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9/20/2012 2:01:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'd like to present the topic of stealing and its morality. Is it morally wrong to steal? Why is it morally wrong to steal? In reality is not everything stolen in one form or another from someone else? What makes something belong to someone? Because they say so? Because they "worked" for it? How many millions of people work for something and don't obtain it?

You have two people, both with the same exact skills and experience. These two people go to apply for a job. One gets it, the other does not. Essentially in a way, the winner "stole" the job from the loser.

So, how does this differ from anything else. What makes the millions that the rich hold onto not stolen from the poor? And further more what makes anything belong to anyone? In nature animals take what they need. If they happen to need what another animal has and they have no other option, they take it. It's nature is it not? And until humanity discovers a way to establish absolute inequality amongst themselves there will always be theft. In reality the laws we have against theft establish one thing: Greed. They allow for greed to breed and grow and they allow the rich to hold onto their stolen wealth.

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9/20/2012 2:59:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Concepts are only real concerning their practical usefulness towards arbitrary goals.

Ownership, in it's most naturally arising form, is simply a reflection of something being used the most by a certain person or group of persons and applying a general entitlement to those things for that person or persons. This is practical, on a certain level, for normal human goals concerning the use of objects and acquiring peaceful relations between people.

The point at which the application of strict property deviates from such practical ends is the point at which "stealing", negation of such applied principles, becomes "justified".

There are different cases to be made that such a point does or doesn't exist.
& Grand Poobah of DDO