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4/21/2015 10:45:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I've always been interested in medieval combat than guns. I know how to sword-fight and i believe that it takes more courage to use a blade than to fire from a long range. I think you can still take down a gunman with a sword. Yea a gun travels faster than a sword but the one holding it isn't. There's psychological, physical, emotional, mental, and environmental factors determining whether or not he/she will slip up especially if the person puts too much confidence in a gun. I like to mess with people's heads sometimes lol.
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4/21/2015 11:21:03 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 11:12:30 AM, XLAV wrote:
I like muskets.

lol if you use 1, i'm pretty sure your going to miss your shot when i'm coming at you.
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4/21/2015 11:22:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 11:21:03 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 11:12:30 AM, XLAV wrote:
I like muskets.

lol if you use 1, i'm pretty sure your going to miss your shot when i'm coming at you.

But... I have a bayonet to poke you!
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4/21/2015 11:27:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 11:22:04 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/21/2015 11:21:03 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 11:12:30 AM, XLAV wrote:
I like muskets.

lol if you use 1, i'm pretty sure your going to miss your shot when i'm coming at you.

But... I have a bayonet to poke you!

lol by the time it even comes close to me, i'll already have it redirected elsewhere, counterattack, and slice your head clean off.
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4/21/2015 11:29:19 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 11:27:23 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 11:22:04 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/21/2015 11:21:03 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 11:12:30 AM, XLAV wrote:
I like muskets.

lol if you use 1, i'm pretty sure your going to miss your shot when i'm coming at you.

But... I have a bayonet to poke you!

lol by the time it even comes close to me, i'll already have it redirected elsewhere, counterattack, and slice your head clean off.

M8, I'll throw it like a spear, lol.
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4/21/2015 11:31:59 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 11:29:19 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/21/2015 11:27:23 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 11:22:04 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 4/21/2015 11:21:03 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 11:12:30 AM, XLAV wrote:
I like muskets.

lol if you use 1, i'm pretty sure your going to miss your shot when i'm coming at you.

But... I have a bayonet to poke you!

lol by the time it even comes close to me, i'll already have it redirected elsewhere, counterattack, and slice your head clean off.

M8, I'll throw it like a spear, lol.

LOL! I'll drop down to dodge it and run up on you then you'll really be screwed over!
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4/21/2015 1:29:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'd say guns are more interesting, actually.
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4/21/2015 1:43:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 10:45:00 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Depends on what I need it for
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4/21/2015 1:44:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 1:43:10 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 4/21/2015 10:45:00 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Depends on what I need it for

Anything like if your being invaded, play fighting, etc.
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4/21/2015 1:53:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 1:44:07 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 1:43:10 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 4/21/2015 10:45:00 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Depends on what I need it for

Anything like if your being invaded, play fighting, etc.

If I'm in danger, gun.

If I'm in danger, angry or the person is sounded, sword/knife- you can have more fun with those, especially if they're dull
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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4/21/2015 2:00:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 1:53:20 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 4/21/2015 1:44:07 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 1:43:10 PM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 4/21/2015 10:45:00 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Depends on what I need it for

Anything like if your being invaded, play fighting, etc.

If I'm in danger, gun.

If I'm in danger, angry or the person is sounded, sword/knife- you can have more fun with those, especially if they're dull

I like getting my hands dirty when it comes to fighting for sport and yes i feel it's more fun using a sword lol. It's really easy to chop someone apart limb from limb.
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4/21/2015 2:19:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 10:45:00 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Yea a gun travels faster than a sword but the one holding it isn't.
That made me lol

I think a trained gunman would more often than not be able to take down a swordsman. Simply because bullets are so fast.

I don't like guns, they take the skill out of battles. Kind of like bows. Swordplay is far more exciting and there's so much more to be gained by learning it.

We should just get rid of guns and replace them all with swords. We can keep the right to bear arms, have no more theater shootings, and crimes would be a lot more difficult to commit.
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4/21/2015 2:32:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 2:19:23 PM, Kozu wrote:
At 4/21/2015 10:45:00 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Yea a gun travels faster than a sword but the one holding it isn't.
That made me lol

I think a trained gunman would more often than not be able to take down a swordsman. Simply because bullets are so fast.

I don't like guns, they take the skill out of battles. Kind of like bows. Swordplay is far more exciting and there's so much more to be gained by learning it.

We should just get rid of guns and replace them all with swords. We can keep the right to bear arms, have no more theater shootings, and crimes would be a lot more difficult to commit.

lol well of course using swords isn't the only thing i'm going to learn. If someone breaks into my house and starts firing, i'm ducking for cover. I'll probably use projectiles like knives for a distraction then i'm running for safety lol. I'll try and slash him up a bit till he's badly wounded. I'd say it's pretty hard but it can be done. Just have to be smart about it.
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4/21/2015 3:51:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 2:32:35 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:

Definitely not impossible, but a one on one battle would probably have an anti-climatic ending.
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4/21/2015 4:20:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 3:51:38 PM, Kozu wrote:
At 4/21/2015 2:32:35 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:

Definitely not impossible, but a one on one battle would probably have an anti-climatic ending.

lol u have to be crazy fast and use the right tools. You must not let him/her fire the 1st shot so i'd throw projectiles and run in a zig zag motion at him. I'd try to block his line of sight with a shield or something and swiftly cut his fingers, hand, or arm off holding the gun then run the blade through him lol.
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4/21/2015 4:23:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
It actually is possible to dodge a bullet, though. In a one-on-one setting the swordsman, if skilled enough to utilize this trick, may stand a chance.
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4/21/2015 4:30:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 4:23:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
It actually is possible to dodge a bullet, though. In a one-on-one setting the swordsman, if skilled enough to utilize this trick, may stand a chance.

http://www.todayifoundout.com...

i wouldn't say dodge, more like evade lol. If he has no armor on whatsoever, he better watch out for the arrows coming his way.
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4/21/2015 4:33:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 4:23:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
It actually is possible to dodge a bullet, though. In a one-on-one setting the swordsman, if skilled enough to utilize this trick, may stand a chance.

The trick is simple. If you're smart enough to make the proper calculations quickly and precisely, you can determine based on where a gun is aimed what path the bullet would take if fired from that angle.
Provided that you were able to keep your body off this bullet path line, you're good.
Of course, you can't just keep constantly moving your body for every slight movement of the hand holding the gun. You'd tire quickly. So, along with predicting the bullet path, you'd need to watch the gunman's finger so that you can determine when he/she is about to fire. Keep your eye on both the bullet path and the finger on the trigger, so that you can dodge at the right time. Of course, once the gun is fired there is virtually no way for a human being to dodge. All dodging would have to happen before the bullet left the gun.
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4/21/2015 4:35:35 PM
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At 4/21/2015 4:33:17 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:23:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
It actually is possible to dodge a bullet, though. In a one-on-one setting the swordsman, if skilled enough to utilize this trick, may stand a chance.

The trick is simple. If you're smart enough to make the proper calculations quickly and precisely, you can determine based on where a gun is aimed what path the bullet would take if fired from that angle.
Provided that you were able to keep your body off this bullet path line, you're good.
Of course, you can't just keep constantly moving your body for every slight movement of the hand holding the gun. You'd tire quickly. So, along with predicting the bullet path, you'd need to watch the gunman's finger so that you can determine when he/she is about to fire. Keep your eye on both the bullet path and the finger on the trigger, so that you can dodge at the right time. Of course, once the gun is fired there is virtually no way for a human being to dodge. All dodging would have to happen before the bullet left the gun.

Also, if the gun is inaccurate to a high enough degree, predicting the path exactly is impossible.
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4/21/2015 4:37:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 4:30:18 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:23:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
It actually is possible to dodge a bullet, though. In a one-on-one setting the swordsman, if skilled enough to utilize this trick, may stand a chance.

http://www.todayifoundout.com...

i wouldn't say dodge, more like evade lol. If he has no armor on whatsoever, he better watch out for the arrows coming his way.

Focusing on readying an arrow, aiming, and staying out of the bullet path simultaneously is probably too much for a human, though. A sword requires comparatively less thinking.
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4/21/2015 4:43:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 4:37:16 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:30:18 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:23:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
It actually is possible to dodge a bullet, though. In a one-on-one setting the swordsman, if skilled enough to utilize this trick, may stand a chance.

http://www.todayifoundout.com...

i wouldn't say dodge, more like evade lol. If he has no armor on whatsoever, he better watch out for the arrows coming his way.

Focusing on readying an arrow, aiming, and staying out of the bullet path simultaneously is probably too much for a human, though. A sword requires comparatively less thinking.

Which Is why you have a shield pal, a guy who holds a shield in front of you while you are performing long range death.
I bet fanfics are already being posted on random blogs about us.-Vaarka

Butters preformed his duty to the town and died with honor, he helped us kill scum, so we know have to go and make sure his death wasn't in vain and win this game for him.-lannan13

All hail the great and mighty Butters, who died for our inactive cause.-Vaarka

fuckith offith, lol.-Ore(talking to me)

And guess what happened to FT? He got raped to death.-Xlav

You are so obviously town I love you man.-VOT
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4/21/2015 4:44:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 4:43:37 PM, ButterCatX wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:37:16 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:30:18 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:23:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
It actually is possible to dodge a bullet, though. In a one-on-one setting the swordsman, if skilled enough to utilize this trick, may stand a chance.

http://www.todayifoundout.com...

i wouldn't say dodge, more like evade lol. If he has no armor on whatsoever, he better watch out for the arrows coming his way.

Focusing on readying an arrow, aiming, and staying out of the bullet path simultaneously is probably too much for a human, though. A sword requires comparatively less thinking.

Which Is why you have a shield pal, a guy who holds a shield in front of you while you are performing long range death.

The guy with the shield would die then.
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4/21/2015 4:45:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 4:44:29 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:43:37 PM, ButterCatX wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:37:16 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:30:18 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:23:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
It actually is possible to dodge a bullet, though. In a one-on-one setting the swordsman, if skilled enough to utilize this trick, may stand a chance.

http://www.todayifoundout.com...

i wouldn't say dodge, more like evade lol. If he has no armor on whatsoever, he better watch out for the arrows coming his way.

Focusing on readying an arrow, aiming, and staying out of the bullet path simultaneously is probably too much for a human, though. A sword requires comparatively less thinking.

Which Is why you have a shield pal, a guy who holds a shield in front of you while you are performing long range death.

The guy with the shield would die then.

It's a five foot shield that you stand behind and your pal crouches behind.
I bet fanfics are already being posted on random blogs about us.-Vaarka

Butters preformed his duty to the town and died with honor, he helped us kill scum, so we know have to go and make sure his death wasn't in vain and win this game for him.-lannan13

All hail the great and mighty Butters, who died for our inactive cause.-Vaarka

fuckith offith, lol.-Ore(talking to me)

And guess what happened to FT? He got raped to death.-Xlav

You are so obviously town I love you man.-VOT
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4/21/2015 4:45:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 4:44:29 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:43:37 PM, ButterCatX wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:37:16 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:30:18 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:23:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
It actually is possible to dodge a bullet, though. In a one-on-one setting the swordsman, if skilled enough to utilize this trick, may stand a chance.

http://www.todayifoundout.com...

i wouldn't say dodge, more like evade lol. If he has no armor on whatsoever, he better watch out for the arrows coming his way.

Focusing on readying an arrow, aiming, and staying out of the bullet path simultaneously is probably too much for a human, though. A sword requires comparatively less thinking.

Which Is why you have a shield pal, a guy who holds a shield in front of you while you are performing long range death.

The guy with the shield would die then.

Also, he would block your vision/mobility.
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4/21/2015 4:47:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 4:45:38 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:44:29 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:43:37 PM, ButterCatX wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:37:16 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:30:18 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:23:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
It actually is possible to dodge a bullet, though. In a one-on-one setting the swordsman, if skilled enough to utilize this trick, may stand a chance.

http://www.todayifoundout.com...

i wouldn't say dodge, more like evade lol. If he has no armor on whatsoever, he better watch out for the arrows coming his way.

Focusing on readying an arrow, aiming, and staying out of the bullet path simultaneously is probably too much for a human, though. A sword requires comparatively less thinking.

Which Is why you have a shield pal, a guy who holds a shield in front of you while you are performing long range death.

The guy with the shield would die then.

Also, he would block your vision/mobility.

Its more common with crossbows, but the idea is that you load behind the shield then you stand and fire, then crouch again
I bet fanfics are already being posted on random blogs about us.-Vaarka

Butters preformed his duty to the town and died with honor, he helped us kill scum, so we know have to go and make sure his death wasn't in vain and win this game for him.-lannan13

All hail the great and mighty Butters, who died for our inactive cause.-Vaarka

fuckith offith, lol.-Ore(talking to me)

And guess what happened to FT? He got raped to death.-Xlav

You are so obviously town I love you man.-VOT
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4/21/2015 4:48:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 10:45:00 AM, Truth_seeker wrote:
I've always been interested in medieval combat than guns. I know how to sword-fight and i believe that it takes more courage to use a blade than to fire from a long range. I think you can still take down a gunman with a sword. Yea a gun travels faster than a sword but the one holding it isn't. There's psychological, physical, emotional, mental, and environmental factors determining whether or not he/she will slip up especially if the person puts too much confidence in a gun. I like to mess with people's heads sometimes lol.

Swordplay is a delicate dance of death, gun fights are gifs that last for ten seconds.
I bet fanfics are already being posted on random blogs about us.-Vaarka

Butters preformed his duty to the town and died with honor, he helped us kill scum, so we know have to go and make sure his death wasn't in vain and win this game for him.-lannan13

All hail the great and mighty Butters, who died for our inactive cause.-Vaarka

fuckith offith, lol.-Ore(talking to me)

And guess what happened to FT? He got raped to death.-Xlav

You are so obviously town I love you man.-VOT
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4/21/2015 4:48:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 4:47:05 PM, ButterCatX wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:45:38 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:44:29 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:43:37 PM, ButterCatX wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:37:16 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:30:18 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:23:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
It actually is possible to dodge a bullet, though. In a one-on-one setting the swordsman, if skilled enough to utilize this trick, may stand a chance.

http://www.todayifoundout.com...

i wouldn't say dodge, more like evade lol. If he has no armor on whatsoever, he better watch out for the arrows coming his way.

Focusing on readying an arrow, aiming, and staying out of the bullet path simultaneously is probably too much for a human, though. A sword requires comparatively less thinking.

Which Is why you have a shield pal, a guy who holds a shield in front of you while you are performing long range death.

The guy with the shield would die then.

Also, he would block your vision/mobility.

Its more common with crossbows, but the idea is that you load behind the shield then you stand and fire, then crouch again

The bullet would go through the shield, unless it was made from something really tough.
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4/21/2015 4:49:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/21/2015 4:33:17 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/21/2015 4:23:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
It actually is possible to dodge a bullet, though. In a one-on-one setting the swordsman, if skilled enough to utilize this trick, may stand a chance.

The trick is simple. If you're smart enough to make the proper calculations quickly and precisely, you can determine based on where a gun is aimed what path the bullet would take if fired from that angle.
Provided that you were able to keep your body off this bullet path line, you're good.
Of course, you can't just keep constantly moving your body for every slight movement of the hand holding the gun. You'd tire quickly. So, along with predicting the bullet path, you'd need to watch the gunman's finger so that you can determine when he/she is about to fire. Keep your eye on both the bullet path and the finger on the trigger, so that you can dodge at the right time. Of course, once the gun is fired there is virtually no way for a human being to dodge. All dodging would have to happen before the bullet left the gun.

lol i'm still trying to devise a strategy for dealing with a gunman but you give good advice. You also have to intimidate the gunman so he has a huge chance of getting stressed and missing. Even if i get shot in a non lethal area, i still have a chance of slashing him apart lol. I'd say grabbing his armed hand may also play a part.