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CJKAllstar
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4/28/2014 1:44:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Debate.org is a great site. But let's face it, you have hours of prep, and the whole internet at your disposal. This May, I'm going to a debating competition which details aren't important. In short, the top 128 debaters or so in...basically the country + a few people from other countries who are under 15 will be going there.

http://icyd.cus.org...

I am pretty nervous. Who am I kidding, I am a nervous wreck. I don't know how to practice other than spontaneously debate people and learn logical fallacies.

Basically, ich bin asking for advice. How do you actually practice for something like this? Experienced debaters, what do you do? Tips and advice in general would be greatly appreciated for practising and debating in general. If anyone can actually be bothered, an analysis of my debating and how I need to improve would be great.

Ah jast wan' helpz!

Danke!
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4/28/2014 2:39:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
You're actually a pretty good debater! Don't sweat it!
seriously, you only have 3 losses.

You lost to:
--the guy with the highest elo on the website, who was only beaten by one debater in his entire history of debating
--some poetry challenge. PSh! Not that you're ever gonna debate about whose poem is better in real life.
--this guy with a higher elo than you who only lost 2 times, one of which was unfair, one of which he forfeited. So technically he lost none which was fair and he didn't forfeit.

As you can see you are a very very good debater. You're only 14, and you have a mighty high elo of above 3,000! No sweat man, if the rest of your team's equally as good as you, then you'll win with no problem!
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4/28/2014 2:54:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 2:39:27 PM, 9spaceking wrote:
You're actually a pretty good debater! Don't sweat it!
seriously, you only have 3 losses.

You lost to:
--the guy with the highest elo on the website, who was only beaten by one debater in his entire history of debating
--some poetry challenge. PSh! Not that you're ever gonna debate about whose poem is better in real life.
--this guy with a higher elo than you who only lost 2 times, one of which was unfair, one of which he forfeited. So technically he lost none which was fair and he didn't forfeit.

As you can see you are a very very good debater. You're only 14, and you have a mighty high elo of above 3,000! No sweat man, if the rest of your team's equally as good as you, then you'll win with no problem!

I do really appreciate that, but debating online is so much easier. Right now, because I'm not an expert debater, my biggest strength is utilising information. I can easily identify which piece of information is needed, how to use it, when and where. With the internet, this is easy. However with 15 minutes, a Whitaker's Almanack and my general knowledge, it isn't as easy.
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4/28/2014 5:53:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 1:44:39 PM, CJKAllstar wrote:
Debate.org is a great site. But let's face it, you have hours of prep, and the whole internet at your disposal. This May, I'm going to a debating competition which details aren't important. In short, the top 128 debaters or so in...basically the country + a few people from other countries who are under 15 will be going there.

http://icyd.cus.org...

I am pretty nervous. Who am I kidding, I am a nervous wreck. I don't know how to practice other than spontaneously debate people and learn logical fallacies.

Basically, ich bin asking for advice. How do you actually practice for something like this? Experienced debaters, what do you do? Tips and advice in general would be greatly appreciated for practising and debating in general. If anyone can actually be bothered, an analysis of my debating and how I need to improve would be great.

Ah jast wan' helpz!

Danke!

Bring this to the attention of ClassicRobert. He loves doing live video debates, so I'm sure he could help you out. I've heard Thett3 and Zaradi also have quite a bit of experience doing real live debates, as well.
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4/28/2014 8:23:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 1:44:39 PM, CJKAllstar wrote:
Debate.org is a great site. But let's face it, you have hours of prep, and the whole internet at your disposal. This May, I'm going to a debating competition which details aren't important. In short, the top 128 debaters or so in...basically the country + a few people from other countries who are under 15 will be going there.

http://icyd.cus.org...

I am pretty nervous. Who am I kidding, I am a nervous wreck. I don't know how to practice other than spontaneously debate people and learn logical fallacies.

Basically, ich bin asking for advice. How do you actually practice for something like this? Experienced debaters, what do you do? Tips and advice in general would be greatly appreciated for practising and debating in general. If anyone can actually be bothered, an analysis of my debating and how I need to improve would be great.

Ah jast wan' helpz!

Danke!

For the last couple tournaments I've been to, I've just prepped by doing practice debates. Zaradi helped me out with my first LD tournament, and Thett helped me out for my most recent one. I know Whiteflame and Larztheloser both have experience with BP debating, so I'd advise you ask them to do some debates with you, as they would probably be the best resources (I also believe that both of them have judged officially, so that should also be helpful from a feedback standpoint). I can offer my time to do some practice debates with you after May 12.

Other things I recommend doing, due to the style that your doing: Read the newspaper front to back every day, pick a topic, prep for thirty minutes, and then practice giving impromptu speeches within your time limits, preferably in front of a camera so you can watch yourself and pick up on some of your unfortunate mannerisms (when I was watching my debate against Thett, I noticed I said "um" a lot, and I've been working to correct that), find a debate on here, look at the resolution, give yourself thirty minutes of prep (or however much it is you actually get), read one of the sides constructive cases, and then immediately turn on your timer and refute it.

In regards to feedback, I believe I gave you some in my vote on the pornography debate.
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4/28/2014 9:07:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Yeah if you want to do some unfilmed live video debates for practice I would be down for that
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4/29/2014 11:47:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 2:54:37 PM, CJKAllstar wrote:

I do really appreciate that, but debating online is so much easier. Right now, because I'm not an expert debater, my biggest strength is utilising information. I can easily identify which piece of information is needed, how to use it, when and where. With the internet, this is easy. However with 15 minutes, a Whitaker's Almanack and my general knowledge, it isn't as easy.

I know what you mean. It's like that for me whenever I participate in my district's Model United Nations conference. Online, I'm much more confident and it's much less stressful. But in the MUN conference, I would get nervous whenever I stand up to say something in front of the 250 people there. And once, when I had to walk up the stage to give a Pro speech for a resolution, I was shaking and stuttering.

But I've noticed that experience on DDO does help. For example, it was on DDO that I learned that people like to use semantics to their advantage. After I gave my Pro speech, I was opened to points of inquiry. Almost immediately, a kid representing Italy stood up and tried to humiliate me by pointing out that the definition of one of the words I used in my speech contradicted with the resolution, which it really didn't. I announced to him that using petty semantics to oppose the resolution is out of order, especially when everyone in the room knows what I really meant, nor is it a valid point of inquiry for my Pro speech. Luckily, I had my laptop with me on stage, so I quickly did a Google search of the definition and simply pulled out another definition. The boy sat back down like a humiliated dog. I never felt more proud in my life.
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4/30/2014 12:43:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I eat mah wheaties.

Then ah digest mah wheaties.

Then ah poop mah wheaties.

Then ah eat mah wheaties again.
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4/30/2014 12:44:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Moo! Imma f*cking cow!
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