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MouthWash
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7/4/2012 11:52:44 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Oh, not again. The singularity cultists are on par with creationists in my opinion...
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7/4/2012 1:17:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/4/2012 11:52:44 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Oh, not again. The singularity cultists are on par with creationists in my opinion...

Why is that? Isn't limitless expansion where we're going if we don't all die first?
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7/4/2012 3:11:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Such singularities of technology are nothing compared to singularities of mind like language. For another true singularity, one must break down their lingual understanding and build it back up again.
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7/5/2012 6:07:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/4/2012 1:17:04 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 7/4/2012 11:52:44 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Oh, not again. The singularity cultists are on par with creationists in my opinion...

Why is that? Isn't limitless expansion where we're going if we don't all die first?

"It can't continue forever. The nature of exponentials is that you push them out and eventually disaster happens." -Gordon Moore
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7/5/2012 6:54:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Surely him calling it a singularity negates the fact it's a singularity. Under Black Swan Theory anyhow, I'm assuming when he talks a singularity he's talking of something such as a black swan. When he talks of the Singularity of Language is he not talking about the high impact of the use of language. And it's high impact has something to do with it's unpredictability. The fact that he has predicted it or is speaking about it would affect this negatively!
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7/5/2012 9:54:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/4/2012 11:52:44 AM, MouthWash wrote:
Oh, not again. The singularity cultists are on par with creationists in my opinion...

His point is that technology is increasing to the point of a new singularity on par with human language. I don't think technology will increase as fast as is predicted, but perhaps x^1.3.
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7/12/2012 6:12:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I am a firm beliwr that if we do not blow ourselves up first, or are wiped out by a cataclysm, we will eventually be replaced by intelligent machines as the dominant lifeforms(obviously using a liberal definotion of life) on this planet.
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7/14/2012 5:55:23 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Kewl.

This guy is good, I suspect he will pose a threat to Scientology.
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7/14/2012 6:57:44 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/6/2012 1:52:11 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
His stuff is really interesting to watch, and he is really passionate.
http://thisisjasonsilva.com...

Holy crap, it's beyond interesting, and I always admire passion like that, his videos are like a mind expanding intellectual drug or something, you gotta love this guy....thanks for the introduction.
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7/14/2012 7:01:13 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/9/2012 4:10:03 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
This guy's a cult leader.

I've got no plans yo become a starry eyed, new age bliss bunny any time soon, but I can sure see why he's got a cult following....he is really really good at what he does.

Thanks again.
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7/14/2012 7:04:09 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/12/2012 6:12:40 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
I am a firm beliwr that if we do not blow ourselves up first, or are wiped out by a cataclysm, we will eventually be replaced by intelligent machines as the dominant lifeforms(obviously using a liberal definotion of life) on this planet.

I doubt that, have you ever read Tielhard deChardin?

Maybe Tielhard's Noosphere, but I don't think we're a machine and so I don't see us being replaced by our machines.
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7/14/2012 12:28:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
While technology has obviously grown at an exponential rate I don't think it is as big of a deal as he thinks it is.

If you think about it technology has always been growing at an exponential rate.

How do you think people born in the late 1700s saw the completion of the transcontinental railroad, the telegraph, conventional power etc in the last years of their life during the mid to late 1800s? They must have thought technology was exploding. Well, it always sort of has been.

I agree, computer tech is expanding rapidly but I don't think its going to change our humanity like this guy thinks.