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Deathbeforedishonour
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3/8/2012 12:57:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I am now looking to study Marxism/Communism. Can anyone here give me a list of good books and essays to start with except for the Communist Manifesto (Ialready read it). Please and Thank You.
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3/8/2012 1:05:17 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
long one:
Capital (Das Kapital) by Karl Marx.

It's a long theoretical background about his theory. Haven't read it though.
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3/8/2012 2:50:52 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/8/2012 1:05:17 AM, darkkermit wrote:
long one:
Capital (Das Kapital) by Karl Marx.

It's a long theoretical background about his theory. Haven't read it though.

Not philsopher in my eyes. his is part of the continentil philososphy where they just makes up anything they want out of nothing. Its part of the greek style which is argue for.
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3/8/2012 3:06:12 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/8/2012 2:50:52 AM, The_Fool_on_the_hill wrote:
At 3/8/2012 1:05:17 AM, darkkermit wrote:
long one:
Capital (Das Kapital) by Karl Marx.

It's a long theoretical background about his theory. Haven't read it though.

Not philsopher in my eyes. his is part of the continentil philososphy where they just makes up anything they want out of nothing. Its part of the greek style which is argue for.

Do not read Das Kapital. Read Marx: A Very Short Introduction by Singer. It's a great introduction to Marx that is very accessible.
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3/8/2012 3:41:29 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/8/2012 3:06:12 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 3/8/2012 2:50:52 AM, The_Fool_on_the_hill wrote:
At 3/8/2012 1:05:17 AM, darkkermit wrote:
long one:
Capital (Das Kapital) by Karl Marx.

It's a long theoretical background about his theory. Haven't read it though.

Not philsopher in my eyes. his is part of the continentil philososphy where they just makes up anything they want out of nothing. Its part of the greek style which is argue for.

Do not read Das Kapital. Read Marx: A Very Short Introduction by Singer. It's a great introduction to Marx that is very accessible.

I have took a course in marx.. and the whole is that there is no foundation. like most contentinental philsophy it is mostly just a bunch of bold assertion. There is no reason to think that everything is about material production, that come out of know where. and everthing rest on that.
"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL
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3/8/2012 11:06:11 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/8/2012 12:57:20 AM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
I am now looking to study Marxism/Communism. Can anyone here give me a list of good books and essays to start with except for the Communist Manifesto (Ialready read it). Please and Thank You.

So you've got conservative, paleo-libertarian, classic liberal, and anarchist on your resume of former positions. Looking to add Marxism?
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3/8/2012 4:55:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/8/2012 12:57:20 AM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
I am now looking to study Marxism/Communism. Can anyone here give me a list of good books and essays to start with except for the Communist Manifesto (Ialready read it). Please and Thank You.

While I can't recommend specifics, be careful to differentiate between Marxism as a methodology (dialectical materialism) and Marxism as an ideology (variants like communism). You'll find a majority of critics on this thread say Marxism is uninteresting but only refer to the ideology.

Marxism as an ideology says we ought to have communism. Marxism as a methodology says communism is the inevitable product of capitalism no matter who wants it.

The ideology itself is not horribly interesting. The interesting parts of Marx are how he uses the lens of class warfare and ownership of production to analyze world events in such a way that communism is the inevitable byproduct. His work on "species being" and separating man from his labor also isn't too interesting.
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3/8/2012 4:59:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/8/2012 3:41:29 AM, The_Fool_on_the_hill wrote:
At 3/8/2012 3:06:12 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 3/8/2012 2:50:52 AM, The_Fool_on_the_hill wrote:
At 3/8/2012 1:05:17 AM, darkkermit wrote:
long one:
Capital (Das Kapital) by Karl Marx.

It's a long theoretical background about his theory. Haven't read it though.

Not philsopher in my eyes. his is part of the continentil philososphy where they just makes up anything they want out of nothing. Its part of the greek style which is argue for.

Do not read Das Kapital. Read Marx: A Very Short Introduction by Singer. It's a great introduction to Marx that is very accessible.

I have took a course in marx.. and the whole is that there is no foundation. like most contentinental philsophy it is mostly just a bunch of bold assertion. There is no reason to think that everything is about material production, that come out of know where. and everthing rest on that.

It's an analytical lens. You may as well as give the same damnation to realism and neoliberalism theories of International Relations.
socialpinko
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3/8/2012 5:38:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
http://www.sussex.ac.uk...

Pretty sure this MUST include everything ever written about Marxism.
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3/8/2012 8:34:32 PM
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At 3/8/2012 3:41:29 AM, The_Fool_on_the_hill wrote:
At 3/8/2012 3:06:12 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 3/8/2012 2:50:52 AM, The_Fool_on_the_hill wrote:
At 3/8/2012 1:05:17 AM, darkkermit wrote:
long one:
Capital (Das Kapital) by Karl Marx.

It's a long theoretical background about his theory. Haven't read it though.

Not philsopher in my eyes. his is part of the continentil philososphy where they just makes up anything they want out of nothing. Its part of the greek style which is argue for.

Do not read Das Kapital. Read Marx: A Very Short Introduction by Singer. It's a great introduction to Marx that is very accessible.

I have took a course in marx.. and the whole is that there is no foundation. like most contentinental philsophy it is mostly just a bunch of bold assertion. There is no reason to think that everything is about material production, that come out of know where. and everthing rest on that.

What is the compelling reason to believe that Objectivism or Platonic ideas are most important?

Marxism resides in the realm of political philosophy.
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3/8/2012 8:40:14 PM
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At 3/8/2012 11:06:11 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/8/2012 12:57:20 AM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
I am now looking to study Marxism/Communism. Can anyone here give me a list of good books and essays to start with except for the Communist Manifesto (Ialready read it). Please and Thank You.

So you've got conservative, paleo-libertarian, classic liberal, and anarchist on your resume of former positions. Looking to add Marxism?

Nooo uhh if you take a look at all of those they have the samething in common. Each one has the same economic policy but disagree with how much power to give the state. Obviously I don't want to give that much power to the state over economic issues so that rules out Marxism. I just want to know enemy a little more. :P
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Matthew 10:22- "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."
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3/8/2012 8:48:44 PM
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At 3/8/2012 8:40:14 PM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
At 3/8/2012 11:06:11 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/8/2012 12:57:20 AM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
I am now looking to study Marxism/Communism. Can anyone here give me a list of good books and essays to start with except for the Communist Manifesto (Ialready read it). Please and Thank You.

So you've got conservative, paleo-libertarian, classic liberal, and anarchist on your resume of former positions. Looking to add Marxism?

Nooo uhh if you take a look at all of those they have the samething in common. Each one has the same economic policy but disagree with how much power to give the state. Obviously I don't want to give that much power to the state over economic issues so that rules out Marxism. I just want to know enemy a little more. :P

Whatever you say. When I first joined the site I didn't think I would ever abandon socialism or become an anarchist, definitely not both. But here we are.
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3/8/2012 9:22:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/8/2012 8:48:44 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/8/2012 8:40:14 PM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
At 3/8/2012 11:06:11 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/8/2012 12:57:20 AM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
I am now looking to study Marxism/Communism. Can anyone here give me a list of good books and essays to start with except for the Communist Manifesto (Ialready read it). Please and Thank You.

So you've got conservative, paleo-libertarian, classic liberal, and anarchist on your resume of former positions. Looking to add Marxism?

Nooo uhh if you take a look at all of those they have the samething in common. Each one has the same economic policy but disagree with how much power to give the state. Obviously I don't want to give that much power to the state over economic issues so that rules out Marxism. I just want to know enemy a little more. :P

Whatever you say. When I first joined the site I didn't think I would ever abandon socialism or become an anarchist, definitely not both. But here we are.

Yeah lol.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." ~ John 1:1

Matthew 10:22- "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."
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3/9/2012 2:08:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Read Marx's Capital. You can supplement that with some contemporary Marxists, I personally like Frederic Jameson, but that may be my bias for literary studies.

Also, you may want to check out David Harvey's lectures online on Marx: http://davidharvey.org...
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3/9/2012 3:39:58 PM
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At 3/8/2012 8:48:44 PM, socialpinko wrote:

Whatever you say. When I first joined the site I didn't think I would ever abandon socialism or become an anarchist, definitely not both. But here we are.
No member has ever remained socialist on DDO for longer than 18 months. You're not unique and hardly the first.

It happens to left-authoritarians too. It has been this way for over 2 years.

conservative, paleo-libertarian, classic liberal, and anarchist
are all closely related. They all economically right and, with context, minarchist.
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3/9/2012 3:50:50 PM
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Das Kapital is required reading. An anthology of collected essays helps*, especially when evaluating Marxist sociology and economy.

What I suggest is a highly esteemed evaluation/inquiry into Marxism. Karl Marx by Isaiah Berlin is a western classic.

*Economic and Philosophical manuscripts, Wage, Labour and Capital, Preface to the critique of Political economy
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