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7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
How would you describe/define it?
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7/17/2014 9:06:19 PM
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Depression to me is a state of being stuck in sadness and despair, like your in a deep pain that drains you and make you stuck in life, you don't feel like doing anything at all. You feel blue and hopeless. I sometimes have those days of depression every now and then as life bring me down. It's hard to move on.
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7/17/2014 9:16:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

That feeling when a terrible tv show comes on, but you're too lazy to change the channel, so you just give up and watch it anyway. But you feel like that all the time.
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7/18/2014 12:29:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

It's different for everybody. Some people lie around and just do nothing. Others become irritated easily. If you sense you might suffer from it, you should see a professional.
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7/18/2014 12:40:26 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

sleeping for days and days. Being too lazy to talk to anyone, feeling bad you feel bad because you know you don't actually have it bad
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7/18/2014 8:46:12 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I've been suffering from depression for a long time, I've had my bachelor's degree since 2009 and I still haven't gotten any meaningful employment because I refuse to look for a job. Cleaning my house is difficult. I've been single for so long I don't think I'd know what to do with a woman if I had one LOL. I'm not sure if that last one is because I'm depressed and don't pursue them or that I just have good sense...

I've improved my situation recently by surrounding myself with people who inspire me to better myself, I think that is the biggest key. I've gotten a recent surge of energy and I'm riding it to success. I think energy is a big factor in depression, it sucks you dry of it and leaves you unable to do anything productive, and you spend your time doing nothing but trying to sate your desires. For me that usually means smoking weed, watching porn, eating sweets, and worst of all, idling away my time while my life slowly falls apart and the hole I'm digging gets deeper and more intimidating to try and crawl out of. Bills start adding up, interest and late fees start accumulating, and I'm living out of a pile of clothes that I can't get the motivation to fold.

The other day I got rid of all my smoking paraphernalia, started looking for a job again, and I woke up early this morning and cleaned my house. I'm back in the saddle again for the moment, but I will have to be careful not to fall back off...
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7/18/2014 1:24:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
You are so sad and hopeless that it is painful to get through the next minute without breaking down, so that you can't even fathom getting through the next hour, or even the next day without a suicide attempt.
One day I saw a man walking down the street, and he walked up to me and said, "Did you know that humans are the only species who tear down trees to make paper, and then write 'save the trees!' on them." I was amazed, then everyone else looked at him and glared with annoyance. I was the only one that actually cared, about the trees, about the man, about the world.
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7/18/2014 8:59:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/18/2014 8:46:12 AM, R0b1Billion wrote:
I've been suffering from depression for a long time, I've had my bachelor's degree since 2009 and I still haven't gotten any meaningful employment because I refuse to look for a job. Cleaning my house is difficult. I've been single for so long I don't think I'd know what to do with a woman if I had one LOL. I'm not sure if that last one is because I'm depressed and don't pursue them or that I just have good sense...

I've improved my situation recently by surrounding myself with people who inspire me to better myself, I think that is the biggest key. I've gotten a recent surge of energy and I'm riding it to success. I think energy is a big factor in depression, it sucks you dry of it and leaves you unable to do anything productive, and you spend your time doing nothing but trying to sate your desires. For me that usually means smoking weed, watching porn, eating sweets, and worst of all, idling away my time while my life slowly falls apart and the hole I'm digging gets deeper and more intimidating to try and crawl out of. Bills start adding up, interest and late fees start accumulating, and I'm living out of a pile of clothes that I can't get the motivation to fold.

The other day I got rid of all my smoking paraphernalia, started looking for a job again, and I woke up early this morning and cleaned my house. I'm back in the saddle again for the moment, but I will have to be careful not to fall back off...

Glad you're doing so well. Good job!
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7/18/2014 9:00:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/18/2014 1:24:13 PM, nikidavis wrote:
You are so sad and hopeless that it is painful to get through the next minute without breaking down, so that you can't even fathom getting through the next hour, or even the next day without a suicide attempt.

1-800-273-8255

Please call if you need to talk to someone...
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7/18/2014 11:02:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

This picture someone drew conveys it pretty accurately to me: http://audricvsfood.tumblr.com...

But in my own words - it's like a fictional demon sitting on your shoulder. It weighs you down and fatigues you. It tells you distorted ideas about yourself and of the future and you start to believe them. It steals and drains the satisfaction you get from having emotions. Each and every kind of emotion, even the negative ones. It does feel good to be a little sad or angry sometimes. There's something healthy about it that adds balance to your life and makes you more appreciative of having positive emotions.

With depression, there's very little contrast to positive emotions because you're usually not feeling them, and if you are, it's not intense joy or intense excitement. So naturally, the depressed individual yearns for an even flow of positive emotions. But that desire in itself is self-defeating because, in reality, who feels a constant flow of positive emotions? So here's this little depression monster who's hurt and drained you over a long period of time and now you want to heal and get rid of the monster. But the recovery process is flawed because in life, you won't experience a nice flow of happiness.

It's like telling someone who broke their leg, "Here, use these crutches for half a day today, half a day tomorrow, etc.... until you're healed." The recovery process will automatically be painful. It's mixed with a lot of bad - how can you expect the outcome to be an overall good thing? Through this method, full recovery might not even be possible. Because by walking on a broken leg half of the time, you risk further injury and, quite possibly, a permanent disability or disfigurement. Full recovery seems futile then. That's the lens a depressed person sees through. Satisfaction with one's life seems unattainable. You might even believe you want something that doesn't exist. That's where emptiness and numbness come in - you can't comprehend how you're supposed to address such an "uncontrollable" factor in your life. It doesn't even matter if it is controllable. By that point, you are so far into believing it is that it'll take a lot to pull you out of believing it.

That's not necessarily how every depressed person feels, but I'm sure it's not too far off for everyone.

A hopeful message: Things can turn around. Maybe not a full 360, but they can become much more manageable, and life can honestly be enjoyable again.
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7/19/2014 7:36:25 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/18/2014 12:29:39 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

It's different for everybody. Some people lie around and just do nothing. Others become irritated easily. If you sense you might suffer from it, you should see a professional.

Just for the psychiatrists to use you as a lab rat...
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7/19/2014 7:37:55 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Everyone suffers from depression on way or another... If someone claims they don't, that is a load of crap in their pants...
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7/19/2014 7:49:37 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/19/2014 7:36:25 AM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/18/2014 12:29:39 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

It's different for everybody. Some people lie around and just do nothing. Others become irritated easily. If you sense you might suffer from it, you should see a professional.

Just for the psychiatrists to use you as a lab rat...

No some people actually have a chemical imbalance that is easily fixed. There is no point in living through that if an easy fix is available.

My fiance takes Wellbutrin, which is a miracle drug.
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7/19/2014 8:13:13 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/19/2014 7:49:37 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:36:25 AM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/18/2014 12:29:39 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

It's different for everybody. Some people lie around and just do nothing. Others become irritated easily. If you sense you might suffer from it, you should see a professional.

Just for the psychiatrists to use you as a lab rat...

No some people actually have a chemical imbalance that is easily fixed. There is no point in living through that if an easy fix is available.

My fiance takes Wellbutrin, which is a miracle drug.

Some people are thought to have a chemical imbalance, but are actually normal and given these drugs just to make them abnormal and out of order... By the way... lets look at something real quick, Did you know these psychiatric drugs are no different from street drugs?

By this standard, then everyone should be able to take street drugs correct?

Also, lets look at all the side effects of this specific psychiatric medication..

"Nausea, vomiting, dry mouth, headache, constipation, increased sweating, joint aches, sore throat, blurred vision, strange taste in the mouth, or dizziness may occur. If any of these effects persist or worsen, notify your doctor or pharmacist promptly.
Remember that your doctor has prescribed this medication because he or she has judged that the benefit to you is greater than the risk of side effects. Many people using this medication do not have serious side effects.
Tell your doctor immediately if any of these unlikely but serious side effects occur: chest pain, fainting, fast/pounding/irregular heartbeat, hearing problems, ringing in the ears, severe headache, mental/mood changes (e.g., agitation, anxiety, confusion, hallucinations, memory loss), uncontrolled movements (tremor), unusual weight loss or gain.
Tell your doctor immediately if any of these rare but very serious side effects occur: muscle pain/tenderness/weakness, change in the amount of urine.
This drug may infrequently cause seizures. Seek immediate medical attention if you experience a seizure. If you have a seizure while taking bupropion, you should not take this drug again.
A very serious allergic reaction to this drug is unlikely, but seek immediate medical attention if it occurs. Symptoms of a serious allergic reaction include: rash, itching/swelling (especially of the face/tongue/throat), severe dizziness, trouble breathing."

http://www.webmd.com...

And that is isn't even all the possible side effects!!!! Yeah okay, let's just give someone psch meds just because they may be experiencing some common states of depression...
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7/19/2014 8:15:45 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/19/2014 8:13:13 AM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:49:37 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:36:25 AM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/18/2014 12:29:39 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

It's different for everybody. Some people lie around and just do nothing. Others become irritated easily. If you sense you might suffer from it, you should see a professional.

Just for the psychiatrists to use you as a lab rat...

No some people actually have a chemical imbalance that is easily fixed. There is no point in living through that if an easy fix is available.

My fiance takes Wellbutrin, which is a miracle drug.

Some people are thought to have a chemical imbalance, but are actually normal and given these drugs just to make them abnormal and out of order... By the way... lets look at something real quick, Did you know these psychiatric drugs are no different from street drugs?

By this standard, then everyone should be able to take street drugs correct?

Also, lets look at all the side effects of this specific psychiatric medication..

"Nausea, vomiting, dry mouth, headache, constipation, increased sweating, joint aches, sore throat, blurred vision, strange taste in the mouth, or dizziness may occur. If any of these effects persist or worsen, notify your doctor or pharmacist promptly.
Remember that your doctor has prescribed this medication because he or she has judged that the benefit to you is greater than the risk of side effects. Many people using this medication do not have serious side effects.
Tell your doctor immediately if any of these unlikely but serious side effects occur: chest pain, fainting, fast/pounding/irregular heartbeat, hearing problems, ringing in the ears, severe headache, mental/mood changes (e.g., agitation, anxiety, confusion, hallucinations, memory loss), uncontrolled movements (tremor), unusual weight loss or gain.
Tell your doctor immediately if any of these rare but very serious side effects occur: muscle pain/tenderness/weakness, change in the amount of urine.
This drug may infrequently cause seizures. Seek immediate medical attention if you experience a seizure. If you have a seizure while taking bupropion, you should not take this drug again.
A very serious allergic reaction to this drug is unlikely, but seek immediate medical attention if it occurs. Symptoms of a serious allergic reaction include: rash, itching/swelling (especially of the face/tongue/throat), severe dizziness, trouble breathing."

http://www.webmd.com...

And that is isn't even all the possible side effects!!!! Yeah okay, let's just give someone psch meds just because they may be experiencing some common states of depression...

You seem like you got some really interesting insight. I'll continue this later.
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7/19/2014 8:20:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/19/2014 8:15:45 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/19/2014 8:13:13 AM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:49:37 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:36:25 AM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/18/2014 12:29:39 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

It's different for everybody. Some people lie around and just do nothing. Others become irritated easily. If you sense you might suffer from it, you should see a professional.

Just for the psychiatrists to use you as a lab rat...

No some people actually have a chemical imbalance that is easily fixed. There is no point in living through that if an easy fix is available.

My fiance takes Wellbutrin, which is a miracle drug.

Some people are thought to have a chemical imbalance, but are actually normal and given these drugs just to make them abnormal and out of order... By the way... lets look at something real quick, Did you know these psychiatric drugs are no different from street drugs?

By this standard, then everyone should be able to take street drugs correct?

Also, lets look at all the side effects of this specific psychiatric medication..

"Nausea, vomiting, dry mouth, headache, constipation, increased sweating, joint aches, sore throat, blurred vision, strange taste in the mouth, or dizziness may occur. If any of these effects persist or worsen, notify your doctor or pharmacist promptly.
Remember that your doctor has prescribed this medication because he or she has judged that the benefit to you is greater than the risk of side effects. Many people using this medication do not have serious side effects.
Tell your doctor immediately if any of these unlikely but serious side effects occur: chest pain, fainting, fast/pounding/irregular heartbeat, hearing problems, ringing in the ears, severe headache, mental/mood changes (e.g., agitation, anxiety, confusion, hallucinations, memory loss), uncontrolled movements (tremor), unusual weight loss or gain.
Tell your doctor immediately if any of these rare but very serious side effects occur: muscle pain/tenderness/weakness, change in the amount of urine.
This drug may infrequently cause seizures. Seek immediate medical attention if you experience a seizure. If you have a seizure while taking bupropion, you should not take this drug again.
A very serious allergic reaction to this drug is unlikely, but seek immediate medical attention if it occurs. Symptoms of a serious allergic reaction include: rash, itching/swelling (especially of the face/tongue/throat), severe dizziness, trouble breathing."

http://www.webmd.com...

And that is isn't even all the possible side effects!!!! Yeah okay, let's just give someone psych meds just because they may be experiencing some common states of depression...

You seem like you got some really interesting insight. I'll continue this later.

Sounds good.. can't wait to continue the conversation.
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7/19/2014 10:25:44 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/18/2014 9:00:31 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 7/18/2014 1:24:13 PM, nikidavis wrote:
You are so sad and hopeless that it is painful to get through the next minute without breaking down, so that you can't even fathom getting through the next hour, or even the next day without a suicide attempt.

1-800-273-8255

Please call if you need to talk to someone...

Thank you for your kindness, but I am currently not in a depressed and suicidal state. I have recovered from depression and am grateful for life right now.
One day I saw a man walking down the street, and he walked up to me and said, "Did you know that humans are the only species who tear down trees to make paper, and then write 'save the trees!' on them." I was amazed, then everyone else looked at him and glared with annoyance. I was the only one that actually cared, about the trees, about the man, about the world.
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7/19/2014 7:08:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I've seen it described like this and kinda like this explanation of depression:

"for most people, their minds work somewhat like this:
25% positive, optimistic thoughts
50% rational, neutral thoughts
25% pessimistic, negative thoughts

For those with depression, the percentages are more like 25%, 25%, and 50%, respectively."

I don't know if those percentages are really accurate, but I don't think that's the point. The point is that it emphasizes that those with depression can still be happy sometimes. It doesn't necessarily scoop out your brain and replace it all with sadness. It just makes life that much harder by biasing you toward having more of the unhappiness that everyone experiences from time to time. Everyone has their off days. Depression is like a few weeks, months, or years of those off days that even the healthiest of people has from time to time.
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7/19/2014 7:09:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/17/2014 9:16:34 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

That feeling when a terrible tv show comes on, but you're too lazy to change the channel, so you just give up and watch it anyway. But you feel like that all the time.

Exactly! Everyone knows what depression is like. It's just that for some, it lasts too long to be a normal part of having a human brain.
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7/19/2014 7:15:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/19/2014 7:36:25 AM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/18/2014 12:29:39 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

It's different for everybody. Some people lie around and just do nothing. Others become irritated easily. If you sense you might suffer from it, you should see a professional.

Just for the psychiatrists to use you as a lab rat...

Yeah, psychiatry is a bit of a mess. Not going to disagree with that one, even though I am seeing a psychiatrist. I think it would work a lot better if we were to develop a lab test to determine if people had a chemical imbalance that would be helped by the drugs that psychiatrists provide. Then those with chemical imbalances could be helped by the psychiatrists and those with messed-up thought patterns or stressful lives could be referred to psychologists. That's the trouble with this bit of the healthcare field, it's pretty much impossible to tell who should be seeing whom until you've been mucking around with treatments for a while, and by that point, a lot of patients are fed up with the whole thing. This is why I suggest that people see a professional of some sort. Maybe it won't help and they'll just be where they started off, but if they're patient or their professional gets it right fairly quickly, then life will be better for them.
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7/19/2014 7:19:52 PM
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having no purpose in life, out of that everything becomes meaningless... solution is always keep mind of activity... doing something is better for not doing, and its very easy just take all things in the good way and thats it, you dont need to be a millionaire for that, you take the negative side (which stupids do) or take the positive side, and im not takling about imbalaces chemicals and stuff its another issue... its about your thinking of the outer world.
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7/19/2014 7:23:55 PM
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At 7/19/2014 7:37:55 AM, Haroush wrote:
Everyone suffers from depression on way or another... If someone claims they don't, that is a load of crap in their pants...

I'm sorry but they really don't. To say all 7 billion people in the world suffer from depression is massively incorrect and a bit of an insult to legitimate depressives.
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7/19/2014 8:55:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/19/2014 7:23:55 PM, Zylorarchy wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:37:55 AM, Haroush wrote:
Everyone suffers from depression on way or another... If someone claims they don't, that is a load of crap in their pants...

I'm sorry but they really don't. To say all 7 billion people in the world suffer from depression is massively incorrect and a bit of an insult to legitimate depressives.

Yes, everyone suffers with depression. Specifically minor depression. Moderate and manic depression not everyone deals with..
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7/19/2014 9:06:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/19/2014 7:15:09 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:36:25 AM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/18/2014 12:29:39 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

It's different for everybody. Some people lie around and just do nothing. Others become irritated easily. If you sense you might suffer from it, you should see a professional.

Just for the psychiatrists to use you as a lab rat...

Yeah, psychiatry is a bit of a mess. Not going to disagree with that one, even though I am seeing a psychiatrist. I think it would work a lot better if we were to develop a lab test to determine if people had a chemical imbalance that would be helped by the drugs that psychiatrists provide. Then those with chemical imbalances could be helped by the psychiatrists and those with messed-up thought patterns or stressful lives could be referred to psychologists. That's the trouble with this bit of the healthcare field, it's pretty much impossible to tell who should be seeing whom until you've been mucking around with treatments for a while, and by that point, a lot of patients are fed up with the whole thing.

This is why I suggest that people see a professional of some sort. Maybe it won't help and they'll just be where they started off, but if they're patient or their professional gets it right fairly quickly, then life will be better for them.

Don't get me wrong.. I am not advocating someone suffering from major psychiatric problems not seek a professional, but preferably a psychologist and more specifically, cognitive behavioral therapy when it comes to the type of therapy.

Lastly, many psychiatric problems can be fixed by a long term change in your diet, plus temporary natural fixes for sleep and anxiety. Not to mention, depression.

Believe it or not there is a natural resource you can use for depression.. So, get your pen and paper and right this down, it is called 5-HTP.

If you have any questions when it comes to natural remedies, just ask.. I'll give you answers.
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7/19/2014 9:08:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/19/2014 9:06:43 PM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:15:09 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:36:25 AM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/18/2014 12:29:39 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 7/17/2014 8:59:33 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
How would you describe/define it?

It's different for everybody. Some people lie around and just do nothing. Others become irritated easily. If you sense you might suffer from it, you should see a professional.

Just for the psychiatrists to use you as a lab rat...

Yeah, psychiatry is a bit of a mess. Not going to disagree with that one, even though I am seeing a psychiatrist. I think it would work a lot better if we were to develop a lab test to determine if people had a chemical imbalance that would be helped by the drugs that psychiatrists provide. Then those with chemical imbalances could be helped by the psychiatrists and those with messed-up thought patterns or stressful lives could be referred to psychologists. That's the trouble with this bit of the healthcare field, it's pretty much impossible to tell who should be seeing whom until you've been mucking around with treatments for a while, and by that point, a lot of patients are fed up with the whole thing.

This is why I suggest that people see a professional of some sort. Maybe it won't help and they'll just be where they started off, but if they're patient or their professional gets it right fairly quickly, then life will be better for them.


Don't get me wrong.. I am not advocating someone suffering from major psychiatric problems not seek a professional, but preferably a psychologist and more specifically, cognitive behavioral therapy when it comes to the type of therapy.

Lastly, many psychiatric problems can be fixed by a long term change in your diet, plus temporary natural fixes for sleep and anxiety. Not to mention, depression.

Believe it or not there is a natural resource you can use for depression.. So, get your pen and paper and right this down, it is called 5-HTP.

If you have any questions when it comes to natural remedies, just ask.. I'll give you answers.
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7/20/2014 9:23:06 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/19/2014 9:06:43 PM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:15:09 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
This is why I suggest that people see a professional of some sort. Maybe it won't help and they'll just be where they started off, but if they're patient or their professional gets it right fairly quickly, then life will be better for them.

Don't get me wrong.. I am not advocating someone suffering from major psychiatric problems not seek a professional, but preferably a psychologist and more specifically, cognitive behavioral therapy when it comes to the type of therapy.

You're right that a psychologist is a great place to start. Many/most people can be helped by talking and CBT alone, and anyway, I notice psychologists are generally better at figuring out what's wrong. If the psychologist thinks meds would be a good addition to the help you're getting from them, they will often suggest a few psychiatrists. It's generally a good idea to see one then, even if only to talk about other (more "natural") options than psychiatric medication. Unless you're stuck in a psychiatric ward of a hospital, I highly doubt anyone is going to force you to take anything.

Lastly, many psychiatric problems can be fixed by a long term change in your diet, plus temporary natural fixes for sleep and anxiety. Not to mention, depression.

This is true, for some, that is extremely helpful. One of the first things my professionals told me is that alcohol is unhelpful and I should be very responsible when I choose to drink it. Not everything can be fixed by being healthier, but it never really hurts anyone.

Believe it or not there is a natural resource you can use for depression.. So, get your pen and paper and right this down, it is called 5-HTP.

If you have any questions when it comes to natural remedies, just ask.. I'll give you answers.

I really like how medications come with this paper on side effects, mechanisms of action (when that's known), how effective it is compared to a placebo, what other drugs it could interact with, etc. Is there anything like that for 5-HTP that I could read? I don't know if it's right for me anyway (I'm bipolar and it's dangerous to treat that with antidepressants), but maybe it could help someone else I know one day.
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7/20/2014 4:01:48 PM
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At 7/19/2014 8:55:37 PM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:23:55 PM, Zylorarchy wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:37:55 AM, Haroush wrote:
Everyone suffers from depression on way or another... If someone claims they don't, that is a load of crap in their pants...

I'm sorry but they really don't. To say all 7 billion people in the world suffer from depression is massively incorrect and a bit of an insult to legitimate depressives.

Yes, everyone suffers with depression. Specifically minor depression. Moderate and manic depression not everyone deals with..

I am sorry, but that is simply not true, nor can you prove it.
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7/20/2014 5:05:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/20/2014 4:01:48 PM, Zylorarchy wrote:
At 7/19/2014 8:55:37 PM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:23:55 PM, Zylorarchy wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:37:55 AM, Haroush wrote:
Everyone suffers from depression on way or another... If someone claims they don't, that is a load of crap in their pants...

I'm sorry but they really don't. To say all 7 billion people in the world suffer from depression is massively incorrect and a bit of an insult to legitimate depressives.

Yes, everyone suffers with depression. Specifically minor depression. Moderate and manic depression not everyone deals with..

I am sorry, but that is simply not true, nor can you prove it.

Sure I can.. ever had to deal with the death of a loved one and mourned their death for more than a week?
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7/20/2014 5:08:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/20/2014 5:05:35 PM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/20/2014 4:01:48 PM, Zylorarchy wrote:
At 7/19/2014 8:55:37 PM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:23:55 PM, Zylorarchy wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:37:55 AM, Haroush wrote:
Everyone suffers from depression on way or another... If someone claims they don't, that is a load of crap in their pants...

I'm sorry but they really don't. To say all 7 billion people in the world suffer from depression is massively incorrect and a bit of an insult to legitimate depressives.

Yes, everyone suffers with depression. Specifically minor depression. Moderate and manic depression not everyone deals with..

I am sorry, but that is simply not true, nor can you prove it.

Sure I can.. ever had to deal with the death of a loved one and mourned their death for more than a week?

Grief and depression are two different things. Although grief can indeed, turn into depression, it often does not. Depression is not purely being sad and mourning the death of a loved one is not a characteristic of depression. And yes, I have lost loved ones.
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7/20/2014 5:11:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 7/20/2014 9:23:06 AM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 7/19/2014 9:06:43 PM, Haroush wrote:
At 7/19/2014 7:15:09 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
This is why I suggest that people see a professional of some sort. Maybe it won't help and they'll just be where they started off, but if they're patient or their professional gets it right fairly quickly, then life will be better for them.

Don't get me wrong.. I am not advocating someone suffering from major psychiatric problems not seek a professional, but preferably a psychologist and more specifically, cognitive behavioral therapy when it comes to the type of therapy.

You're right that a psychologist is a great place to start. Many/most people can be helped by talking and CBT alone, and anyway, I notice psychologists are generally better at figuring out what's wrong. If the psychologist thinks meds would be a good addition to the help you're getting from them, they will often suggest a few psychiatrists. It's generally a good idea to see one then, even if only to talk about other (more "natural") options than psychiatric medication. Unless you're stuck in a psychiatric ward of a hospital, I highly doubt anyone is going to force you to take anything.

Lastly, many psychiatric problems can be fixed by a long term change in your diet, plus temporary natural fixes for sleep and anxiety. Not to mention, depression.

This is true, for some, that is extremely helpful. One of the first things my professionals told me is that alcohol is unhelpful and I should be very responsible when I choose to drink it. Not everything can be fixed by being healthier, but it never really hurts anyone.

Believe it or not there is a natural resource you can use for depression.. So, get your pen and paper and right this down, it is called 5-HTP.

If you have any questions when it comes to natural remedies, just ask.. I'll give you answers.

I really like how medications come with this paper on side effects, mechanisms of action (when that's known), how effective it is compared to a placebo, what other drugs it could interact with, etc. Is there anything like that for 5-HTP that I could read? I don't know if it's right for me anyway (I'm bipolar and it's dangerous to treat that with antidepressants), but maybe it could help someone else I know one day.

If I am not mistaken, on the bottle at walmart it tells you possible side effects, but either way, you would want to A.) Ask your doctor if it is okay to take this in conjunction with that or B.) Do research yourself on if it is okay to take these two medications together.

By the way, 5-HTP is something your brain naturally creates, kind of like our liver naturally creates creatine from meat or fish..