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Truth_seeker
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4/7/2015 10:27:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
When i was 13, i almost joined Islamic terrorists (guess that counts as a gang?). How could i think of such a thing? It started when i was fed propaganda (Guantanamo bay, American corruption, etc.) I saw the "evils" of this country and i hated America. I was naive because they promised me devotion to God, brotherhood, and justice. Everything they taught appealed to me. I was willing to shoot people, spy, be a suicide bomber, whatever cuz i wanted to see America destroyed. I almost worked as a sleeper agent and did horrible things to show my devotion to Islam. I knew i'd get executed for treason but i didn't care. What changed? I looked in the mirror 1 day and it was like i was staring in the face of death. I saw an executioner with no regard for any life (kids, men, women, etc.) and i was terrified. I realized their cause was pure evil and that the only way to change the world was through Jesus' love. It brought me closer to God.

What about you? Reason for this post is to create an environment where it's "safe" to talk about very disturbing memories.
Wylted
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4/7/2015 11:38:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I've been around a few gangs, but would never join one. Had a bunch of friends in Folk Nation and a local small gang that just had a handful of members.

I don't really understand the appeal. What's the point? Even if you wanted to be a Jihadist, a small cell of just a couple of members or with a single member is more dangerous than being a small cell officially recognized by the core of the group, which has almost assuredly been infiltrated by spies.
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4/8/2015 10:08:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/7/2015 11:38:29 AM, Wylted wrote:
I've been around a few gangs, but would never join one. Had a bunch of friends in Folk Nation and a local small gang that just had a handful of members.

I don't really understand the appeal. What's the point? Even if you wanted to be a Jihadist, a small cell of just a couple of members or with a single member is more dangerous than being a small cell officially recognized by the core of the group, which has almost assuredly been infiltrated by spies.

Umm mind sharing?

Well that wasn't the point of the post, but ok..I said i was looking for brotherhood not working alone...
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4/8/2015 2:46:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/8/2015 10:08:49 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/7/2015 11:38:29 AM, Wylted wrote:
I've been around a few gangs, but would never join one. Had a bunch of friends in Folk Nation and a local small gang that just had a handful of members.

I don't really understand the appeal. What's the point? Even if you wanted to be a Jihadist, a small cell of just a couple of members or with a single member is more dangerous than being a small cell officially recognized by the core of the group, which has almost assuredly been infiltrated by spies.

Umm mind sharing?

Well that wasn't the point of the post, but ok..I said i was looking for brotherhood not working alone...

The brotherhood part never even crossed my mind, I just always think of results.

Do I mind sharing what? The infiltration of these terrorist groups by CIA?

Yeah the CIA has assets in most of them or have infiltrated them directly and special forces are often involved in creating them for short term usage, such as overthrow or destabilizing a government who won't play ball with us.
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4/13/2015 8:16:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/7/2015 10:27:43 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
When i was 13, i almost joined Islamic terrorists (guess that counts as a gang?). How could i think of such a thing? It started when i was fed propaganda (Guantanamo bay, American corruption, etc.) I saw the "evils" of this country and i hated America. I was naive because they promised me devotion to God, brotherhood, and justice. Everything they taught appealed to me. I was willing to shoot people, spy, be a suicide bomber, whatever cuz i wanted to see America destroyed. I almost worked as a sleeper agent and did horrible things to show my devotion to Islam. I knew i'd get executed for treason but i didn't care. What changed? I looked in the mirror 1 day and it was like i was staring in the face of death. I saw an executioner with no regard for any life (kids, men, women, etc.) and i was terrified. I realized their cause was pure evil and that the only way to change the world was through Jesus' love. It brought me closer to God.

What about you? Reason for this post is to create an environment where it's "safe" to talk about very disturbing memories.

Okay, dude...I'm beginning to think that you're making this stuff up.
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4/14/2015 8:50:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/7/2015 10:27:43 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
When i was 13, i almost joined Islamic terrorists (guess that counts as a gang?). How could i think of such a thing? It started when i was fed propaganda (Guantanamo bay, American corruption, etc.) I saw the "evils" of this country and i hated America. I was naive because they promised me devotion to God, brotherhood, and justice. Everything they taught appealed to me. I was willing to shoot people, spy, be a suicide bomber, whatever cuz i wanted to see America destroyed. I almost worked as a sleeper agent and did horrible things to show my devotion to Islam. I knew i'd get executed for treason but i didn't care. What changed? I looked in the mirror 1 day and it was like i was staring in the face of death. I saw an executioner with no regard for any life (kids, men, women, etc.) and i was terrified. I realized their cause was pure evil and that the only way to change the world was through Jesus' love. It brought me closer to God.

What about you? Reason for this post is to create an environment where it's "safe" to talk about very disturbing memories.

I belong to a group, but there are no meetings, just a simply realization.

Life is but a joke ( a cruel one at that)
There must be some way out of here
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4/14/2015 12:01:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/13/2015 8:16:44 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/7/2015 10:27:43 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
When i was 13, i almost joined Islamic terrorists (guess that counts as a gang?). How could i think of such a thing? It started when i was fed propaganda (Guantanamo bay, American corruption, etc.) I saw the "evils" of this country and i hated America. I was naive because they promised me devotion to God, brotherhood, and justice. Everything they taught appealed to me. I was willing to shoot people, spy, be a suicide bomber, whatever cuz i wanted to see America destroyed. I almost worked as a sleeper agent and did horrible things to show my devotion to Islam. I knew i'd get executed for treason but i didn't care. What changed? I looked in the mirror 1 day and it was like i was staring in the face of death. I saw an executioner with no regard for any life (kids, men, women, etc.) and i was terrified. I realized their cause was pure evil and that the only way to change the world was through Jesus' love. It brought me closer to God.

What about you? Reason for this post is to create an environment where it's "safe" to talk about very disturbing memories.

Okay, dude...I'm beginning to think that you're making this stuff up.

Believe what you want.
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4/14/2015 12:02:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/14/2015 8:50:40 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 4/7/2015 10:27:43 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
When i was 13, i almost joined Islamic terrorists (guess that counts as a gang?). How could i think of such a thing? It started when i was fed propaganda (Guantanamo bay, American corruption, etc.) I saw the "evils" of this country and i hated America. I was naive because they promised me devotion to God, brotherhood, and justice. Everything they taught appealed to me. I was willing to shoot people, spy, be a suicide bomber, whatever cuz i wanted to see America destroyed. I almost worked as a sleeper agent and did horrible things to show my devotion to Islam. I knew i'd get executed for treason but i didn't care. What changed? I looked in the mirror 1 day and it was like i was staring in the face of death. I saw an executioner with no regard for any life (kids, men, women, etc.) and i was terrified. I realized their cause was pure evil and that the only way to change the world was through Jesus' love. It brought me closer to God.

What about you? Reason for this post is to create an environment where it's "safe" to talk about very disturbing memories.

I belong to a group, but there are no meetings, just a simply realization.

Life is but a joke ( a cruel one at that)
There must be some way out of here

realization?