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8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM
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Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.
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8/18/2016 1:36:41 AM
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At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

I was a liberal democrat for 8 years from age 8-16. Mainly because when I was 8 I was like "Wow a minority that's a first".

I left liberalism and more importantly the democratic party because I realized that it would only get worst with the feminism, social justice and worst of all the socialism.

While I do retain that government must remain a integral part of the economy I am now a social conservative
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8/18/2016 3:46:10 AM
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At 8/18/2016 1:36:41 AM, Capital wrote:
At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

I was a liberal democrat for 8 years from age 8-16. Mainly because when I was 8 I was like "Wow a minority that's a first".

I left liberalism and more importantly the democratic party because I realized that it would only get worst with the feminism, social justice and worst of all the socialism.

While I do retain that government must remain a integral part of the economy I am now a social conservative

That change makes no sense. Usually the response to lower levels of argumentation is to develop a more naunced attitude rather than flip to the other side of the spectrum.
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8/18/2016 3:55:32 AM
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At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

Well in the past two or three years, this has been my progression.

Catholic -> non-denominational Christian -> agnostic -> apatheist

Centre-left -> generally left -> far left

Social liberal -> pure self-ownership

Sort of moral universalist -> moral relativist -> meh

No position -> existential nihilism
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8/18/2016 3:56:23 AM
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There was a wide range of things that changed my perspective - my own philosophical ventures, life experiences, and arguments on DDO.
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8/18/2016 5:46:11 AM
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At 8/18/2016 3:46:10 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 8/18/2016 1:36:41 AM, Capital wrote:
At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

I was a liberal democrat for 8 years from age 8-16. Mainly because when I was 8 I was like "Wow a minority that's a first".

I left liberalism and more importantly the democratic party because I realized that it would only get worst with the feminism, social justice and worst of all the socialism.

While I do retain that government must remain a integral part of the economy I am now a social conservative

That change makes no sense. Usually the response to lower levels of argumentation is to develop a more naunced attitude rather than flip to the other side of the spectrum.

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8/18/2016 6:57:24 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

Religiously
When I was about 5-11 I was a deist-pseudo Christian. I believed in Jesus as the son of God, but I didn't understand or know anything beyond "Jesus is the Son of God who died and was resurrected". I didn't know why Christianity said he died or what that supposedly entails and I didn't really care that much.

Then my mom married a hardcore fundie and I had Christianity explained to me. I accepted it because my mom became a Christian and I simply thought I had something I believed all my life explained and expanded on. From about 11-15 I was a fundamentalist, young Earth creationist, dominionist, and soft theonomist (rejected old testament rituals and dietary dictations, but still accepted much of its law).

Around 15/16 I started becoming more and more skeptical of supernatural claims. I studied magic tricks and mentalism which made me understand that no matter how certain a trick seems like magic or mind reading, there is always something behind the scenes that show it to be completely natural. I extended this skepticism towards your typical supernatural claims (ghosts, psychics, ect) and found myself rejecting these claims. I extended the same skepticism towards religion albeit really uncomfortably. I ended up concluding my religion was rational several times, but I realized that I wasn't being honest with myself in the judgments. I managed to set aside the potential social consequences of rejecting religion and ended up becoming an atheist.

Flip flopped between strong and weak atheism for a while before concluding that weak atheism was more rational. And that's where I am today,

Politically

When I was younger (9-11) I was pretty liberal in regards to social issues. I didn't understand anything about economics or any that, but what little I did know about social issues I took a liberal stance.

Then the fundamentalist views made me a bit nutty. I believed essentially in a Christian theocracy. Including elements of theonomist thought. If you talk back to your parents, ya gonna get killed. You love someone of the same sex, you gonna get killed. Work on Sunday? Enjoy never working again. I also became a borderline Nazi from 13-14. I didn't actually like the Nazis or anything, but I bought a lot of the white nationalist and white separatist rhetoric.

Around 15 I got pretty apathetic towards politics. My parents loved the Conservative Christian right and they were getting really annoying about it. Even though I agreed with them they were still annoying and it made me apathetic. When I rejected religion around 16, I became more or less right-libertarian. Then liberal democrat, then social democrat, and finally after studying anarchist and socialist philosophy accepted anarcho-syndicalism/communism.

Philosophically

When I was Christian I accepted free will, then ultimately rejected it for theological reasons. Then as an atheist I rejected it for philosophical reasons. Then kinda leaned towards compatiblism and I'm now leaning towards a contrastivist view (that compatiblism and incompatiblism itself are compatible).

For philosophy of mind, I originally accepted dualism (although I didn't understand that), then reductive materialism, then nonreductive materialism, then neutral monism, then biological naturalism, then leaned towards panpsychism, then to biological naturalism, then neutral monism again before just giving up on trying to figure out which one I thought was the best explanation.

Ethically, went from moral realist to moral subjectivism, to leaning towards moral nihilism, but still not really knowing which one I should accept.

Epistemological, went from Christian foundationalist, to foundationalism based on perception, to indirect skepticism.

Yeah, I change my mind quite a bit.
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8/18/2016 6:59:02 AM
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Should've stated in the religious part that I also recently adopted Secular Buddhism.
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8/18/2016 11:54:37 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/18/2016 3:46:10 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 8/18/2016 1:36:41 AM, Capital wrote:
At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

I was a liberal democrat for 8 years from age 8-16. Mainly because when I was 8 I was like "Wow a minority that's a first".

I left liberalism and more importantly the democratic party because I realized that it would only get worst with the feminism, social justice and worst of all the socialism.

While I do retain that government must remain a integral part of the economy I am now a social conservative

That change makes no sense. Usually the response to lower levels of argumentation is to develop a more naunced attitude rather than flip to the other side of the spectrum.

I changed my mind. I always like Obama because he was going to be the first black president. Then I convinced myself that all of his policies are good. His economic policies were good but not his social ones

Forcing everyone to serve gay people, allowing isis to grow in the middle east, and Obama care were terrible ideas
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8/18/2016 3:36:12 PM
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At 8/18/2016 6:57:24 AM, n7 wrote:

Communism is very different from anarcho-syndicalism. Communism is socialism as achieved by the state, i.e. "public ownership" referring to "state ownership". The state forms the entirety of the public sector. Libertarian socialism, by definition, rejects state ownership and believes in community ownership of property.
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8/18/2016 3:55:27 PM
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Socialist--->Libertarian
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8/18/2016 3:59:11 PM
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At 8/18/2016 6:57:24 AM, n7 wrote:
I also became a borderline Nazi from 13-14. I didn't actually like the Nazis or anything, but I bought a lot of the white nationalist and white separatist rhetoric.

1000 years of memes.
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8/18/2016 5:36:43 PM
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At 8/18/2016 3:36:12 PM, tejretics wrote:
At 8/18/2016 6:57:24 AM, n7 wrote:

Communism is very different from anarcho-syndicalism. Communism is socialism as achieved by the state, i.e. "public ownership" referring to "state ownership". The state forms the entirety of the public sector. Libertarian socialism, by definition, rejects state ownership and believes in community ownership of property.

That's more Marxism. Anarcho-communism rejects the state transition to communism. The end goal of syndicalism is communism. They're both subsets of LibSoc.
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8/18/2016 5:44:13 PM
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At 8/18/2016 3:59:11 PM, Fkkize wrote:
At 8/18/2016 6:57:24 AM, n7 wrote:
I also became a borderline Nazi from 13-14. I didn't actually like the Nazis or anything, but I bought a lot of the white nationalist and white separatist rhetoric.

1000 years of memes.
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8/18/2016 9:51:05 PM
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At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

Formerly a Neo Con
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8/18/2016 11:35:48 PM
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At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

I changed from liberal to conservative in my late 20's which is not to be confused with Democrat /Republican. I changed because over the years I have seen what liberalism has done to decimate liberty, the fiscal insanity, the raping of the taxpayer, the enslavement or the poor, and the overall moral bankruptcy of the ideology. Liberalism is tyranny disguised as we are here to help. Liberal policies have only hindered me and made everything I have tried to achieve harder. I achieve despite what liberalism does to the country and me.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
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8/18/2016 11:55:28 PM
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At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

Politically, I was apathetic until I was 12, when I became a Social Neocon. I started to become more liberal on some social and immigration issues, and now I consider myself a right-wing libertarian who is economically on the far right and socially center-right.

Religiously, I was a devout Catholic for 10 years, then I became agnostic when I couldn't find sufficient evidence for any religious position. I attempted to prove or disprove certain religious beliefs, and I was partially successful. I was convinced that Christian theology was false, but I also came up with a logical proof for the existence of a supernatural creator of the universe, and I have been a secular panentheist ever since.

I became interested in philosophy when I started questioning my religion, and I have rejected utilitarianism and switched to Kantian deontology mixed with my own ideas. I have always been a Rationalist and believed that any true statement can be proven with deductive reasoning.
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8/19/2016 2:47:08 AM
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Liberalism --> Left wing pseudo-libertarian --> moderately libertarian --> right wing libertarian --> moderately libertarian (for a short time) --> right wing libertarian/nationalist
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8/19/2016 2:04:25 PM
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My path

Infantile --> Idiotic --> Nerdiness intesifies --> Ignorant of self --> Why do people hate me? --> I'm an idiot --> Boo-hoo --> I'm OK --> Stable but nothing special while social skills intensify.
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8/19/2016 4:51:20 PM
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At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

Raised a Muslim, thought it was bs from about age 10ish, became agnostic, declaring no side, then became a Christian and a poor one at that, but discovered grace and have a Christianised/Bronto view on the world.
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8/22/2016 11:58:00 PM
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At 8/18/2016 9:51:05 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

Formerly a Neo Con
Now a moderate libertarian

Take courage in knowing you're not a neocon. Those are a shifty breed. ;P
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8/23/2016 1:45:04 AM
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At 8/22/2016 11:58:00 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 8/18/2016 9:51:05 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

Formerly a Neo Con
Now a moderate libertarian

Take courage in knowing you're not a neocon. Those are a shifty breed. ;P

Indeed they are. Glad that ship sailed for me :)
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8/23/2016 2:24:38 AM
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At 8/23/2016 1:45:04 AM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 8/22/2016 11:58:00 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 8/18/2016 9:51:05 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

Formerly a Neo Con
Now a moderate libertarian

Take courage in knowing you're not a neocon. Those are a shifty breed. ;P

Indeed they are. Glad that ship sailed for me :)

Haha :)
I'm just a conservative, nothing neo about it ;P
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8/23/2016 8:16:56 AM
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Politics:

Social Conservative -> Liberal/Socialist -> Capitalist -> Socialist -> Christian Democracy -> Social Conservative -> Social Democracy

In the past I also used to be a Feminist Roman Catholic, and now I'm not a feminist anymore and I'm an Atheist/Agnostic.

Philosophy:

Kantianism -> Rule Utilitarian -> Solipsist -> Existential Nihilist -> Ethical Nihilist -> Act Utilitarian

I'm still pretty indecisive really, about my ideologies and all. I'm still trying to figure things out.
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8/23/2016 2:43:39 PM
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At 8/23/2016 1:45:04 AM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 8/22/2016 11:58:00 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 8/18/2016 9:51:05 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

Formerly a Neo Con
Now a moderate libertarian

Take courage in knowing you're not a neocon. Those are a shifty breed. ;P

Indeed they are. Glad that ship sailed for me :)

I thought you were a neo-con; what do you disagree with neocons on?
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8/23/2016 9:24:28 PM
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At 8/18/2016 1:28:24 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Individuals' ideologies constantly evolve throughout their lifetime, whether it's from social influences, familial influences, or even governmental influences. It can be commonly said that the ideologies you have now were not the ones that you first formed, especially if you weren't that heavily influences by your parents. So, the question is: how have your ideologies changed throughout your life? This includes political, religious, philosophical, and other positions. What did you start as? Where are you now? Who or what had the most influence on these changes? Discuss.

Politics
With regards to politics, I made the change from a centrist to a classical liberal. This change is outlined by my Political Compass album (http://www.debate.org...).

My views began changing, believe it or not, when I joined this site about 2 years ago. I also had a history teacher that encouraged independent research and development of views. This was also a major factor.

I have always been patriotic, and have held the Founders in high regard. Due to the research I conducted, I discovered the Founders' views on the issues, and compared them to many other views, and the ones I found most logically sound, I adopted (thus the dramatic shifts in my political compass). I have become what the Founding Fathers were, and I hold many of their views.

Religion
I haven't always been a Christian, but I have been affiliate with the faith for a majority of my life, with flux points in between. I have only recently become knowledgeable of Christianity's theology and the various ways to defend it, as well as its specific stances on issues.

I used to be a Southern Baptist, briefly Presbyterian, then I went back to Southern Baptist. This is all due to my parents' shifting denominations. Then I began my research about religion, and began questioning not only my faith, but religion in general. This led to a period of brief Atheism, and by brief, I mean about 3 days. I was still a moral objectivist and believed in free will, but I felt that life had no meaning. I hate that feeling, and I began a slow drift back to Christianity, and became a non-denominational evangelical. This return to the faith is when I learned its theology and apologetics, and began my drift towards Conservative Minarchism, and now Classical Liberalism.

So, really, my political shift is closely related with my theological shift.

Philosophically
I have always been a moral objectivist and somewhat of a presentist (I believe that the past did exist at some point, and that there are remnants of it that still exist today in the form of physical objects and stories, and that everything in the present exists, but nothing in the future).

Other than that, I am not versed enough in philosophy to have specific views.
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"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.