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falconduler
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11/10/2012 5:13:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/10/2012 5:10:02 PM, falconduler wrote:
where does human understanding come from?

can you describe the color red?
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11/10/2012 5:14:18 PM
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We exist because of evolution. We exist because we are born from our counterparts. Pregnancy. Growth. Development. Reproduction. ALL part of HUMAN UNDERSTANDING.
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11/10/2012 5:23:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/10/2012 5:14:18 PM, SeniorIntelligentDebator wrote:
We exist because of evolution. We exist because we are born from our counterparts. Pregnancy. Growth. Development. Reproduction. ALL part of HUMAN UNDERSTANDING.

everything in nature serves a purpose.. what is man's purpose? do you have a purpose? if so what is it.
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11/10/2012 5:30:48 PM
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My purpose in life is to troll debate.org
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11/10/2012 5:32:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/10/2012 5:30:48 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
My purpose in life is to troll debate.org

get a life bro.
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11/10/2012 5:32:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
To seriously answer the question though, man used to have a purpose but it has since turned into the opposite.
Beliefs in a nutshell:
- The Ends never justify the Means.
- Objectivity is secondary to subjectivity.
- The War on Drugs is the worst policy in the U.S.
- Most people worship technology as a religion.
- Computers will never become sentient.
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11/10/2012 5:56:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/10/2012 5:13:56 PM, falconduler wrote:
At 11/10/2012 5:10:02 PM, falconduler wrote:
where does human understanding come from?

can you describe the color red?

Existence has no reason. Our consciousness is a product of purely physical events. We are biological automatons.

It is my understanding that red is ineffable because it is an evolutionary simplification of extremely complex information. Daniel Dennett likens it to the secret code the Rosenburgs used to spy on Americans during the cold war. They would rip a piece of cardboard in 2 pieces. The edges, frays, and contours of the ripped pieces are so specific that they are virtually inimitable...and each is a perfect fit for the other. If asked to describe the shape of those ripped edges, it would be difficult to describe due to its "informational complexity"...so the holder just points to it and says "this is what it looks like". That said, the color red is natures way of saying "this is what it looks like"....rather than describing every single detail of the extremely complex stimulant. That is why you can't describe or define the color red.
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11/11/2012 12:10:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/10/2012 5:13:56 PM, falconduler wrote:
At 11/10/2012 5:10:02 PM, falconduler wrote:
where does human understanding come from?

can you describe the color red?

Red is what our empirical tools (eyes) translate certain types of light to appear as. The concept of red is dependent of an agent with the correct empirical tools to perceive it as such.
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11/11/2012 12:15:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Describe patchouli.
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- The Ends never justify the Means.
- Objectivity is secondary to subjectivity.
- The War on Drugs is the worst policy in the U.S.
- Most people worship technology as a religion.
- Computers will never become sentient.
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11/11/2012 1:22:29 PM
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My purpose is to die. All suffering ends with death.
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11/11/2012 1:47:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/10/2012 5:23:06 PM, falconduler wrote:
At 11/10/2012 5:14:18 PM, SeniorIntelligentDebator wrote:
We exist because of evolution. We exist because we are born from our counterparts. Pregnancy. Growth. Development. Reproduction. ALL part of HUMAN UNDERSTANDING.

everything in nature serves a purpose.. what is man's purpose? do you have a purpose? if so what is it.

Prove it.
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11/11/2012 2:27:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/10/2012 5:23:06 PM, falconduler wrote:
At 11/10/2012 5:14:18 PM, SeniorIntelligentDebator wrote:
We exist because of evolution. We exist because we are born from our counterparts. Pregnancy. Growth. Development. Reproduction. ALL part of HUMAN UNDERSTANDING.

everything in nature serves a purpose.. what is man's purpose? do you have a purpose? if so what is it.

Everything has a purpose? This is news to me.
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11/11/2012 10:22:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/10/2012 5:10:02 PM, falconduler wrote:
where does human understanding come from?

I like to think that I exist to irritate the crap out of other people through the use of direct and blunt sarcastic parody and create things from nothing. Not necessarily in that order.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

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11/12/2012 4:26:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/10/2012 5:10:02 PM, falconduler wrote:
where does human understanding come from?
Nature, and Nature's God.

can you describe the color red?
It's light at approximately 400 ~ 480 THz with a wavelength of 620~740 nm.

everything in nature serves a purpose.
Purpose is given by the observing mind.

what is man's purpose?
Whatever man wishes it to be.

do you have a purpose?
Yes.

if so what is it.
To accumulate and disseminate knowledge.
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: At 10/3/2012 4:28:52 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
: Without nothing existing, you couldn't have something.
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11/12/2012 5:14:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/10/2012 5:10:02 PM, falconduler wrote:
where does human understanding come from?

Interesting that you would attach this question to the title.

I think they answer each other.
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11/12/2012 5:14:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/12/2012 4:26:29 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 11/10/2012 5:10:02 PM, falconduler wrote:
where does human understanding come from?
Nature, and Nature's God.

can you describe the color red?
It's light at approximately 400 ~ 480 THz with a wavelength of 620~740 nm.

everything in nature serves a purpose.
Purpose is given by the observing mind.

what is man's purpose?
Whatever man wishes it to be.

do you have a purpose?
Yes.

if so what is it.
To accumulate and disseminate knowledge.

This
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11/12/2012 8:42:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/12/2012 4:26:29 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 11/10/2012 5:10:02 PM, falconduler wrote:
where does human understanding come from?
Nature, and Nature's God.

can you describe the color red?
It's light at approximately 400 ~ 480 THz with a wavelength of 620~740 nm.

The Fool: Doesn't Answer the question, we can hallucinate and dream colors and/or light or darkness. When you examine Thz in itself naked from all illusions. You will recognize that it is of the LOGOS.

everything in nature serves a purpose.

Purpose is given by the observing mind.

The Fool: Then it follows the mind has purpose within it. For we cannot give something that we don't have already. And it shares with The Good, its more a matter of ignorance on how to achieve it, in its most efficient sense.

what is man's purpose?

The Fool: The Good in itself. Purpose is dependent on Intention, and intention is of Life in itself.

Whatever man wishes it to be.

The Fool: He can't be anything but himself.

do you have a purpose?
Yes.

if so what is it.
To accumulate and disseminate knowledge.

The Fool: That is knowledge of the Good! for the future. Might as well, we are going that way anyways, or at least that's the word from the hill. Take it for what its worth.

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11/13/2012 2:22:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/12/2012 8:42:54 PM, The_Fool_on_the_hill wrote:
At 11/12/2012 4:26:29 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 11/10/2012 5:10:02 PM, falconduler wrote:
where does human understanding come from?
Nature, and Nature's God.

can you describe the color red?
It's light at approximately 400 ~ 480 THz with a wavelength of 620~740 nm.

The Fool: Doesn't Answer the question, we can hallucinate and dream colors and/or light or darkness.
One can only hallucinate and dream based on one's experiences: if you never experienced (seen) colors, then you cannot hallucinate colors. Regardless, this is a non sequitur.

When you examine Thz in itself naked from all illusions. You will recognize that it is of the LOGOS.
Don't know how your obscure statement relates.

everything in nature serves a purpose.
Purpose is given by the observing mind.
The Fool: Then it follows the mind has purpose within it. For we cannot give something that we don't have already.
That is what I said: purpose originates in the mind.

And it shares with The Good, its more a matter of ignorance on how to achieve it, in its most efficient sense.
More incoherent ramblings.

what is man's purpose?
Whatever man wishes it to be.
The Fool: The Good in itself. Purpose is dependent on Intention, and intention is of Life in itself.
I think I said it more clearly.

The Fool: He can't be anything but himself.
Another non sequitur.

do you have a purpose?
Yes.
if so what is it.
To accumulate and disseminate knowledge.
The Fool: That is knowledge of the Good!
No, all knowledge.

..for the future. Might as well, we are going that way anyways, or at least that's the word from the hill. Take it for what its worth.
Not worth much to repeat someone else's points in broken incoherent language.
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: At 10/3/2012 4:28:52 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
: Without nothing existing, you couldn't have something.
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11/13/2012 3:19:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
The religious would say because gods or goddesses did it.

Atheists would say because of sheer accidents.

Nihilists would say, no reason.

And I say, I don't know, but I think God did it.
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11/13/2012 3:27:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Our sole purpose in this life is to worship Allah by following the teachings of the wondrous Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).
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11/13/2012 3:40:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/13/2012 3:27:08 PM, Ahmed.M wrote:
Our sole purpose in this life is to worship Allah by following the teachings of the wondrous Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).

That's strange, I know about 5.6 billion people that don't do that. Aren't we such a misguided and pitiful species. I have a wonderful idea, why don't we all adhere to Fundamentalist Islam and poor acid on our daughters' faces for talking to a guy, or shooting a girl in the face for trying to learn and support education for girls, or perform honor killings, or not allow women to drive.

We live to acquire knowledge, live a successful, moral life, and to enjoy the only life we have on this Earth.
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11/13/2012 4:42:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Why do you exist?

To crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
WOS
: At 10/3/2012 4:28:52 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
: Without nothing existing, you couldn't have something.
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11/14/2012 6:39:55 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/13/2012 3:27:08 PM, Ahmed.M wrote:
Our sole purpose in this life is to worship Allah by following the teachings of the wondrous Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).

This.

At 11/13/2012 3:40:06 PM, emj32 wrote:
That's strange, I know about 5.6 billion people that don't do that. Aren't we such a misguided and pitiful species. I have a wonderful idea, why don't we all adhere to Fundamentalist Islam and poor acid on our daughters' faces for talking to a guy, or shooting a girl in the face for trying to learn and support education for girls, or perform honor killings, or not allow women to drive.

This has nothing to do with Islam. This stuff is merely just about culture, and I would love it if you could point out where Islam preaches this. If you can't, then please just stop embarrassing yourself.