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YYW
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9/8/2016 5:05:28 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
Do you feel like you need trigger warnings for stuff?

Why? What is it about you that you feel requires that you be told ahead of time of what lies ahead?

What are the subjects you need trigger warnings for? Why those subjects? How did you get to this point where you needed trigger warnings?

What good do you think trigger warnings render? What bad?
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9/8/2016 10:14:35 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/8/2016 5:05:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Do you feel like you need trigger warnings for stuff?

Why? What is it about you that you feel requires that you be told ahead of time of what lies ahead?

What are the subjects you need trigger warnings for? Why those subjects? How did you get to this point where you needed trigger warnings?

What good do you think trigger warnings render? What bad?

It seems like a perfectly reasonable service to me. For example, I might not want to see photos of dead bodies while scrolling through a news feed. It's nice if they have a little warning which you can click past if you want to see the thing, or not. I could imagine that someone who had experienced sexual assault wouldn't want to be watching tv or youtube and be hit with some heavy joke about rape. While yeah, there could be questions about how possible it could be to implement this in each case, I've never understood what's so crazy or even "feminist" about that idea.
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9/8/2016 12:12:31 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/8/2016 5:05:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Do you feel like you need trigger warnings for stuff?
Well of course! I know that when I see, hear, or even THINK about the words "Black Poverty", I break down into tears and need help from 4 different psychologists to get back under control.

Why? What is it about you that you feel requires that you be told ahead of time of what lies ahead?
Because black people and women should be above white males

What are the subjects you need trigger warnings for? Why those subjects? How did you get to this point where you needed trigger warnings?
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What good do you think trigger warnings render? What bad?
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9/8/2016 1:26:07 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/8/2016 5:05:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Do you feel like you need trigger warnings for stuff?

Why? What is it about you that you feel requires that you be told ahead of time of what lies ahead?

What are the subjects you need trigger warnings for? Why those subjects? How did you get to this point where you needed trigger warnings?

What good do you think trigger warnings render? What bad?

Is spoiler alert a trigger warning?
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9/8/2016 1:46:01 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/8/2016 5:05:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Do you feel like you need trigger warnings for stuff?

I don't think an Epilepsy warning counts, but if it does then some of those might needed. I do think that the ones that you are trying to get at like political and scoial don't really need one.

Why? What is it about you that you feel requires that you be told ahead of time of what lies ahead?

See above. If politicial/Social then nothing.

What are the subjects you need trigger warnings for? Why those subjects? How did you get to this point where you needed trigger warnings?

What good do you think trigger warnings render? What bad?

None, I think they are the most rediculious thing out there. Unless it's for a legittament disorder it shouldn't be employed. All these people who self-diagnose are likely to over do it. Others are just lying to make sure they don't have their point of view heard.
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9/8/2016 3:46:08 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/8/2016 5:05:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Do you feel like you need trigger warnings for stuff?

Sometimes

Why? What is it about you that you feel requires that you be told ahead of time of what lies ahead?

If some sort of material could potentially cause emotional and/or mental harm. It's to prevent any unnecessary exposure to something you're not comfortable with (EG would you, without any warning, show something that includes someone that is being sexually assaulted to someone who was sexually assaulted?). It's their prerogative if they are okay with seeing it as it's in no way censorship. Oxford Dictionaries says a "trigger warning" is: A statement at the start of a piece of writing, video, etc., alerting the reader or viewer to the fact that it contains potentially distressing material (often used to introduce a description of such content). I don't see "something that can cause a traumatic episode from someone with PTSD", but of course it could still apply to there depending on the person.

What are the subjects you need trigger warnings for? Why those subjects? How did you get to this point where you needed trigger warnings?

"I" don't need trigger warnings for anything. However, it most commonly is "intense violence" (which includes both gore and sexual violence". Terrorists exploit this kind of material to instill fear in a population, which must mean it causes emotional and/or mental harm in some people. If a terrorist organization had a "trigger warning" before their own content, then they will definitely less effective, probably even mocked.

What good do you think trigger warnings render? What bad?

I think that trigger warnings really aren't something people should be in uproar about. It's a warning to people who might be sensitive to the content lying ahead. If you aren't, then ignore it and move on (it's not like the warning persists for more than 2 minutes). There's no sense in acting like a trigger warning is a detriment to society and a form of censorship. Now, you could add censorship to a trigger warning, but that's honestly kind of pointless since you already warned the person of what's up ahead. The only real downside is that it would seem like a waste of 2 precious minutes to you, and that there could be a "shame" factor. However, most trigger warnings I see don't say "for those with PTSD after seeing your family die, tune away for however long the next clip lasts). No, most of the time it's "viewer discretion is advised as the next segment contains whatever" or "the next segment contains whatever (distressing material) for however long that may make some uncomfortable". With those examples, it's fairly clear it's not specifically calling anyone out (as it would include those just plain sensitive to the subject). You could make the claim by saying "trigger warnings don't trigger", but then you could respond with "okay, but I don't want to see someone being decapitated because that makes me uncomfortable". It's not specifically directed towards people with PTSD. You could consider it "avoidance", but the segment still plays regardless of you turning away, so whoever is broadcasting isn't necessarily avoiding it. "Avoidance" would be "the next clip contains whatever so we're not going to show it, you can look it up on your own if you want." Think of a trigger warning like a spoiler warning. Is that so horrible? It must not be because so many people complain about things being spoiled for them. It's even more widespread than a trigger warning. Is it really so bad that some people have gotten to the point where they add trigger warnings to "what's wrong with modern America"? If that's the case, then those people are hypocritical given this is them being very easily offended.
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9/8/2016 4:01:06 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/8/2016 5:05:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Do you feel like you need trigger warnings for stuff?

Why? What is it about you that you feel requires that you be told ahead of time of what lies ahead?

What are the subjects you need trigger warnings for? Why those subjects? How did you get to this point where you needed trigger warnings?

What good do you think trigger warnings render? What bad?

No we need to teach our kids and our colleagues to be thick skinned

Not whiny children like mizzou
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9/8/2016 4:22:47 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/8/2016 5:05:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Do you feel like you need trigger warnings for stuff?

Why? What is it about you that you feel requires that you be told ahead of time of what lies ahead?

What are the subjects you need trigger warnings for? Why those subjects? How did you get to this point where you needed trigger warnings?

What good do you think trigger warnings render? What bad?

I don't need them, as I have previously stated in other threads, they don't exist, it's just rewording and perhaps expanding the definition of "disclaimer"
Disclaimers however are needed, should be adequate and thorough. Cause there's some sh1t I don't want to see or hear about. But for me it's the general stuff, certain kinds of violence etc.
What bad? you ask, well this new redefining of disclaimer is now including "hate speech" whatever that is.
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9/8/2016 7:25:13 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/8/2016 5:05:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Do you feel like you need trigger warnings for stuff?
I don't, others may.

Why? What is it about you that you feel requires that you be told ahead of time of what lies ahead?
We've had trigger warnings to a lesser extent for years at this point, parental advisory warnings for example

What are the subjects you need trigger warnings for? Why those subjects? How did you get to this point where you needed trigger warnings?

None, but others may he unsettled by the presence of violence, sexually explicit content or otherwise if it brings back anxiety from previous traumatic experiences.

What good do you think trigger warnings render? What bad?

It does nothing to censor or undermine the content that's presented, but merely cautions others who may find said content disturbing. It's fine so long as deliberate attempts are not made to censor material beyond what is reasonable.
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9/9/2016 6:04:03 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/8/2016 5:05:28 AM, YYW wrote:
Do you feel like you need trigger warnings for stuff?

"NSFW" or "warning: graphic content" is just courtesy. That, together with the title, should give me enough information to decide whether to read the article or not.

Context determines the need for NSFW tags. If the article is on a forum dedicated to gory kitten rape porn, then obviously saying "NSFW" is redundant.

What good do you think trigger warnings render? What bad?

"Trigger warning" is similar in principle, but in practice is just a way of signalling to other SJWs. It's also tagged onto articles that aren't NSFW, which makes it unnecessary. Life is full of triggers, grow up and stop being a wuss.