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3/23/2015 9:49:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I have a brother around 3 years younger than me. We look strikingly similar and have been raise in the same house yet he is almost my polar opposite. While my wall is filled with my achievements, he has none (aside from perfect attendance of which means jacksh*t) and fails most of his classes. He has also rejected every attempt I've made to get him in shape or train him to defend himself. Instead, he spends all his time playing on his Xbox. Quite simply put, he is the weaker sibling. Even my little sister is stronger than him and takes to protecting him.

A few days ago, I was walking to pick up my brother and got some Ice Cream.. delicious Ice Cream. Then some @ss knocked it out of my hand and asked "what are you doing here f@ggot?" Upon saying a prayer for my Ice Cream and acknowledging it was going to be one of those days, I asked him how much he enjoyed having his teeth. When he asked "What did you say?", I punched him in the face and left to get some more Ice Cream.

Skip forward a bit and I get to my brothers school.

He claimed to be sick but I had noticed a few kids picking on him earlier. Lo and behold, it was the @ss from earlier still with a fresh bruise on his chin (remember kids, speed kills). I asked him why he was letting such filth do that and he just asked to go home. After considering how many of them I could fit in a reasonably sized car's trunk, I agreed. When we got home, me and my parents yelled between each other. They wish to move him to private classes and I said letting such filth win was beneath us. I demanded we march down to that school and demand action be taken or demand legal action. We are currently still debating it but I fear my parents will b***h out.

So how do you think my hopeless brother can be helped.
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3/23/2015 9:55:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
In hindsight, this has been a violent week for me.
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3/23/2015 10:03:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/23/2015 9:55:37 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
In hindsight, this has been a violent week for me.

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3/23/2015 10:54:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/23/2015 9:49:12 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
I have a brother around 3 years younger than me. We look strikingly similar and have been raise in the same house yet he is almost my polar opposite. While my wall is filled with my achievements, he has none (aside from perfect attendance of which means jacksh*t) and fails most of his classes. He has also rejected every attempt I've made to get him in shape or train him to defend himself. Instead, he spends all his time playing on his Xbox. Quite simply put, he is the weaker sibling. Even my little sister is stronger than him and takes to protecting him.

A few days ago, I was walking to pick up my brother and got some Ice Cream.. delicious Ice Cream. Then some @ss knocked it out of my hand and asked "what are you doing here f@ggot?" Upon saying a prayer for my Ice Cream and acknowledging it was going to be one of those days, I asked him how much he enjoyed having his teeth. When he asked "What did you say?", I punched him in the face and left to get some more Ice Cream.

Skip forward a bit and I get to my brothers school.

He claimed to be sick but I had noticed a few kids picking on him earlier. Lo and behold, it was the @ss from earlier still with a fresh bruise on his chin (remember kids, speed kills). I asked him why he was letting such filth do that and he just asked to go home. After considering how many of them I could fit in a reasonably sized car's trunk, I agreed. When we got home, me and my parents yelled between each other. They wish to move him to private classes and I said letting such filth win was beneath us. I demanded we march down to that school and demand action be taken or demand legal action. We are currently still debating it but I fear my parents will b***h out.

So how do you think my hopeless brother can be helped.

Prehaps a trading places or you could toughen him up a bit?
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3/23/2015 10:57:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/23/2015 9:49:12 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
I have a brother around 3 years younger than me. We look strikingly similar and have been raise in the same house yet he is almost my polar opposite. While my wall is filled with my achievements, he has none (aside from perfect attendance of which means jacksh*t) and fails most of his classes. He has also rejected every attempt I've made to get him in shape or train him to defend himself. Instead, he spends all his time playing on his Xbox. Quite simply put, he is the weaker sibling. Even my little sister is stronger than him and takes to protecting him.

A few days ago, I was walking to pick up my brother and got some Ice Cream.. delicious Ice Cream. Then some @ss knocked it out of my hand and asked "what are you doing here f@ggot?" Upon saying a prayer for my Ice Cream and acknowledging it was going to be one of those days, I asked him how much he enjoyed having his teeth. When he asked "What did you say?", I punched him in the face and left to get some more Ice Cream.

Skip forward a bit and I get to my brothers school.

He claimed to be sick but I had noticed a few kids picking on him earlier. Lo and behold, it was the @ss from earlier still with a fresh bruise on his chin (remember kids, speed kills). I asked him why he was letting such filth do that and he just asked to go home. After considering how many of them I could fit in a reasonably sized car's trunk, I agreed. When we got home, me and my parents yelled between each other. They wish to move him to private classes and I said letting such filth win was beneath us. I demanded we march down to that school and demand action be taken or demand legal action. We are currently still debating it but I fear my parents will b***h out.

So how do you think my hopeless brother can be helped.

You can't force change onto someone. If he wanted to change, toughen up, be more like you etc, he would have made an effort by now. Honestly, he has to sink or swim on his own.
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3/23/2015 11:08:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/23/2015 9:49:12 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
I have a brother around 3 years younger than me. We look strikingly similar and have been raise in the same house yet he is almost my polar opposite. While my wall is filled with my achievements, he has none (aside from perfect attendance of which means jacksh*t) and fails most of his classes. He has also rejected every attempt I've made to get him in shape or train him to defend himself. Instead, he spends all his time playing on his Xbox. Quite simply put, he is the weaker sibling. Even my little sister is stronger than him and takes to protecting him.

A few days ago, I was walking to pick up my brother and got some Ice Cream.. delicious Ice Cream. Then some @ss knocked it out of my hand and asked "what are you doing here f@ggot?" Upon saying a prayer for my Ice Cream and acknowledging it was going to be one of those days, I asked him how much he enjoyed having his teeth. When he asked "What did you say?", I punched him in the face and left to get some more Ice Cream.

Skip forward a bit and I get to my brothers school.

He claimed to be sick but I had noticed a few kids picking on him earlier. Lo and behold, it was the @ss from earlier still with a fresh bruise on his chin (remember kids, speed kills). I asked him why he was letting such filth do that and he just asked to go home. After considering how many of them I could fit in a reasonably sized car's trunk, I agreed. When we got home, me and my parents yelled between each other. They wish to move him to private classes and I said letting such filth win was beneath us. I demanded we march down to that school and demand action be taken or demand legal action. We are currently still debating it but I fear my parents will b***h out.

So how do you think my hopeless brother can be helped.

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3/23/2015 11:23:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/23/2015 9:49:12 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
I have a brother around 3 years younger than me. We look strikingly similar and have been raise in the same house yet he is almost my polar opposite. While my wall is filled with my achievements, he has none (aside from perfect attendance of which means jacksh*t) and fails most of his classes. He has also rejected every attempt I've made to get him in shape or train him to defend himself. Instead, he spends all his time playing on his Xbox. Quite simply put, he is the weaker sibling. Even my little sister is stronger than him and takes to protecting him.

A few days ago, I was walking to pick up my brother and got some Ice Cream.. delicious Ice Cream. Then some @ss knocked it out of my hand and asked "what are you doing here f@ggot?" Upon saying a prayer for my Ice Cream and acknowledging it was going to be one of those days, I asked him how much he enjoyed having his teeth. When he asked "What did you say?", I punched him in the face and left to get some more Ice Cream.

Skip forward a bit and I get to my brothers school.

He claimed to be sick but I had noticed a few kids picking on him earlier. Lo and behold, it was the @ss from earlier still with a fresh bruise on his chin (remember kids, speed kills). I asked him why he was letting such filth do that and he just asked to go home. After considering how many of them I could fit in a reasonably sized car's trunk, I agreed. When we got home, me and my parents yelled between each other. They wish to move him to private classes and I said letting such filth win was beneath us. I demanded we march down to that school and demand action be taken or demand legal action. We are currently still debating it but I fear my parents will b***h out.

So how do you think my hopeless brother can be helped.

You mentioned your achievements and his lack of them. Do you think he might wish to be out of your shadow?
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3/24/2015 12:16:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/23/2015 9:55:37 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
In hindsight, this has been a violent week for me.

Did you face any legal consequences?
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3/24/2015 7:07:48 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
What conservativepolitico said. Your parent's decision may be best. Keeping him in the situation will keep him in the victim role. It would be cool if he could just take a few months off school and you guys could spend a lot of time together, maybe hire a high priced call girl to pretend like he seduced her, and it will help his confidence a little. You just need to put him in some situations that are confidence boosters and a new environment may completely change his demeanor.
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3/24/2015 7:27:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/24/2015 12:16:11 AM, SamStevens wrote:
At 3/23/2015 9:55:37 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
In hindsight, this has been a violent week for me.

Did you face any legal consequences?

This kind of stuff never gets back to me.
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3/24/2015 7:28:16 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/23/2015 10:54:06 PM, Absentia wrote:
Prehaps a trading places or you could toughen him up a bit?

Yeah... I don't wanna switch places with my brother.
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3/24/2015 7:29:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/23/2015 10:57:19 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
You can't force change onto someone. If he wanted to change, toughen up, be more like you etc, he would have made an effort by now. Honestly, he has to sink or swim on his own.

Usually, I'd agree. But I see my brother's failures as my own failures as an Older sibling.
And since I despise failure of any sort, I'm more comfortable with pushing him until he fixes himself.
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3/24/2015 7:31:40 AM
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At 3/24/2015 7:07:48 AM, Wylted wrote:
What conservativepolitico said. Your parent's decision may be best. Keeping him in the situation will keep him in the victim role. It would be cool if he could just take a few months off school and you guys could spend a lot of time together, maybe hire a high priced call girl to pretend like he seduced her, and it will help his confidence a little. You just need to put him in some situations that are confidence boosters and a new environment may completely change his demeanor.

Are you implying I hire an underage prostitute?
I have no idea where I'd get such and him finding out I hired someone would probably make things worse.
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3/24/2015 9:36:23 AM
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At 3/23/2015 9:49:12 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
I have a brother around 3 years younger than me. We look strikingly similar and have been raise in the same house yet he is almost my polar opposite. While my wall is filled with my achievements, he has none (aside from perfect attendance of which means jacksh*t) and fails most of his classes. He has also rejected every attempt I've made to get him in shape or train him to defend himself. Instead, he spends all his time playing on his Xbox. Quite simply put, he is the weaker sibling. Even my little sister is stronger than him and takes to protecting him.

A few days ago, I was walking to pick up my brother and got some Ice Cream.. delicious Ice Cream. Then some @ss knocked it out of my hand and asked "what are you doing here f@ggot?" Upon saying a prayer for my Ice Cream and acknowledging it was going to be one of those days, I asked him how much he enjoyed having his teeth. When he asked "What did you say?", I punched him in the face and left to get some more Ice Cream.

Skip forward a bit and I get to my brothers school.

He claimed to be sick but I had noticed a few kids picking on him earlier. Lo and behold, it was the @ss from earlier still with a fresh bruise on his chin (remember kids, speed kills). I asked him why he was letting such filth do that and he just asked to go home. After considering how many of them I could fit in a reasonably sized car's trunk, I agreed. When we got home, me and my parents yelled between each other. They wish to move him to private classes and I said letting such filth win was beneath us. I demanded we march down to that school and demand action be taken or demand legal action. We are currently still debating it but I fear my parents will b***h out.

So how do you think my hopeless brother can be helped.

I remember being in a similar situation to your brother when I was in school. My older sister was a straight A student and successful in virtually every way while I was getting the crap beat out of me behind the school. My sister tried doing similar things you've been doing (helping me to better take care of myself) but I always rejected her help. Eventually she stopped trying to help me and started just hanging out with me, we spent a lot of time together just talking and doing fun sibling stuff. We didn't really talk about the problems I was having, just video games, pizza and other things. She never acted like she was better than me and every now and then asked for MY help with something. To me this was very surprising, "Why would my perfect sister need help from a loser like me?", it really boosted my self-esteem (which turned out to be one of the major problems I was having) and pretty much closed the gap between us that had grown since childhood. So my advice would just be to treat your brother nicely, treat him like an equal and to ask for his help once in a while even if you don't need it. In short, make your brother feel important and needed. It helped me so it should at least have some sort of positive effect on your brother. But whatever you do, DON'T BABY HIM! He will hate that, be more subtle or this plan could end disastrously.
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3/24/2015 9:50:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/24/2015 7:31:40 AM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 3/24/2015 7:07:48 AM, Wylted wrote:
What conservativepolitico said. Your parent's decision may be best. Keeping him in the situation will keep him in the victim role. It would be cool if he could just take a few months off school and you guys could spend a lot of time together, maybe hire a high priced call girl to pretend like he seduced her, and it will help his confidence a little. You just need to put him in some situations that are confidence boosters and a new environment may completely change his demeanor.

Are you implying I hire an underage prostitute?
I have no idea where I'd get such and him finding out I hired someone would probably make things worse.

How mad could you get? As long as he doesn't do something dumb like fall in love with her. I got to tell you, my brother is a huge pvssy and I practically raised him. People just are who they are. Not much you can do.
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3/24/2015 10:14:52 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/24/2015 7:29:43 AM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
At 3/23/2015 10:57:19 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
You can't force change onto someone. If he wanted to change, toughen up, be more like you etc, he would have made an effort by now. Honestly, he has to sink or swim on his own.

Usually, I'd agree. But I see my brother's failures as my own failures as an Older sibling.
And since I despise failure of any sort, I'm more comfortable with pushing him until he fixes himself.

Way to be controlling m8.
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3/24/2015 10:25:54 AM
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You can't force change onto someone. If he wanted to change, toughen up, be more like you etc, he would have made an effort by now. Honestly, he has to sink or swim on his own.

I agree with that.

You may think pushing your younger brother is helping him, but he'll grow dependant (if he isn't already) on your support, which may weaken him further.
There's a difference between a helping hand, and a smothering grip.

Perhaps you should try and lay off the forcefulness and rely more on advising and being a good role model. He'll follow you much better by choice, than by lack of choice.
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3/24/2015 10:34:44 AM
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Hmm... I'll attempt taking a step back force wise.
Here's hoping he helps himself.
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3/24/2015 10:36:28 AM
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At 3/24/2015 10:34:44 AM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
Hmm... I'll attempt taking a step back force wise.
Here's hoping he helps himself.

It doesn't mean abandoning him, however.
He should be aware that help if there for him when he needs it.

Hope the advice helped!
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3/24/2015 5:33:24 PM
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At 3/23/2015 9:49:12 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:
I have a brother around 3 years younger than me. We look strikingly similar and have been raise in the same house yet he is almost my polar opposite. While my wall is filled with my achievements, he has none (aside from perfect attendance of which means jacksh*t) and fails most of his classes. He has also rejected every attempt I've made to get him in shape or train him to defend himself. Instead, he spends all his time playing on his Xbox. Quite simply put, he is the weaker sibling. Even my little sister is stronger than him and takes to protecting him.

A few days ago, I was walking to pick up my brother and got some Ice Cream.. delicious Ice Cream. Then some @ss knocked it out of my hand and asked "what are you doing here f@ggot?" Upon saying a prayer for my Ice Cream and acknowledging it was going to be one of those days, I asked him how much he enjoyed having his teeth. When he asked "What did you say?", I punched him in the face and left to get some more Ice Cream.

Skip forward a bit and I get to my brothers school.

He claimed to be sick but I had noticed a few kids picking on him earlier. Lo and behold, it was the @ss from earlier still with a fresh bruise on his chin (remember kids, speed kills). I asked him why he was letting such filth do that and he just asked to go home. After considering how many of them I could fit in a reasonably sized car's trunk, I agreed. When we got home, me and my parents yelled between each other. They wish to move him to private classes and I said letting such filth win was beneath us. I demanded we march down to that school and demand action be taken or demand legal action. We are currently still debating it but I fear my parents will b***h out.

So how do you think my hopeless brother can be helped.

Beat the s**t out the guy who messed with him.
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3/29/2015 12:45:05 PM
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I actually found a little video that reminded me of my bother and I.
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3/29/2015 5:08:14 PM
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At 3/23/2015 9:49:12 PM, YamaVonKarma wrote:

So how do you think my hopeless brother can be helped.

If you think he is hopeless, why bother helping?

Yama, if I am honest, your whole attitude towards the situation is problematic. Unwillingness to engage in physical violence, or preferring to play Xbox than to learn how to fight, doesn't make someone weak or hopeless or inferior. That they are different from you in ways you find worthy of derision does not mean that they are actually worthy of derision.

In other words, stop being a jerk about it.
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