. The only way I'd personally join up is if I thought there were no better career prospects or alternatives in terms of my career or personal fulfillment. Then again I could say the exact same thing about prostitution. Heh. I hope nobody on this site feels that way :/

I think that adults 30 years and older know perfectly well what they are doing and have their head straight and all that, its these kids in high school and college who are thrilled about being in the military who I think are out of their minds, no better options, yatta yatta yatta.

Perfectly sane and plenty of options thank you very much.
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3/7/2012 9:47:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 9:03:00 PM, OberHerr wrote:
@Danielle

I have several friends who have joined the military/plan to, and trust me, they are not taking this decision because they have no other options, or just because they are stupid.

AND It's a good career choice, it looks good on a job application, and allows you access to many benefits.

Not to mention many of them are doing it to serve their country.

Also, why shouldn't we thank them? They are willing to lay their lives on the line for us, and regardless of what war they were in, they deserve our gratitude.

Apparently not. Some people can't acknowledge the risk our troops take and the fact that they do good things. All we see is the bad. This is modern media, and that's all they want. They have hunting portrayed as one of the most dangerous activities ever when, in reality, it's one of the safest. Also, we had a 4 soldiers in school today. I thanked them. Highlight of my day. That can be taken as good or bad.
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3/7/2012 9:58:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 9:47:10 PM, blackhawk1331 wrote:
At 3/7/2012 9:03:00 PM, OberHerr wrote:
@Danielle

I have several friends who have joined the military/plan to, and trust me, they are not taking this decision because they have no other options, or just because they are stupid.

AND It's a good career choice, it looks good on a job application, and allows you access to many benefits.

Not to mention many of them are doing it to serve their country.

Also, why shouldn't we thank them? They are willing to lay their lives on the line for us, and regardless of what war they were in, they deserve our gratitude.

Apparently not. Some people can't acknowledge the risk our troops take and the fact that they do good things. All we see is the bad. This is modern media, and that's all they want. They have hunting portrayed as one of the most dangerous activities ever when, in reality, it's one of the safest. Also, we had a 4 soldiers in school today. I thanked them. Highlight of my day. That can be taken as good or bad.

Or neutral. :)
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3/7/2012 11:13:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 8:27:52 PM, Danielle wrote:
One thing that annoys me is that as a culture we are brainwashed to constantly thank our troops for their "service." I think most people who join the military are either (a) completely desperate and have no better options, or (b) probably have some deep-rooted psychological issues. Many have proven to be closet homosexuals or complete sociopath killing machines who mask their destructive urges by taking them out on brown people in the name of "defending" America.
1. I am far from desperate. :P

2. I have no mental issues.

I am only doing it so I can get accepted to a private contracting agency. Plus I actually have honour something you would never understand!


Of course there are those who genuinely want to "serve their country" or take on a military career as a somewhat noble endeavor. And obviously many people in the military are incredibly qualified: trained and intelligent. I apologize in advance to PL or anyone else this post might offend; it just happens to be my sentiment based on experience with people involved.
Oh ok. :)

I can't see why one would voluntarily sign many of their rights away and devote their entire lives to this career. I also couldn't carry out some of the military requirements in good conscience considering I don't even believe in the legitimacy of the current military in general, let alone carry out many of the morally abhorrent actions they'd require. A friend of mine in the military told me they psychologically profile everyone, and he was put in a special class of people who could push a button and nuke an entire town if told to do so without a second thought or hesitation and feel guilt-free (or close to it). I could not.
I could! Because I would get money out of it and because if I did it would most likely be for a very good reason (i.e. last chance defense).

By joining the military I feel like I would be feeding into the Military Industrial Complex and overall doing my "country" and myself a great disservice. The only way I'd personally join up is if I thought there were no better career prospects or alternatives in terms of my career or personal fulfillment. Then again I could say the exact same thing about prostitution. Heh. I hope nobody on this site feels that way :/
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