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8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?
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8/10/2015 7:53:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Positive. You're smart and friendly.
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8/10/2015 8:00:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

Friends, that's for sure. You aren't stuck up like others as well and you're willing to help others.
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8/10/2015 8:43:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2015 7:53:24 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Positive. You're smart and friendly.
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8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.
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8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?
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8/10/2015 11:33:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

Umm...what?
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8/10/2015 11:34:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2015 11:33:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

Umm...what?

I'm not joking, I remember recalling it when he made a forum topic on him becoming an Atheist. (He was a Christian before) Vox_Veritas did comment that, i'm pretty sure..
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8/10/2015 11:35:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2015 11:34:46 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:33:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

Umm...what?

I'm not joking, I remember recalling it when he made a forum topic on him becoming an Atheist. (He was a Christian before) Vox_Veritas did comment that, i'm pretty sure..

I remember that thread, but I don't remember THAT being said.
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8/10/2015 11:36:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2015 11:35:34 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:34:46 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:33:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

Umm...what?

I'm not joking, I remember recalling it when he made a forum topic on him becoming an Atheist. (He was a Christian before) Vox_Veritas did comment that, i'm pretty sure..

I remember that thread, but I don't remember THAT being said.

Do you remember the link to the thread? I'm pretty sure Vox did say that, maybe in different words.
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8/10/2015 11:37:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2015 11:35:34 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:34:46 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:33:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

Umm...what?

I'm not joking, I remember recalling it when he made a forum topic on him becoming an Atheist. (He was a Christian before) Vox_Veritas did comment that, i'm pretty sure..

I remember that thread, but I don't remember THAT being said.

Do you remember the link to the thread? I'm pretty sure Vox did say that, maybe in different and more sugar-coated words.
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8/10/2015 11:38:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2015 11:37:15 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:35:34 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:34:46 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:33:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

Umm...what?

I'm not joking, I remember recalling it when he made a forum topic on him becoming an Atheist. (He was a Christian before) Vox_Veritas did comment that, i'm pretty sure..

I remember that thread, but I don't remember THAT being said.

Do you remember the link to the thread? I'm pretty sure Vox did say that, maybe in different and more sugar-coated words.

I don't have that link.
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8/11/2015 12:06:09 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

...What? Link, please.
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8/11/2015 12:07:14 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/11/2015 12:06:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

...What? Link, please.

I don't know the link to that topic, but wasn't it when you said that "spiritual suicide" was worst then "physical suicide."
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8/11/2015 12:08:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I certainly never recommended that he jump off a bridge. However, an action which would cost you your eternal soul is undeniably worse than an action which costs you your physical existence.
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8/11/2015 12:09:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/11/2015 12:07:14 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:06:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

...What? Link, please.

I don't know the link to that topic, but wasn't it when you said that "spiritual suicide" was worst then "physical suicide."

http://www.debate.org...
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8/11/2015 12:11:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/11/2015 12:09:13 AM, kasmic wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:07:14 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:06:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

...What? Link, please.

I don't know the link to that topic, but wasn't it when you said that "spiritual suicide" was worst then "physical suicide."

http://www.debate.org...

Heh. I guess I did say that. But if Christianity is true, then that statement would be as well. I certainly did not tell anybody that they actually should jump off a bridge.
Call me Vox, the Resident Contrarian of debate.org.

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8/11/2015 12:14:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/11/2015 12:11:47 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:09:13 AM, kasmic wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:07:14 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:06:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

...What? Link, please.

I don't know the link to that topic, but wasn't it when you said that "spiritual suicide" was worst then "physical suicide."

http://www.debate.org...

Heh. I guess I did say that. But if Christianity is true, then that statement would be as well. I certainly did not tell anybody that they actually should jump off a bridge.

It's still pretty rude, and I guessed that you disliked Kasmic for some reason as your negative comment about him implies.
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8/11/2015 12:19:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/11/2015 12:14:23 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:11:47 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:09:13 AM, kasmic wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:07:14 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:06:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

...What? Link, please.

I don't know the link to that topic, but wasn't it when you said that "spiritual suicide" was worst then "physical suicide."

http://www.debate.org...

Heh. I guess I did say that. But if Christianity is true, then that statement would be as well. I certainly did not tell anybody that they actually should jump off a bridge.

It's still pretty rude, and I guessed that you disliked Kasmic for some reason as your negative comment about him implies.

I had nothing against Kasmic, and I still don't. I've been rather teed at times with militant atheists, but I *think* I haven't ever gotten mad at him. He's been pretty respectful towards religion and its adherents. The statement that I made was not inherently rude, though it is possible that I said it in a rude way. If Christianity is true then doing an action that costs you your eternal soul is the worst possible thing you can do, worse than an action which causes your merely physical death. If Christianity isn't true then I'm just wrong, end of story. I owe no one an apology for what I said in that thread, and I shall not apologize.
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8/11/2015 12:20:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/11/2015 12:19:54 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:14:23 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:11:47 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:09:13 AM, kasmic wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:07:14 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:06:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

...What? Link, please.

I don't know the link to that topic, but wasn't it when you said that "spiritual suicide" was worst then "physical suicide."

http://www.debate.org...

Heh. I guess I did say that. But if Christianity is true, then that statement would be as well. I certainly did not tell anybody that they actually should jump off a bridge.

It's still pretty rude, and I guessed that you disliked Kasmic for some reason as your negative comment about him implies.

I had nothing against Kasmic, and I still don't. I've been rather teed at times with militant atheists, but I *think* I haven't ever gotten mad at him. He's been pretty respectful towards religion and its adherents. The statement that I made was not inherently rude, though it is possible that I said it in a rude way. If Christianity is true then doing an action that costs you your eternal soul is the worst possible thing you can do, worse than an action which causes your merely physical death. If Christianity isn't true then I'm just wrong, end of story. I owe no one an apology for what I said in that thread, and I shall not apologize.

I've met many more "moderate" Christians who wouldn't say such a thing. I think the correct words would be "If my interpretation of Christianity is true."
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8/11/2015 12:27:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/11/2015 12:20:55 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:19:54 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:14:23 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:11:47 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:09:13 AM, kasmic wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:07:14 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:06:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

...What? Link, please.

I don't know the link to that topic, but wasn't it when you said that "spiritual suicide" was worst then "physical suicide."

http://www.debate.org...

Heh. I guess I did say that. But if Christianity is true, then that statement would be as well. I certainly did not tell anybody that they actually should jump off a bridge.

It's still pretty rude, and I guessed that you disliked Kasmic for some reason as your negative comment about him implies.

I had nothing against Kasmic, and I still don't. I've been rather teed at times with militant atheists, but I *think* I haven't ever gotten mad at him. He's been pretty respectful towards religion and its adherents. The statement that I made was not inherently rude, though it is possible that I said it in a rude way. If Christianity is true then doing an action that costs you your eternal soul is the worst possible thing you can do, worse than an action which causes your merely physical death. If Christianity isn't true then I'm just wrong, end of story. I owe no one an apology for what I said in that thread, and I shall not apologize.

I've met many more "moderate" Christians who wouldn't say such a thing. I think the correct words would be "If my interpretation of Christianity is true."

Literally the only thing that I did wrong was to have a fairly arrogant intent when saying it, which is just in my nature because I'm kind of a narcissistic guy, though I know Kasmic probably lives a more moral life than I do. Still, the statement's truth is not determined by the attitude of the person saying it.
As for "my interpretation", there's a very good chance that it's the interpretation the Bible's authors had in mind, based on the wording of verses. To say that somebody's going to go to Hell, even if said person is a more moral guy than somebody who goes to Heaven, is not an easy thing for a lot of people to swallow. Still, not a very good reason to skew verses in an attempt to change their meaning.
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8/11/2015 12:28:59 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/11/2015 12:27:45 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:20:55 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:19:54 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:14:23 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:11:47 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:09:13 AM, kasmic wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:07:14 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:06:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

...What? Link, please.

I don't know the link to that topic, but wasn't it when you said that "spiritual suicide" was worst then "physical suicide."

http://www.debate.org...

Heh. I guess I did say that. But if Christianity is true, then that statement would be as well. I certainly did not tell anybody that they actually should jump off a bridge.

It's still pretty rude, and I guessed that you disliked Kasmic for some reason as your negative comment about him implies.

I had nothing against Kasmic, and I still don't. I've been rather teed at times with militant atheists, but I *think* I haven't ever gotten mad at him. He's been pretty respectful towards religion and its adherents. The statement that I made was not inherently rude, though it is possible that I said it in a rude way. If Christianity is true then doing an action that costs you your eternal soul is the worst possible thing you can do, worse than an action which causes your merely physical death. If Christianity isn't true then I'm just wrong, end of story. I owe no one an apology for what I said in that thread, and I shall not apologize.

I've met many more "moderate" Christians who wouldn't say such a thing. I think the correct words would be "If my interpretation of Christianity is true."

Literally the only thing that I did wrong was to have a fairly arrogant intent when saying it, which is just in my nature because I'm kind of a narcissistic guy, though I know Kasmic probably lives a more moral life than I do. Still, the statement's truth is not determined by the attitude of the person saying it.
As for "my interpretation", there's a very good chance that it's the interpretation the Bible's authors had in mind, based on the wording of verses. To say that somebody's going to go to Hell, even if said person is a more moral guy than somebody who goes to Heaven, is not an easy thing for a lot of people to swallow. Still, not a very good reason to skew verses in an attempt to change their meaning.

I think most people would live a more moral life than a really fundamentalist Christian.
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8/11/2015 12:29:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/11/2015 12:28:59 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:27:45 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:20:55 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:19:54 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:14:23 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:11:47 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:09:13 AM, kasmic wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:07:14 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:06:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

...What? Link, please.

I don't know the link to that topic, but wasn't it when you said that "spiritual suicide" was worst then "physical suicide."

http://www.debate.org...

Heh. I guess I did say that. But if Christianity is true, then that statement would be as well. I certainly did not tell anybody that they actually should jump off a bridge.

It's still pretty rude, and I guessed that you disliked Kasmic for some reason as your negative comment about him implies.

I had nothing against Kasmic, and I still don't. I've been rather teed at times with militant atheists, but I *think* I haven't ever gotten mad at him. He's been pretty respectful towards religion and its adherents. The statement that I made was not inherently rude, though it is possible that I said it in a rude way. If Christianity is true then doing an action that costs you your eternal soul is the worst possible thing you can do, worse than an action which causes your merely physical death. If Christianity isn't true then I'm just wrong, end of story. I owe no one an apology for what I said in that thread, and I shall not apologize.

I've met many more "moderate" Christians who wouldn't say such a thing. I think the correct words would be "If my interpretation of Christianity is true."

Literally the only thing that I did wrong was to have a fairly arrogant intent when saying it, which is just in my nature because I'm kind of a narcissistic guy, though I know Kasmic probably lives a more moral life than I do. Still, the statement's truth is not determined by the attitude of the person saying it.
As for "my interpretation", there's a very good chance that it's the interpretation the Bible's authors had in mind, based on the wording of verses. To say that somebody's going to go to Hell, even if said person is a more moral guy than somebody who goes to Heaven, is not an easy thing for a lot of people to swallow. Still, not a very good reason to skew verses in an attempt to change their meaning.

I think most people would live a more moral life than a really fundamentalist Christian.

That's kind of an idiotic statement.
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8/11/2015 12:30:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/11/2015 12:29:38 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
That's kind of an idiotic statement.

As if your statement on 'spiritual suicide' wasn't idiotic?
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8/11/2015 12:32:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/11/2015 12:27:45 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:20:55 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:19:54 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:14:23 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:11:47 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:09:13 AM, kasmic wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:07:14 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:06:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 11:31:34 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/10/2015 8:55:37 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 8/10/2015 7:52:40 PM, kasmic wrote:
This is not in an attempt to be vain or seek out compliments or bait insults, just out a curiosity. What is the general view people have of me here on Debate.org?

You seem to be kind of a depressed, antisocial kind of guy.

Didn't you also tell him once that he would be better off jumping off a bridge instead of becoming an atheist from a christian?

...What? Link, please.

I don't know the link to that topic, but wasn't it when you said that "spiritual suicide" was worst then "physical suicide."

http://www.debate.org...

Heh. I guess I did say that. But if Christianity is true, then that statement would be as well. I certainly did not tell anybody that they actually should jump off a bridge.

It's still pretty rude, and I guessed that you disliked Kasmic for some reason as your negative comment about him implies.

I had nothing against Kasmic, and I still don't. I've been rather teed at times with militant atheists, but I *think* I haven't ever gotten mad at him. He's been pretty respectful towards religion and its adherents. The statement that I made was not inherently rude, though it is possible that I said it in a rude way. If Christianity is true then doing an action that costs you your eternal soul is the worst possible thing you can do, worse than an action which causes your merely physical death. If Christianity isn't true then I'm just wrong, end of story. I owe no one an apology for what I said in that thread, and I shall not apologize.

I've met many more "moderate" Christians who wouldn't say such a thing. I think the correct words would be "If my interpretation of Christianity is true."

Literally the only thing that I did wrong was to have a fairly arrogant intent when saying it, which is just in my nature because I'm kind of a narcissistic guy, though I know Kasmic probably lives a more moral life than I do. Still, the statement's truth is not determined by the attitude of the person saying it.
As for "my interpretation", there's a very good chance that it's the interpretation the Bible's authors had in mind, based on the wording of verses. To say that somebody's going to go to Hell, even if said person is a more moral guy than somebody who goes to Heaven, is not an easy thing for a lot of people to swallow. Still, not a very good reason to skew verses in an attempt to change their meaning.

No worries vox I understood what you intended and understood it to be genuine though I do reject the premise.

I appreciate that people seem to find me respectful and intelligent. Vox I do have bought a of depression, I did not find your comment rude at all, actually somewhat accurate. I don't think I would say I am anti social.
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8/11/2015 12:32:31 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Kasmic, You made two rather worthless, albeit entertaining, Americans brawl in a thread where it was very unexpected. I commend you!
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8/11/2015 12:32:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/11/2015 12:30:38 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 8/11/2015 12:29:38 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
That's kind of an idiotic statement.

As if your statement on 'spiritual suicide' wasn't idiotic?

If Christianity is true, then no, my statement was not idiotic. Even if my interpretation of the Bible were to turn out to be wrong, given the wording it was still a very reasonable interpretation so finding out in Heaven that I was wrong about Hell still wouldn't really make me an idiot.
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8/11/2015 12:33:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Dang it. I just realized that I'm derailing this thread. I'll stop now.
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