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How Do I Know I'm Here Right Now?

HisFlyness
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5/25/2011 10:30:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
So last night I'm watching a baseball game in bed. It was on the West Coast and had gone to extra innings. At the end of the game, a player hit a walk off home run to win game. I was mad because I was pulling for the visiting team, and was thinking about what other teams in our division were doing, and how this ultimately was affecting our standings.

Then my girlfriend nudged me, I rolled over and looked at the ceiling, and at the blank TV, realizing that the game had ended two hours before with my team winning (in extra innings), and I had turned off the television before going asleep.

There seemed to have been a seamless transition between all of my sensory organs functioning normally and receiving all necessary inputs and all of those senses being shut down and becoming enveloped by internal processes that look, feel and seem real to me. How can I trust my sensory organs to be reliable when dreams seem just as reliable to that which I was and do trust?

I know Descartes had a similar problem once, something about looking into a fire and a piece of paper, and of course his whole "I Think Therefore I Am" notion. I'm definitely thinking, so I suppose I'm definitely being, but how can I KNOW with epistemological certainty that I'm at a computer, or in my apartment or anything else I could know about me and my being right now? Is there anything other than our sensory organs upon which we can rely to know this or anything?
"Not All Those Who Wander Are Lost." - Tolkein...or Babe Ruth. One of those guys.
mattrodstrom
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5/25/2011 11:45:22 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/25/2011 10:30:13 AM, HisFlyness wrote:
how can I KNOW with epistemological certainty that I'm at a computer, or in my apartment or anything else I could know about me and my being right now?

You can't beyond it very much seeming to be the case.

just accept it, and take things as they come.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

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"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
tvellalott
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5/31/2011 11:23:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Punch yourself in the face...
If it hurts, you're really real.
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CosmicAlfonzo
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5/31/2011 11:26:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Epistemological certainty. Bwahahahaha!

Your heads a gonna be spinnin'. It's good for you though, builds character.
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Illegalcombatant
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6/1/2011 1:59:23 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
How do you know that your not just a brain in a vat ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
medic0506
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6/2/2011 10:53:27 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/25/2011 10:30:13 AM, HisFlyness wrote:
So last night I'm watching a baseball game in bed. It was on the West Coast and had gone to extra innings. At the end of the game, a player hit a walk off home run to win game. I was mad because I was pulling for the visiting team, and was thinking about what other teams in our division were doing, and how this ultimately was affecting our standings.

Then my girlfriend nudged me, I rolled over and looked at the ceiling, and at the blank TV, realizing that the game had ended two hours before with my team winning (in extra innings), and I had turned off the television before going asleep.

There seemed to have been a seamless transition between all of my sensory organs functioning normally and receiving all necessary inputs and all of those senses being shut down and becoming enveloped by internal processes that look, feel and seem real to me. How can I trust my sensory organs to be reliable when dreams seem just as reliable to that which I was and do trust?

I know Descartes had a similar problem once, something about looking into a fire and a piece of paper, and of course his whole "I Think Therefore I Am" notion. I'm definitely thinking, so I suppose I'm definitely being, but how can I KNOW with epistemological certainty that I'm at a computer, or in my apartment or anything else I could know about me and my being right now? Is there anything other than our sensory organs upon which we can rely to know this or anything?

Think about it later when you're not high.