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daytonanerd
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6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?
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6/15/2015 4:56:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 4:52:47 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Well, in transliteration, anyway.

In romanization of its kana form, it does come to have two o's. It means that the o sound has double the length.
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6/15/2015 4:57:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 4:52:29 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Self-studying is far more difficult than actually having a teacher.

Don't have much of a choice. Luckily, I got the Genki books, which apparently are really good for self study. And they seem to be good, from what I've done.

And I always thought sayonara had one o.
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6/15/2015 5:00:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 4:57:57 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 6/15/2015 4:52:29 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Self-studying is far more difficult than actually having a teacher.

Don't have much of a choice. Luckily, I got the Genki books, which apparently are really good for self study. And they seem to be good, from what I've done.

Well, I wish you the best of luck!

And I always thought sayonara had one o.
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6/15/2015 5:02:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 5:00:13 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 6/15/2015 4:57:57 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 6/15/2015 4:52:29 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Self-studying is far more difficult than actually having a teacher.

Don't have much of a choice. Luckily, I got the Genki books, which apparently are really good for self study. And they seem to be good, from what I've done.

Well, I wish you the best of luck!

Thanks Endark. If you'd like to make my OuADDO character some unlikable Otaku, I'll allow you. That'd be a good bit of legacy to leave behind.

And I always thought sayonara had one o.
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6/15/2015 5:07:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?

Thoughtsandthoughts either is learning or has learned Japanese.
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6/15/2015 5:15:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 5:07:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?

Thoughtsandthoughts either is learning or has learned Japanese.

Then again, he/she hasn't been on DDO for several months.
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6/15/2015 5:35:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?

I've been learning the Japanese for about a year and a half now. My tip: Learn Hiragana/Katakana in two weeks, then dive straight into Kanji.
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6/15/2015 5:36:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 5:15:27 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/15/2015 5:07:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?

Thoughtsandthoughts either is learning or has learned Japanese.

Then again, he/she hasn't been on DDO for several months.

Yeah, I wasn't familiar with that user when you mentioned them.
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6/15/2015 5:37:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 5:35:27 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?

I've been learning the Japanese for about a year and a half now. My tip: Learn Hiragana/Katakana in two weeks, then dive straight into Kanji.

I'd say I'm pretty good with the kana now. I'll be diving into some kanji pretty soon.
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6/15/2015 5:39:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 5:37:03 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 6/15/2015 5:35:27 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?

I've been learning the Japanese for about a year and a half now. My tip: Learn Hiragana/Katakana in two weeks, then dive straight into Kanji.

I'd say I'm pretty good with the kana now. I'll be diving into some kanji pretty soon.

Start by learning basic radicals, then work your way up. Once you have a good grasp on radicals then stroke order becomes overrated :P. Also, you can't learn Kanji without first learning to write the word "hentai" http://www5.big.or.jp...
"Praise Allah."
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6/15/2015 5:41:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 5:39:17 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 6/15/2015 5:37:03 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 6/15/2015 5:35:27 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?

I've been learning the Japanese for about a year and a half now. My tip: Learn Hiragana/Katakana in two weeks, then dive straight into Kanji.

I'd say I'm pretty good with the kana now. I'll be diving into some kanji pretty soon.

Start by learning basic radicals, then work your way up. Once you have a good grasp on radicals then stroke order becomes overrated :P. Also, you can't learn Kanji without first learning to write the word "hentai" http://www5.big.or.jp...

Why do I feel like that's the only reason you started to learn Japanese?
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6/15/2015 5:46:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 5:41:58 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 6/15/2015 5:39:17 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 6/15/2015 5:37:03 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 6/15/2015 5:35:27 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?

I've been learning the Japanese for about a year and a half now. My tip: Learn Hiragana/Katakana in two weeks, then dive straight into Kanji.

I'd say I'm pretty good with the kana now. I'll be diving into some kanji pretty soon.

Start by learning basic radicals, then work your way up. Once you have a good grasp on radicals then stroke order becomes overrated :P. Also, you can't learn Kanji without first learning to write the word "hentai" http://www5.big.or.jp...

Why do I feel like that's the only reason you started to learn Japanese?

So that I have an excuse to go their without being accused of weeaboism. I'll just say I went their for "economic opportunity" ( cough cough: http://images2.fanpop.com... ) and for "their culture" (cough cough: http://images2.fanpop.com...) and "their rich and vibrant history (cough cough: http://images2.fanpop.com... )
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6/15/2015 5:49:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?

By the way, whenever you find some good resources for learning the language, could you please tell me where you found it?
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6/15/2015 5:57:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 5:49:56 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?

By the way, whenever you find some good resources for learning the language, could you please tell me where you found it?

Well, I'm using the Genki textbooks and workbooks. They're pretty expensive, but I'd say they are worth it. They are pretty comprehensive for the beginning level, and they have a VERY good reputation in the community. Currently, my plan for books(along with their respective textbooks) are, in order:

Genki I+II
An Integrated Approach to Intermediate Japanese
Tobira
Authentic Japanese: Progressing from Intermediate to Advanced
I presume native materials after that, as you'd probably be on a good enough level.

Also, around the same time as 'Integrated Approach', I'll probably get 'Kanji in Context' and its workbooks, and work through that as I go through the three remaining textbooks.
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6/15/2015 5:59:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 4:52:29 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Self-studying is far more difficult than actually having a teacher.

And I always thought sayonara had one o.

Self-studying isn't that difficult. (Except for Kanji, Kanji is evil.)
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6/15/2015 7:11:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 5:57:11 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 6/15/2015 5:49:56 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?

By the way, whenever you find some good resources for learning the language, could you please tell me where you found it?

Well, I'm using the Genki textbooks and workbooks. They're pretty expensive, but I'd say they are worth it. They are pretty comprehensive for the beginning level, and they have a VERY good reputation in the community. Currently, my plan for books(along with their respective textbooks) are, in order:

Genki I+II
An Integrated Approach to Intermediate Japanese
Tobira
Authentic Japanese: Progressing from Intermediate to Advanced
I presume native materials after that, as you'd probably be on a good enough level.

Also, around the same time as 'Integrated Approach', I'll probably get 'Kanji in Context' and its workbooks, and work through that as I go through the three remaining textbooks.

How expensive are we talking about?
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6/15/2015 7:16:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 7:11:30 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/15/2015 5:57:11 PM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 6/15/2015 5:49:56 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/15/2015 9:54:04 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
I've been interested with Japanese culture for a while now, and would like to take a trip there for my graduation gift in about 2 years. So I've decided to learn Japanese on my own, and I've started work through the textbooks.

Has anyone else self studied a language on here? How did you enjoy it?

By the way, whenever you find some good resources for learning the language, could you please tell me where you found it?

Well, I'm using the Genki textbooks and workbooks. They're pretty expensive, but I'd say they are worth it. They are pretty comprehensive for the beginning level, and they have a VERY good reputation in the community. Currently, my plan for books(along with their respective textbooks) are, in order:

Genki I+II
An Integrated Approach to Intermediate Japanese
Tobira
Authentic Japanese: Progressing from Intermediate to Advanced
I presume native materials after that, as you'd probably be on a good enough level.

Also, around the same time as 'Integrated Approach', I'll probably get 'Kanji in Context' and its workbooks, and work through that as I go through the three remaining textbooks.

How expensive are we talking about?

About $75 for both the textbook and the workbook for each half, so $150 total for both half of the Genki series. But this covers essentially the entire beginning level of Japanese.
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6/16/2015 6:55:44 AM
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Do you believe that blogs will become a common way of educating people in the future? No, http://www.pureassignments.com...
I think that we will use other platforms to do more "real time" sharing. I do think that there will still be a place for asynchronous learning though.