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10/4/2012 2:14:24 PM
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What is the purpose of living? Why must we be born into a world of stress, hate, and sickness only to die in 50+ years? What is the point of any kind of life?
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10/4/2012 2:41:32 PM
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There is none.

/thread
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10/4/2012 3:31:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 2:14:24 PM, Jordan56 wrote:
What is the purpose of living? Why must we be born into a world of stress, hate, and sickness only to die in 50+ years? What is the point of any kind of life?

The purpose of life is to end.
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10/4/2012 4:03:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 2:14:24 PM, Jordan56 wrote:
What is the purpose of living? Why must we be born into a world of stress, hate, and sickness only to die in 50+ years? What is the point of any kind of life?

I sometimes imagine an alien world where evolution takes place, from a simple replicator to sentient beings.

Then I think of one such alien staring up into the stars and asking why he and his race must be born into a world of stress, hate, and sickness only to die some years later. What is the purpose of living? What is the point of any kind of life?
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10/4/2012 4:56:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 2:14:24 PM, Jordan56 wrote:
What is the purpose of living? Why must we be born into a world of stress, hate, and sickness only to die in 50+ years? What is the point of any kind of life?

It takes a long time to realize that there is no point to life beyond life itself, and living it in the best way possible, as each person defines 'best' for themselves. The curious thing about humanity, and humans -specifically- is that they are existentially guilty, meaning that by the very act of living, one beckons closer to death with each passing second. That is a reality that some never realize and which many have interpreted in various ways, but what resounds is that a good life in this world is the thing to be pursued. The problem is figuring out what that means for you. Many people of faith of various kinds dedicate their lives to their god, whomever that god may be, in search of validation from something greater than man. Nietzsche makes no room even for the potentiality of the existence of a god, but rather traces the genealogy of how the idea of what some consider to be god came to manifest. I assert that Nietzsche is the ultimate test of faith, though that is only my opinion... but I digress.

The challenge is in discovering what "good" means to each of us individually. Some philosophers assert that to be good means to affirm the self, meaning that if you enjoy drunken revelry that is what you should do because it makes you happy. Others would say that if there are things you wish to accomplish, do or strive towards, those are the things your efforts ought to be focused on, precisely because it is the pursuit of happiness (not pleasure, mind you) that is what we are purposed for.

For me, self affirmation is learning and writing. It is thinking about things, considering them, and seeking the best answer or crafting the best, tightest and most solid argument possible (and reducing those that I consider to be wanting of intelectual integrity). That means reading, thinking, considering and learning -but I'm an outlier and that's not always the case. There are times that I -really- need to do work with my hands. Roofing jobs are always easy to come by.

The point is that you have to figure out what you want in life and work towards it to the extent that doing so fulfills you. Most importantly though, to find fulfillment and validation there can be no self denial. If you are gay, be the best homosexual you can possibly be. The Great Philospher Brian Kenny might have some thoughts on that. If you are not male, perhaps proving yourself in a man's world might be something that you might want. If you are not white, perhaps striving towards universal racial equality is something you might aspire to. The point is that you have to do something you love, but to figure out what you love, you need to try a wide range of things. One never found their calling in their mother's basement or at an XBOX 360. I hear those things are going to be banned in the United States soon anyway...

High School and College may be the time to realize one's potential, or it may not. There was a brilliant op-ed in the New York Times not too long ago about following one's passion in life, wherever (or regardless of what profession) that passion may lead you to. Perhaps you want to be a data analyst because mathematics speaks to your heart and soul. I've known people like that. Perhaps you want to write trashy teen fiction (like the author of twilight) or housewife pseudo-porn (like 50 shades of gray). Perhaps you might like to own a restaurant or act on broadway. Perhaps you want to bartend or play jazz or teach economics. Perhaps you might even want to be a professor, get a Ph. D. and live our your days in the glory of academia. It's not a bad path to take.

It's all up to you. Make of your life whatever you want to make of it, but do things that will enable you to find out what you want.
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10/4/2012 5:00:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 2:41:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
There is none.

/thread

^This.
There's no inherent value to life, nor should there be.
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10/4/2012 5:21:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 2:41:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
There is none.

/thread

Is the thread really over if people keep reposting this? Anyway, this.
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10/4/2012 5:38:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 5:21:31 PM, Maikuru wrote:
At 10/4/2012 2:41:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
There is none.

/thread

Is the thread really over if people keep reposting this? Anyway, this.

Repost.
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10/4/2012 6:01:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 5:00:58 PM, Mystical wrote:
At 10/4/2012 2:41:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
There is none.

/thread

^This.
There's no inherent value to life, nor should there be.

The question was not wether there was any INHERENT value to life, but wether there was any value at all. Two different questions, but I'm sure you (all) overlooked that little detail.

Fools.
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10/4/2012 6:03:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 2:41:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
There is none.

/thread

You're wrong.

/thread
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10/4/2012 7:00:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
To worship R'hllor and defeat the Great Other, am I right, Popculturepooka? :p

There is no purpose to life. It's meaningless and evil.
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10/4/2012 7:02:19 PM
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At 10/4/2012 7:01:05 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
I would posit that nonexistence is preferable to existence.

Whatever makes you feel better.
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10/4/2012 7:04:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 6:03:53 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/4/2012 2:41:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
There is none.

/thread

You're wrong.

/thread

no he isn't.

/thread
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10/4/2012 7:06:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 7:04:55 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 10/4/2012 6:03:53 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/4/2012 2:41:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
There is none.

/thread

You're wrong.

/thread

no he isn't.

/thread

Yes, he is.

/thread
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10/4/2012 7:06:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 7:04:55 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 10/4/2012 6:03:53 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/4/2012 2:41:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
There is none.

/thread

You're wrong.

/thread

no he isn't.

/thread

Depends on the scope.

Biologically, purpose of life is to fvck everything in sight and make babies, for example.
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10/4/2012 7:11:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 7:00:50 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
To worship R'hllor and defeat the Great Other, am I right, Popculturepooka? :p


What is dead may never die but rises again harder and stronger.

;)

Waitaminute....
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10/4/2012 7:21:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 6:03:53 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/4/2012 2:41:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
There is none.

/thread

You're wrong.

/thread

Meh, I think of it as a pretty simple matter. Barring some transcendental other-world or deity I can't see what any higher "point" could be. I mean obviously we function in a way that brings about certain ends i.e., screwing and dying but I don't think that's what the OP meant "point of life" to signify. If we want to go look into meaning-driven philosophies we can talk about absurdism or existentialism but the "meaning" they inscribe are synthetic and again, I don't think that's the way the OP was geared toward.
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10/4/2012 7:27:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 2:14:24 PM, Jordan56 wrote:
What is the purpose of living? Why must we be born into a world of stress, hate, and sickness only to die in 50+ years? What is the point of any kind of life?

You're here, there's nothing you can do about it, except die. But that's a waste isn't it? You're here, you might as well enjoy it, eh?
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10/4/2012 7:43:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 7:11:57 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/4/2012 7:00:50 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
To worship R'hllor and defeat the Great Other, am I right, Popculturepooka? :p


What is dead may never die but rises again harder and stronger.

;)

Waitaminute....

LOOOL
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10/4/2012 8:18:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 7:44:00 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Pooka, you should stop worshiping your false Drowned God. The night is dark and full of terrors.

Pshh, I'll pay the iron price.
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10/4/2012 8:50:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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10/5/2012 8:42:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/4/2012 2:14:24 PM, Jordan56 wrote:
What is the purpose of living? Why must we be born into a world of stress, hate, and sickness only to die in 50+ years? What is the point of any kind of life?

Well, if it is your belief that all things evolved spontaneously there is no point to your life. Your just a collection of atoms taking up space in particular order and concentration. Anything you think or do is of no consequence in the big scheme of chaos and eveolution

If you believe you were created and your exsistance serves a specific purpose then you should look at all the suffering and learning you do during this life will all have value and meaning when you die. Do good things and the right things and it will pay off. Do bad things and the wrong things and you will suffer even more, even after you die. That is what I believe. If I didn't I would most assuredly kill myself where I sit right this minute. Why put up with any of this moronic stupid crap I put up with on a daily bases. I do it because I believe it will prepare me for the next stage of my eternal life.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

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10/6/2012 9:27:46 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/5/2012 8:42:23 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 10/4/2012 2:14:24 PM, Jordan56 wrote:
What is the purpose of living? Why must we be born into a world of stress, hate, and sickness only to die in 50+ years? What is the point of any kind of life?

Well, if it is your belief that all things evolved spontaneously there is no point to your life. Your just a collection of atoms taking up space in particular order and concentration. Anything you think or do is of no consequence in the big scheme of chaos and eveolution

If you believe you were created and your exsistance serves a specific purpose then you should look at all the suffering and learning you do during this life will all have value and meaning when you die. Do good things and the right things and it will pay off. Do bad things and the wrong things and you will suffer even more, even after you die. That is what I believe. If I didn't I would most assuredly kill myself where I sit right this minute. Why put up with any of this moronic stupid crap I put up with on a daily bases. I do it because I believe it will prepare me for the next stage of my eternal life.

Do you really believe that the only reason you do good things is because of an expectation of a payoff after death? You don't think it's just a matter of your nature to do good things?

Are you saying you would be doing bad things if you didn't believe in an afterlife?

I find that hard to believe.
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