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Do not punch in a street fight

Lasagna
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6/29/2012 8:21:12 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Good advice. I was in a street fight once and did exactly what this guy warns against. I threw a hay-maker at his head, he lowered, and my hand shattered all over the top of his cranium with no damage to him.
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6/29/2012 8:39:25 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Exactly. Everyone knows you're supposed to go for a throat jab. ;)
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6/29/2012 10:04:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
In a street fight, pull out your knife. That will beat someone's cranium.
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6/29/2012 10:15:26 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Against an unexperienced opponent, a good kick would put him out of commission, without any blows being landed on you.

A back kick or even a regular round house will be enough for you to escape or get in close to him.
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6/29/2012 10:31:16 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 10:04:32 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
In a street fight, pull out your knife. That will beat someone's cranium.

I personally recommend an RPG.
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6/29/2012 10:33:00 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Get wrist control.
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6/29/2012 10:34:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Take up Rex Kwon Do
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6/29/2012 11:36:04 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 10:31:16 AM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 6/29/2012 10:04:32 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
In a street fight, pull out your knife. That will beat someone's cranium.

I personally recommend an RPG.

Some studies have recently come out that suggest that RPGs might not be as useful in hand to hand combat as once believed.
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6/29/2012 6:22:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 11:36:04 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/29/2012 10:31:16 AM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 6/29/2012 10:04:32 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
In a street fight, pull out your knife. That will beat someone's cranium.

I personally recommend an RPG.

Some studies have recently come out that suggest that RPGs might not be as useful in hand to hand combat as once believed.

Exactly. I prefer using a tactical nuclear bomb.
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6/29/2012 8:59:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Exactly. Everyone knows you're supposed to go for a throat jab. ;)
Tucking the chin takes care of that just as much as a chin shot.

Incidentally, if ya screw up the karate chop or a slap or whatever or they screw it up for you by moving unpredictably, bad things can happen.. fingers can get tangled and swell up like hell. So his solutions aren't guaranteed, though they are of course better than punching without hand protection.
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6/29/2012 9:00:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 7:41:26 PM, drafterman wrote:
I prefer temporal-spatial relocation.

Wise. :P
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6/29/2012 9:42:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 8:40:34 PM, Wnope wrote:
The only issue is that one bad swing and you're branded forever as a "slap-fighter."

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6/29/2012 9:44:25 PM
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At 6/29/2012 8:40:34 PM, Wnope wrote:
The only issue is that one bad swing and you're branded forever as a "slap-fighter."

Not necessarily a bad thing...
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6/29/2012 9:47:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
In any case, what is with this "top of the head" jazz?

When you punch someone, it's in the face, such as in the eye, or in the mouth. Lowering your head just makes that easier. :\

That's why boxers bleed over their eyes all the time and wear mouth guards.

I haven't been in many fights. But, generally, you kind of end up wrestling, then punching someone when you get a real good open shot. Just flailing will get you tossed or kicked in the nuts. If the dude's talking too much, just pop him in the mouth.

Seriously, unless you're fighting someone who does MMA, a good sock to the mouth with end it:
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6/29/2012 9:51:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
CCW permit > fist
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6/29/2012 9:53:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 9:51:09 PM, 16kadams wrote:
CCW permit > fist

bringing a gun to a fistfight = murder
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6/29/2012 10:11:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 9:53:14 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 6/29/2012 9:51:09 PM, 16kadams wrote:
CCW permit > fist

bringing a gun to a fistfight = murder

lol Yeah, I thought it was a little weird that the guy was just outright saying "and if you have a knife or gun, you can't use it if your knuckles are broken!"
SOOO not the Tae Kwon Do way haha
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6/29/2012 11:07:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Actually, if you break your knuckles, you won't feel it for a good 30 minutes, plenty of time to keep using them during the fight for holding and using a gun or knife.

I broke my wrist about 2 months ago and was able to bike home before really feeling anything (though that night was a bitch).
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6/29/2012 11:16:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 11:07:46 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Actually, if you break your knuckles, you won't feel it for a good 30 minutes, plenty of time to keep using them during the fight for holding and using a gun or knife.

I broke my wrist about 2 months ago and was able to bike home before really feeling anything (though that night was a bitch).

Probably even more so if you've got a bunch of adrenaline going (which is likely).

Or if you've done crystal meth recently! :D
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6/29/2012 11:25:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 11:16:34 PM, Oryus wrote:
At 6/29/2012 11:07:46 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Actually, if you break your knuckles, you won't feel it for a good 30 minutes, plenty of time to keep using them during the fight for holding and using a gun or knife.

I broke my wrist about 2 months ago and was able to bike home before really feeling anything (though that night was a bitch).

Probably even more so if you've got a bunch of adrenaline going (which is likely).

Or if you've done crystal meth recently! :D

I'm poor, I can only afford Cubic Zirconia Meth.
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6/29/2012 11:29:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 11:25:29 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/29/2012 11:16:34 PM, Oryus wrote:
At 6/29/2012 11:07:46 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Actually, if you break your knuckles, you won't feel it for a good 30 minutes, plenty of time to keep using them during the fight for holding and using a gun or knife.

I broke my wrist about 2 months ago and was able to bike home before really feeling anything (though that night was a bitch).

Probably even more so if you've got a bunch of adrenaline going (which is likely).

Or if you've done crystal meth recently! :D

I'm poor, I can only afford Cubic Zirconia Meth.

HAHAHAH!!!!! I'm using that irl IMMEDIATELY!
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6/30/2012 12:03:46 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
If you're in a fight and don't care about style points, the best thing to do is kick the guy in balls, then break his nose with your elbow. The elbows are the hardest part of the body.
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6/30/2012 12:24:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 9:47:25 PM, Ren wrote:
When you punch someone, it's in the face, such as in the eye, or in the mouth.
When you punch someone you aim for the chin, any boxer knows that. Knocking someone's teeth out, giving them a black eye or a bloody nose, these aren't fight enders.
Lowering your head just makes that easier. :\
Tucking your chin makes hitting your chin much much more difficult.


That's why boxers bleed over their eyes all the time and wear mouth guards.
They also have these things called "Gloves."

True, punching above someone's eyes (which will hurt an unprotected fist like hell even if you're on the money, unless you just don't have much punching power anyway) may cause bleeding (a slashing elbow from muay thai is a better bet for that though if you know how to do it). But that doesn't end fights. The only reasons it's even sort of appealing are that in long fights blood might get the fight called and/or interfere with vision, both occurring because in boxing you have two trained endurance athletes going at it, with a set of rules that limits you to a few targets (primarily the chin) that have much chance of actually ending the fight, which are consequently well-guarded In a street fight, where things tend to be much shorter (and stances tend less toward the face-to-face anyway just because you don't wanna get kicked in the nuts) it's just not worth it-- I mean, if you know how to do the elbow like that, take it if its whats there for ya, but even if ya can guarantee popping their eyebrow open, you haven't really made much progress.
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6/30/2012 12:37:27 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/30/2012 12:03:46 AM, bluesteel wrote:
If you're in a fight and don't care about style points, the best thing to do is kick the guy in balls, then break his nose with your elbow. The elbows are the hardest part of the body.

Actually, after you kick them in the balls, while they're are hunched over in pain, you knee them in the nose. If they fall onto their back, defeated, go ahead and take a piss on their chest and walk away victorious. If the knee to the face causes them to fly up, but they come back down to land on the chest, give them props and leave them like that and walk away victorious.

Personally, I'm against smacking other guys with my wenis (though it isn't really called the "wenis").
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6/30/2012 1:54:05 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/30/2012 12:37:27 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/30/2012 12:03:46 AM, bluesteel wrote:
If you're in a fight and don't care about style points, the best thing to do is kick the guy in balls, then break his nose with your elbow. The elbows are the hardest part of the body.

Actually, after you kick them in the balls, while they're are hunched over in pain, you knee them in the nose. If they fall onto their back, defeated, go ahead and take a piss on their chest and walk away victorious. If the knee to the face causes them to fly up, but they come back down to land on the chest, give them props and leave them like that and walk away victorious.

Personally, I'm against smacking other guys with my wenis (though it isn't really called the "wenis").

XD Dude, you're on a roll tonight.
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6/30/2012 1:57:25 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 10:04:32 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
In a street fight, pull out your Beretta. That will beat someone's cranium.
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6/30/2012 2:01:01 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/29/2012 11:25:29 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/29/2012 11:16:34 PM, Oryus wrote:
At 6/29/2012 11:07:46 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Actually, if you break your knuckles, you won't feel it for a good 30 minutes, plenty of time to keep using them during the fight for holding and using a gun or knife.

I broke my wrist about 2 months ago and was able to bike home before really feeling anything (though that night was a bitch).

Probably even more so if you've got a bunch of adrenaline going (which is likely).

Or if you've done crystal meth recently! :D

I'm poor, I can only afford Cubic Zirconia Meth.

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