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10/3/2012 10:38:57 AM Posted: 5 years ago You heard the news about this serious matter I am sure.
But really you guys. Should elementary kids(pre-teens) be given after morning pills or condoms while in school in order to prevent pregnancy. Its your call. What do you have to say about this issue. |
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10/3/2012 10:40:55 AM Posted: 5 years ago No.
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13 |
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10/3/2012 11:18:56 AM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 10:40:55 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote: Do you disagree. |
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10/3/2012 11:19:58 AM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 11:18:56 AM, inferno wrote:At 10/3/2012 10:40:55 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote: Yes. 'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13 |
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10/3/2012 3:08:01 PM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 10:38:57 AM, inferno wrote: Pretty awful actually. How about killing a baby that survives abortion? |
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10/3/2012 3:11:20 PM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 3:08:01 PM, innomen wrote:At 10/3/2012 10:38:57 AM, inferno wrote: I am sure that this has happened before Mr Innomen. But if we lower our standards even more as a nation, then the bottom will fall out. |
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10/3/2012 3:12:20 PM Posted: 5 years ago Can they even do that? I mean.....I've never hear of someone in elementary school being that.....developed....
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10/3/2012 4:00:44 PM Posted: 5 years ago Elementary school? I didn't hear that. It would seem unnecessary though. First, what third grader is getting down and second, what third grader is developed enough to get pregnant?
If we're talking middle and high school though, it seems fine. Better than abortion isn't it? I hear some people frown upon that sort of thing. |
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10/3/2012 4:04:23 PM Posted: 5 years ago I don't see why it's necessary, but why not?
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10/3/2012 4:04:59 PM Posted: 5 years ago Regardless of the age of the kid I am against it. Schools should not be that involved in their lives and are essentially taking away the responsibilities of the parent.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey. |
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10/3/2012 4:09:49 PM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 4:04:59 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote: Does this extend to every other subject which you for some reason think should be exclusive to parents? What's with people and being so up tight? |
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10/3/2012 4:45:31 PM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 4:09:49 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:04:59 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote: Mostly. Is there any reason you think the school has the right to do this? What's with people and being so up tight? I am a fairly relaxed individual. I didn't order assholes with my whiskey. |
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10/3/2012 4:52:29 PM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 4:45:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:It's not a matter of right, it's a matter of why someone objects. Prima facie there's no problem, so the onus is on the person bringing an objection to it. I've never seen a good reason to put this area of life in some special sacred shelf above everything else. What's the difference between that and giving out life preservers?At 10/3/2012 4:09:49 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:04:59 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote: |
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10/3/2012 5:07:13 PM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 4:52:29 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:45:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:It's not a matter of right, it's a matter of why someone objects. Prima facie there's no problem, so the onus is on the person bringing an objection to it. I've never seen a good reason to put this area of life in some special sacred shelf above everything else. What's the difference between that and giving out life preservers?At 10/3/2012 4:09:49 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:04:59 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote: Because many people find the issue of birth control to be a moral issue. And thus the question is do schools have a right to interfere in the parenting process to that extent? I didn't order assholes with my whiskey. |
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10/3/2012 5:10:20 PM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 4:00:44 PM, socialpinko wrote: Ok, I think this is just over dramatic. Seriously.
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10/3/2012 5:16:35 PM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 5:07:13 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:52:29 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:45:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:It's not a matter of right, it's a matter of why someone objects. Prima facie there's no problem, so the onus is on the person bringing an objection to it. I've never seen a good reason to put this area of life in some special sacred shelf above everything else. What's the difference between that and giving out life preservers? If some Amish family is uncomfortable by the idea of a school offering birth control, they can go to a school that doesn't. This is the problem with having a public school system. Someone's gonna feel uncomfortable. Stop socializing something as personal as education and privatize that shiz. |
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10/3/2012 5:35:16 PM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 5:16:35 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:07:13 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:52:29 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:45:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:It's not a matter of right, it's a matter of why someone objects. Prima facie there's no problem, so the onus is on the person bringing an objection to it. I've never seen a good reason to put this area of life in some special sacred shelf above everything else. What's the difference between that and giving out life preservers? Compete agreement. I was just about to get to that. I didn't order assholes with my whiskey. |
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10/3/2012 5:41:00 PM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 5:35:16 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:16:35 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:07:13 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:52:29 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:45:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:It's not a matter of right, it's a matter of why someone objects. Prima facie there's no problem, so the onus is on the person bringing an objection to it. I've never seen a good reason to put this area of life in some special sacred shelf above everything else. What's the difference between that and giving out life preservers? However, if they are going to force the educational system, I would prefer that they would not force their sexual morality on kids. I didn't order assholes with my whiskey. |
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10/3/2012 6:16:43 PM Posted: 5 years ago http://www.zazzle.com...
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10/3/2012 9:06:42 PM Posted: 5 years ago Morning after pills are one thing. Those are pills for the morning that comes after an unusual occurrence.
After morning pills? Like, pop one after every morning? Wtf? It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man. |
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10/4/2012 10:41:51 AM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 9:06:42 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote: Are you in favor of sexual activity taking place with pre teens in private. |
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10/4/2012 10:04:11 PM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/4/2012 10:41:51 AM, inferno wrote:At 10/3/2012 9:06:42 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote: If the pre-teens are, sure. If they'd prefer it be in public, that's fine too. Why? It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man. |
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10/5/2012 2:57:24 AM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/3/2012 5:41:00 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:35:16 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:16:35 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:07:13 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:52:29 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:45:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:It's not a matter of right, it's a matter of why someone objects. Prima facie there's no problem, so the onus is on the person bringing an objection to it. I've never seen a good reason to put this area of life in some special sacred shelf above everything else. What's the difference between that and giving out life preservers? How does distributing condoms impose sexual morality on someone? How does distributing condoms "interfere with the parenting process"? |
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10/5/2012 3:08:26 AM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/5/2012 2:57:24 AM, BlackVoid wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:41:00 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:35:16 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:16:35 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:07:13 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:52:29 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:45:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:It's not a matter of right, it's a matter of why someone objects. Prima facie there's no problem, so the onus is on the person bringing an objection to it. I've never seen a good reason to put this area of life in some special sacred shelf above everything else. What's the difference between that and giving out life preservers? The major issue most people have with the two of these is the moral issue. Whether it be against religious belief, increase sexual activity, or just they don't like it. Parents shouldn't be allowed to force their morals on children. |
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10/5/2012 4:20:49 AM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/5/2012 2:57:24 AM, BlackVoid wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:41:00 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:35:16 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:16:35 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:07:13 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:52:29 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:45:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:It's not a matter of right, it's a matter of why someone objects. Prima facie there's no problem, so the onus is on the person bringing an objection to it. I've never seen a good reason to put this area of life in some special sacred shelf above everything else. What's the difference between that and giving out life preservers? Because contraceptives is a moral issue for many Christian denomination. When you give them to kids, it condones the use of contraceptives and the like. It parents want their kids to have condoms. they can easily buy the condoms for them.
Mainly for the reasons I posted above. Schools do not have the right to raise kids in place of the school. Like Social said earlier. Much of my problems with these can be solved by privatization and giving parents a choice in where they send their kids. I didn't order assholes with my whiskey. |
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10/5/2012 4:23:38 AM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/5/2012 3:08:26 AM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:At 10/5/2012 2:57:24 AM, BlackVoid wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:41:00 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:35:16 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:16:35 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:07:13 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:52:29 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:45:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:It's not a matter of right, it's a matter of why someone objects. Prima facie there's no problem, so the onus is on the person bringing an objection to it. I've never seen a good reason to put this area of life in some special sacred shelf above everything else. What's the difference between that and giving out life preservers? I want to hear you thought process behind your position. What you propose could lead to some serious difficultly when it comes to raising kids to be productive members of society. I didn't order assholes with my whiskey. |
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10/5/2012 5:44:32 AM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/5/2012 4:20:49 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:This is like arguing that if someone has a religious belief that prohibits him from eating beef (i.e. if he is a Hindu), the school ought not distribute beef in the cafeteria because he could potentially purchase it. Making contraceptives available does not violate the rights of parents; the students are free to take them, and they do not have to take them if they have moral prohibitions against doing so.At 10/5/2012 2:57:24 AM, BlackVoid wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:41:00 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:35:16 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:16:35 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:07:13 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:52:29 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:45:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:It's not a matter of right, it's a matter of why someone objects. Prima facie there's no problem, so the onus is on the person bringing an objection to it. I've never seen a good reason to put this area of life in some special sacred shelf above everything else. What's the difference between that and giving out life preservers? Schools exist both to provide children with moral and academic educations. Are you opposed to the sexual morality that is imposed on students in health class? Some pagan religions promote extramarital and premarital sex. Do you think that teaching students to be sexually "moral" in classrooms is destructive to the parenting process for these children? Should those programs be abolished, or ought we do something more sensible and permit the children to opt out? Like Social said earlier. Much of my problems with these can be solved by privatization and giving parents a choice in where they send their kids. Parents already have this choice. Private schools already exist, and parents are free to send their children to these schools at any time. I know because I transferred to a private high school in 10th grade the day before school began. |
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10/5/2012 10:38:39 AM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/4/2012 10:04:11 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:At 10/4/2012 10:41:51 AM, inferno wrote:At 10/3/2012 9:06:42 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote: Because they are not at a stage where they are mature enough to deal with the psychological and physical implications of sexual activity. Morality does have its place especially when it comes to such a personal issue as this. |
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10/5/2012 10:40:58 AM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/5/2012 5:44:32 AM, royalpaladin wrote:At 10/5/2012 4:20:49 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:This is like arguing that if someone has a religious belief that prohibits him from eating beef (i.e. if he is a Hindu), the school ought not distribute beef in the cafeteria because he could potentially purchase it. Making contraceptives available does not violate the rights of parents; the students are free to take them, and they do not have to take them if they have moral prohibitions against doing so.At 10/5/2012 2:57:24 AM, BlackVoid wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:41:00 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:35:16 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:16:35 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 5:07:13 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:52:29 PM, socialpinko wrote:At 10/3/2012 4:45:31 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:It's not a matter of right, it's a matter of why someone objects. Prima facie there's no problem, so the onus is on the person bringing an objection to it. I've never seen a good reason to put this area of life in some special sacred shelf above everything else. What's the difference between that and giving out life preservers? When it comes to sex it involved spiritual and deep psychological influences that they may not be ready to deal with at such a young age. School provides a platform that will educate and protect our children from making unecessary mistakes that could cost them plenty long term. |
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10/5/2012 10:47:46 AM Posted: 5 years ago At 10/5/2012 10:38:39 AM, inferno wrote:I'll let reality be the judge of that. If they don't manage to deal with it in one manner or another, it just won't happen.At 10/4/2012 10:04:11 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:At 10/4/2012 10:41:51 AM, inferno wrote:At 10/3/2012 9:06:42 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote: Morality does have its placeMy morality requires leaving people the hell alone to make their own decisions. It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man. |