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Is it wrong to be attracted to your sister?

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4/8/2016 9:09:55 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/8/2016 7:49:26 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
Im asking for a friend.

Sure you are.
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4/8/2016 9:23:53 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
IIRC, siblings tend to give off certain kinds of pheromones that are specifically unattractive to each other. However, there are some circumstances where this is overridden. For example, genetic sexual attraction is actually surprisingly common between formerly estranged relatives [http://www.dailymail.co.uk...].
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4/8/2016 9:27:13 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
As for whether or not it's wrong, I can say it's at least almost certainly a bad idea. You should never have children with a genetic sibling, and even if you don't plan on having kids, the social stigma around it likely isn't worth putting up with. This is all assuming she's also into you. If she's not, or if you don't know, it's best to promptly move on to a more appropriate girl.
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4/8/2016 10:30:53 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/8/2016 9:27:13 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
As for whether or not it's wrong, I can say it's at least almost certainly a bad idea. You should never have children with a genetic sibling, and even if you don't plan on having kids, the social stigma around it likely isn't worth putting up with. This is all assuming she's also into you. If she's not, or if you don't know, it's best to promptly move on to a more appropriate girl.

and if she's a step-sibling?
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4/8/2016 10:34:06 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/8/2016 10:30:53 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/8/2016 9:27:13 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
As for whether or not it's wrong, I can say it's at least almost certainly a bad idea. You should never have children with a genetic sibling, and even if you don't plan on having kids, the social stigma around it likely isn't worth putting up with. This is all assuming she's also into you. If she's not, or if you don't know, it's best to promptly move on to a more appropriate girl.

and if she's a step-sibling?

You'll still likely have to put up with social stigma, but you're not actually related so w/e who cares.
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4/9/2016 11:40:11 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/8/2016 10:34:06 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/8/2016 10:30:53 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/8/2016 9:27:13 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
As for whether or not it's wrong, I can say it's at least almost certainly a bad idea. You should never have children with a genetic sibling, and even if you don't plan on having kids, the social stigma around it likely isn't worth putting up with. This is all assuming she's also into you. If she's not, or if you don't know, it's best to promptly move on to a more appropriate girl.

and if she's a step-sibling?

You'll still likely have to put up with social stigma, but you're not actually related so w/e who cares.

Youre like an incest-guru
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4/9/2016 11:40:59 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/9/2016 11:40:11 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/8/2016 10:34:06 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/8/2016 10:30:53 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/8/2016 9:27:13 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
As for whether or not it's wrong, I can say it's at least almost certainly a bad idea. You should never have children with a genetic sibling, and even if you don't plan on having kids, the social stigma around it likely isn't worth putting up with. This is all assuming she's also into you. If she's not, or if you don't know, it's best to promptly move on to a more appropriate girl.

and if she's a step-sibling?

You'll still likely have to put up with social stigma, but you're not actually related so w/e who cares.

Youre like an incest-guru

Lol don't call me that
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4/9/2016 11:41:30 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/9/2016 11:40:59 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/9/2016 11:40:11 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/8/2016 10:34:06 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/8/2016 10:30:53 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/8/2016 9:27:13 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
As for whether or not it's wrong, I can say it's at least almost certainly a bad idea. You should never have children with a genetic sibling, and even if you don't plan on having kids, the social stigma around it likely isn't worth putting up with. This is all assuming she's also into you. If she's not, or if you don't know, it's best to promptly move on to a more appropriate girl.

and if she's a step-sibling?

You'll still likely have to put up with social stigma, but you're not actually related so w/e who cares.

Youre like an incest-guru

Lol don't call me that
But it's not an incorrect title right?
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4/9/2016 11:42:39 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/9/2016 11:41:30 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/9/2016 11:40:59 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/9/2016 11:40:11 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/8/2016 10:34:06 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/8/2016 10:30:53 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/8/2016 9:27:13 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
As for whether or not it's wrong, I can say it's at least almost certainly a bad idea. You should never have children with a genetic sibling, and even if you don't plan on having kids, the social stigma around it likely isn't worth putting up with. This is all assuming she's also into you. If she's not, or if you don't know, it's best to promptly move on to a more appropriate girl.

and if she's a step-sibling?

You'll still likely have to put up with social stigma, but you're not actually related so w/e who cares.

Youre like an incest-guru

Lol don't call me that
But it's not an incorrect title right?

I'm not any kind of guru, but especially not an incest guru lmao
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4/10/2016 12:24:23 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/8/2016 7:49:26 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
Im asking for a friend.

Incest is listed as a subtype of pedophilic disorder. Incest refers to sexual relations between close relatives for whom marriage is forbidden. It is most common between brother and sister. The next most common form, which is considered more pathological, is between father and daughter. The offspring from a father"daughter or a brother"sister union have a greater probability of inheriting a pair of recessive genes, one from each parent. For the most part, recessive genes have negative biological effects, such as serious birth defects. The incest taboo, then, has adaptive evolutionary significance (Ford & Beach, 1951). There is evidence that families in which incest occurs are unusually patriarchal, especially with respect to the subservient position of women to men (Alexander & Lupfer, 1987). Parents in these families also tend to be more neglectful and emotionally distant from their children (Madonna, Van Scoyk, & Jones, 1991).

In sum: yes, it is wrong.
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4/10/2016 1:45:58 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/10/2016 12:24:23 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 4/8/2016 7:49:26 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
Im asking for a friend.

Incest is listed as a subtype of pedophilic disorder. Incest refers to sexual relations between close relatives for whom marriage is forbidden. It is most common between brother and sister. The next most common form, which is considered more pathological, is between father and daughter. The offspring from a father"daughter or a brother"sister union have a greater probability of inheriting a pair of recessive genes, one from each parent. For the most part, recessive genes have negative biological effects, such as serious birth defects. The incest taboo, then, has adaptive evolutionary significance (Ford & Beach, 1951). There is evidence that families in which incest occurs are unusually patriarchal, especially with respect to the subservient position of women to men (Alexander & Lupfer, 1987). Parents in these families also tend to be more neglectful and emotionally distant from their children (Madonna, Van Scoyk, & Jones, 1991).

In sum: yes, it is wrong.

It is not necessarily pedophilic in nature.
There was this one guy who basically just treated his daughter like normal until one day when she was an adult he asked her to come over to help install a door. She came over but it was revealed to be some kind of trick door and she was trapped in the basement. Her father occasionally came down there and had sex with her; he later installed a TV and living space down there once she started bearing his children.
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4/10/2016 5:20:28 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
My cat, Aristotle, seems to have a thing for his sister, Psyche. I don't know if it's right or wrong since they're just cats. However, it is what it is.
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4/10/2016 11:11:15 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/8/2016 7:49:26 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
Im asking for a friend.

You can't help who you're attracted to but it would be wrong to show it or act on it. Not because of genetics (wtf?) but because your sister is in a non-avoidable relationship with you (i mean you in general - obviously not you, Jedi4). She should be in a safe space at home with her family, and her first sexual experiences should be wholly voluntary, which means she should be able to refuse them or go for it and breakup or whatever without long term awkwardness. That's impossible with a sibling.
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4/10/2016 5:26:35 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/10/2016 11:11:15 AM, Hoppi wrote:
At 4/8/2016 7:49:26 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
Im asking for a friend.

You can't help who you're attracted to but it would be wrong to show it or act on it. Not because of genetics (wtf?) but because your sister is in a non-avoidable relationship with you (i mean you in general - obviously not you, Jedi4). She should be in a safe space at home with her family, and her first sexual experiences should be wholly voluntary, which means she should be able to refuse them or go for it and breakup or whatever without long term awkwardness. That's impossible with a sibling.

At the same time, however, the age of the two siblings is not known.
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4/11/2016 1:50:13 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/10/2016 12:24:23 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 4/8/2016 7:49:26 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
Im asking for a friend.

Incest is listed as a subtype of pedophilic disorder. Incest refers to sexual relations between close relatives for whom marriage is forbidden. It is most common between brother and sister. The next most common form, which is considered more pathological, is between father and daughter. The offspring from a father"daughter or a brother"sister union have a greater probability of inheriting a pair of recessive genes, one from each parent. For the most part, recessive genes have negative biological effects, such as serious birth defects. The incest taboo, then, has adaptive evolutionary significance (Ford & Beach, 1951). There is evidence that families in which incest occurs are unusually patriarchal, especially with respect to the subservient position of women to men (Alexander & Lupfer, 1987). Parents in these families also tend to be more neglectful and emotionally distant from their children (Madonna, Van Scoyk, & Jones, 1991).

In sum: yes, it is wrong.
My freind's sis isn't a child bruh.
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4/11/2016 1:59:16 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/11/2016 1:50:13 AM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/10/2016 12:24:23 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 4/8/2016 7:49:26 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
Im asking for a friend.

Incest is listed as a subtype of pedophilic disorder. Incest refers to sexual relations between close relatives for whom marriage is forbidden. It is most common between brother and sister. The next most common form, which is considered more pathological, is between father and daughter. The offspring from a father"daughter or a brother"sister union have a greater probability of inheriting a pair of recessive genes, one from each parent. For the most part, recessive genes have negative biological effects, such as serious birth defects. The incest taboo, then, has adaptive evolutionary significance (Ford & Beach, 1951). There is evidence that families in which incest occurs are unusually patriarchal, especially with respect to the subservient position of women to men (Alexander & Lupfer, 1987). Parents in these families also tend to be more neglectful and emotionally distant from their children (Madonna, Van Scoyk, & Jones, 1991).

In sum: yes, it is wrong.
My freind's sis isn't a child bruh.

http://www.motherjones.com...

Fine then, resort to the biological factors and the psychological factor that there is an innate revulsion to incest.
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4/11/2016 2:00:39 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/10/2016 5:20:28 AM, philochristos wrote:
My cat, Aristotle, seems to have a thing for his sister, Psyche. I don't know if it's right or wrong since they're just cats. However, it is what it is.

Yeah m8, Aristotle was into that stuff.
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4/11/2016 2:01:58 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/11/2016 1:50:13 AM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/10/2016 12:24:23 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 4/8/2016 7:49:26 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
Im asking for a friend.

Incest is listed as a subtype of pedophilic disorder. Incest refers to sexual relations between close relatives for whom marriage is forbidden. It is most common between brother and sister. The next most common form, which is considered more pathological, is between father and daughter. The offspring from a father"daughter or a brother"sister union have a greater probability of inheriting a pair of recessive genes, one from each parent. For the most part, recessive genes have negative biological effects, such as serious birth defects. The incest taboo, then, has adaptive evolutionary significance (Ford & Beach, 1951). There is evidence that families in which incest occurs are unusually patriarchal, especially with respect to the subservient position of women to men (Alexander & Lupfer, 1987). Parents in these families also tend to be more neglectful and emotionally distant from their children (Madonna, Van Scoyk, & Jones, 1991).

In sum: yes, it is wrong.
My freind's sis isn't a child bruh.

I think you and Vox are focusing on one specific detail and overlooking the rest of the information that peters is providing. In short you and him both just strawmanned peters argutment.
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4/11/2016 3:45:46 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
I could make an argument saying that it's not inherently wrong but social and genetic factors make it unpalatable, but f*ck it, just do what you want.
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4/11/2016 3:48:21 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/11/2016 2:01:58 AM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 4/11/2016 1:50:13 AM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/10/2016 12:24:23 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 4/8/2016 7:49:26 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
Im asking for a friend.

Incest is listed as a subtype of pedophilic disorder. Incest refers to sexual relations between close relatives for whom marriage is forbidden. It is most common between brother and sister. The next most common form, which is considered more pathological, is between father and daughter. The offspring from a father"daughter or a brother"sister union have a greater probability of inheriting a pair of recessive genes, one from each parent. For the most part, recessive genes have negative biological effects, such as serious birth defects. The incest taboo, then, has adaptive evolutionary significance (Ford & Beach, 1951). There is evidence that families in which incest occurs are unusually patriarchal, especially with respect to the subservient position of women to men (Alexander & Lupfer, 1987). Parents in these families also tend to be more neglectful and emotionally distant from their children (Madonna, Van Scoyk, & Jones, 1991).

In sum: yes, it is wrong.
My freind's sis isn't a child bruh.

I think you and Vox are focusing on one specific detail and overlooking the rest of the information that peters is providing. In short you and him both just strawmanned peters argutment.

Not really. I was simply pointing out how dumb the incest=pedophilia equation is. I wasn't saying that the rest of the post was dumb.
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4/13/2016 8:41:26 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/11/2016 10:39:01 PM, TUF wrote:
Ryuu, the incest guru. I like the sound of that.
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4/14/2016 3:30:44 AM
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And the decay of society on display. One has to ask such a question?
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

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4/14/2016 1:59:42 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/8/2016 9:09:55 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/8/2016 7:49:26 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
Im asking for a friend.

Sure you are.

That was the first thought that ran through my mind.
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4/14/2016 2:00:30 PM
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At 4/8/2016 7:49:26 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
Im asking for a friend.

It depends on who you are and your moral stance on incest. Society will look down upon it, but that's up to you.
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4/16/2016 3:58:22 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/14/2016 3:30:44 AM, sadolite wrote:
And the decay of society on display. One has to ask such a question?

aiii bro. How do u think we all got here? incest m8. Adam eve and all that. Noah. Yeahhh man it was a better time.
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4/16/2016 2:59:05 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/8/2016 7:49:26 PM, Jedi4 wrote:
Im asking for a friend.

It would be like saying you can't cognitively think of your lifecycle. It would be parallel to admitting that you have no capacity to reason how your life will unfold.
No one can know the future, but to have zero bearing on how you will adapt to the future is idiocy.

There are plenty of reasons it is wrong. SO many I am not obligated to give specific or enlightening examples. They are abundant and obviously so.

hope that gives you something to work with.

sexual attraction, and appreciation or looks are 100% different.
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4/16/2016 5:13:47 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 3:58:22 AM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/14/2016 3:30:44 AM, sadolite wrote:
And the decay of society on display. One has to ask such a question?

aiii bro. How do u think we all got here? incest m8. Adam eve and all that. Noah. Yeahhh man it was a better time.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that nobody really had a choice at the time if they wanted to keep the species alive.
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4/16/2016 5:15:24 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 5:13:47 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 4/16/2016 3:58:22 AM, Jedi4 wrote:
At 4/14/2016 3:30:44 AM, sadolite wrote:
And the decay of society on display. One has to ask such a question?

aiii bro. How do u think we all got here? incest m8. Adam eve and all that. Noah. Yeahhh man it was a better time.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that nobody really had a choice at the time if they wanted to keep the species alive.

So incenst =/= decay of society....