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It's stupid believing people who swear on god

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9/29/2015 9:20:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/29/2015 9:00:04 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
If they lie, all they have to say is

"God knows I'm lying so it's all good'


Not really. If they believe that God exists, then to them it's equivalent to saying "May God punish me in this life or the next if I'm lying. You can believe that what I'm saying is true because I'm willing to be punished by God if I'm lying."
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9/29/2015 9:28:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/29/2015 9:20:58 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/29/2015 9:00:04 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
If they lie, all they have to say is

"God knows I'm lying so it's all good'


Not really. If they believe that God exists, then to them it's equivalent to saying "May God punish me in this life or the next if I'm lying. You can believe that what I'm saying is true because I'm willing to be punished by God if I'm lying."

That's only if they truly believe that. I could be a non-believer and say I swear in god.
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9/29/2015 9:31:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/29/2015 9:28:48 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 9/29/2015 9:20:58 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/29/2015 9:00:04 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
If they lie, all they have to say is

"God knows I'm lying so it's all good'


Not really. If they believe that God exists, then to them it's equivalent to saying "May God punish me in this life or the next if I'm lying. You can believe that what I'm saying is true because I'm willing to be punished by God if I'm lying."


That's only if they truly believe that. I could be a non-believer and say I swear in god.

I suppose that an atheist could exploit this provided that the other guy thought he was a theist.
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9/29/2015 9:32:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/29/2015 9:31:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/29/2015 9:28:48 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 9/29/2015 9:20:58 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/29/2015 9:00:04 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
If they lie, all they have to say is

"God knows I'm lying so it's all good'


Not really. If they believe that God exists, then to them it's equivalent to saying "May God punish me in this life or the next if I'm lying. You can believe that what I'm saying is true because I'm willing to be punished by God if I'm lying."


That's only if they truly believe that. I could be a non-believer and say I swear in god.

I suppose that an atheist could exploit this provided that the other guy thought he was a theist.

Yes exactly, you never know. Almost some theists don't really care so they say whatever they want to make their claim sound believable.
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9/30/2015 12:20:16 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Ok then.
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9/30/2015 12:43:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/29/2015 9:00:04 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
If they lie, all they have to say is

"God knows I'm lying so it's all good'

If God knows they're lying then they would be the ones in the wrong. Simply admitting that doesn't make it "all good".