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3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.

When it comes to strength, there can be said to be 4 types of men. The first, and lowest, is the man with no strength, but is a braggart. Everyone sees through this man, and his insistence on being better than you leaves him utterly disliked. Insecurity rules this persons life. This kind of man is lucky to receive pity. The second man has strength, but is still a braggart. This man is above the former, because at least there's some justification for his bragging. Regardless, this man is hated. He's hated because he, too, feels the constant need to put himself above you. While he is strong, he lacks real confidence. This is why he puts you down. He is also insecure.
The third man is strong, but not a braggart. He doesn't feel the need to put himself above others, because he is confident in his strength and he knows he has it if he needs it. He feels no need to assert his dominance, because he is secure in it. The highest man, however, is one who has no strength, and is not a braggart. The former man was secure because he placed his confidence in his strength, but this man has no strength and yet is secure nonetheless. This man requires nothing to root his confidence in, and therefore he will never lose it. Unlike all the others, this man makes no comparison with himself to others. He doesn't hold his self-worth in his body.

This isn't to say that young men ought to let their bodies become as weak as possible so that they can be the highest man. That's not the point. The point is that the highest man is secure even when he has nothing over other men. It is good for young men to strengthen their bodies. There's no natural disadvantage, but eventually the body becomes old and weak, and if you rooted your self-esteem in your strength (or any youth-based qualities for that matter), then you will lose your confidence and become insecure. If you make no comparison between you and others, then your confidence is not predicated on them and you will be secure.
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4/1/2013 12:28:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.

When it comes to strength, there can be said to be 4 types of men. The first, and lowest, is the man with no strength, but is a braggart. Everyone sees through this man, and his insistence on being better than you leaves him utterly disliked. Insecurity rules this persons life. This kind of man is lucky to receive pity. The second man has strength, but is still a braggart. This man is above the former, because at least there's some justification for his bragging. Regardless, this man is hated. He's hated because he, too, feels the constant need to put himself above you. While he is strong, he lacks real confidence. This is why he puts you down. He is also insecure.
The third man is strong, but not a braggart. He doesn't feel the need to put himself above others, because he is confident in his strength and he knows he has it if he needs it. He feels no need to assert his dominance, because he is secure in it. The highest man, however, is one who has no strength, and is not a braggart. The former man was secure because he placed his confidence in his strength, but this man has no strength and yet is secure nonetheless. This man requires nothing to root his confidence in, and therefore he will never lose it. Unlike all the others, this man makes no comparison with himself to others. He doesn't hold his self-worth in his body.

This isn't to say that young men ought to let their bodies become as weak as possible so that they can be the highest man. That's not the point. The point is that the highest man is secure even when he has nothing over other men. It is good for young men to strengthen their bodies. There's no natural disadvantage, but eventually the body becomes old and weak, and if you rooted your self-esteem in your strength (or any youth-based qualities for that matter), then you will lose your confidence and become insecure. If you make no comparison between you and others, then your confidence is not predicated on them and you will be secure.

Of course, when you're talking about strength and boastfulness, you will have four types of men as you have listed, but there are more variables directly related to strength. For example, there are the strong that choose to help others with their strength and those that don't. So now we have have six kinds of people:

1. Weak, boastful
2. Strong, boastful, does not help others
3. Strong, not boastful, does not help others
4. Strong, boastful, helps others
5. Strong, not boastful, helps others
6. Weak, not boastful

And that's if you consider the weak unable to help others, which surely isn't true, so, really, you have eight kinds of people with this new variable.

Who knows how many sensible variables there would be to add. What's interesting is that you get an expanded spectrum when you add more variables with two possible outcomes. With only three variables, we have eight combinations, each with differing value.
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4/1/2013 10:09:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/31/2013 11:42:29 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I wish to lift myself up. And bring everyone else up with me.

Do you even lift?
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4/1/2013 10:10:32 PM
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At 3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.


Is that all you? That's inspired. It reminds me of Art of War.
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4/1/2013 10:12:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/1/2013 10:10:32 PM, Maikuru wrote:
At 3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.


Is that all you? That's inspired. It reminds me of Art of War.

As far as I know, but I have a pretty bad memory. At the very least, it's inspired by all the Taoist stuff I've read.
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4/1/2013 10:14:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/1/2013 12:28:06 AM, toolpot462 wrote:
At 3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.

When it comes to strength, there can be said to be 4 types of men. The first, and lowest, is the man with no strength, but is a braggart. Everyone sees through this man, and his insistence on being better than you leaves him utterly disliked. Insecurity rules this persons life. This kind of man is lucky to receive pity. The second man has strength, but is still a braggart. This man is above the former, because at least there's some justification for his bragging. Regardless, this man is hated. He's hated because he, too, feels the constant need to put himself above you. While he is strong, he lacks real confidence. This is why he puts you down. He is also insecure.
The third man is strong, but not a braggart. He doesn't feel the need to put himself above others, because he is confident in his strength and he knows he has it if he needs it. He feels no need to assert his dominance, because he is secure in it. The highest man, however, is one who has no strength, and is not a braggart. The former man was secure because he placed his confidence in his strength, but this man has no strength and yet is secure nonetheless. This man requires nothing to root his confidence in, and therefore he will never lose it. Unlike all the others, this man makes no comparison with himself to others. He doesn't hold his self-worth in his body.

This isn't to say that young men ought to let their bodies become as weak as possible so that they can be the highest man. That's not the point. The point is that the highest man is secure even when he has nothing over other men. It is good for young men to strengthen their bodies. There's no natural disadvantage, but eventually the body becomes old and weak, and if you rooted your self-esteem in your strength (or any youth-based qualities for that matter), then you will lose your confidence and become insecure. If you make no comparison between you and others, then your confidence is not predicated on them and you will be secure.

Of course, when you're talking about strength and boastfulness, you will have four types of men as you have listed, but there are more variables directly related to strength. For example, there are the strong that choose to help others with their strength and those that don't. So now we have have six kinds of people:

1. Weak, boastful
2. Strong, boastful, does not help others
3. Strong, not boastful, does not help others
4. Strong, boastful, helps others
5. Strong, not boastful, helps others
6. Weak, not boastful

And that's if you consider the weak unable to help others, which surely isn't true, so, really, you have eight kinds of people with this new variable.

Who knows how many sensible variables there would be to add. What's interesting is that you get an expanded spectrum when you add more variables with two possible outcomes. With only three variables, we have eight combinations, each with differing value.

The more factors you add, the more types of people you can end up with. For sure.
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4/1/2013 10:17:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/1/2013 10:09:10 PM, Maikuru wrote:
At 3/31/2013 11:42:29 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I wish to lift myself up. And bring everyone else up with me.

Do you even lift?

Finally, that's used in a context that actually makes sense.
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4/1/2013 11:00:40 PM
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At 3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.

When it comes to strength, there can be said to be 4 types of men.

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4/1/2013 11:04:34 PM
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At 4/1/2013 11:00:40 PM, The_Fool_on_the_hill wrote:
At 3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.

When it comes to strength, there can be said to be 4 types of men.

The Fool: There can be said to be anything that can be said.

Very true, but it's a shame to say it.
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4/1/2013 11:37:38 PM
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At 4/1/2013 10:14:27 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/1/2013 12:28:06 AM, toolpot462 wrote:
At 3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.

When it comes to strength, there can be said to be 4 types of men. The first, and lowest, is the man with no strength, but is a braggart. Everyone sees through this man, and his insistence on being better than you leaves him utterly disliked. Insecurity rules this persons life. This kind of man is lucky to receive pity. The second man has strength, but is still a braggart. This man is above the former, because at least there's some justification for his bragging. Regardless, this man is hated. He's hated because he, too, feels the constant need to put himself above you. While he is strong, he lacks real confidence. This is why he puts you down. He is also insecure.
The third man is strong, but not a braggart. He doesn't feel the need to put himself above others, because he is confident in his strength and he knows he has it if he needs it. He feels no need to assert his dominance, because he is secure in it. The highest man, however, is one who has no strength, and is not a braggart. The former man was secure because he placed his confidence in his strength, but this man has no strength and yet is secure nonetheless. This man requires nothing to root his confidence in, and therefore he will never lose it. Unlike all the others, this man makes no comparison with himself to others. He doesn't hold his self-worth in his body.

This isn't to say that young men ought to let their bodies become as weak as possible so that they can be the highest man. That's not the point. The point is that the highest man is secure even when he has nothing over other men. It is good for young men to strengthen their bodies. There's no natural disadvantage, but eventually the body becomes old and weak, and if you rooted your self-esteem in your strength (or any youth-based qualities for that matter), then you will lose your confidence and become insecure. If you make no comparison between you and others, then your confidence is not predicated on them and you will be secure.

Of course, when you're talking about strength and boastfulness, you will have four types of men as you have listed, but there are more variables directly related to strength. For example, there are the strong that choose to help others with their strength and those that don't. So now we have have six kinds of people:

1. Weak, boastful
2. Strong, boastful, does not help others
3. Strong, not boastful, does not help others
4. Strong, boastful, helps others
5. Strong, not boastful, helps others
6. Weak, not boastful

And that's if you consider the weak unable to help others, which surely isn't true, so, really, you have eight kinds of people with this new variable.

Who knows how many sensible variables there would be to add. What's interesting is that you get an expanded spectrum when you add more variables with two possible outcomes. With only three variables, we have eight combinations, each with differing value.

The more factors you add, the more types of people you can end up with. For sure.

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4/2/2013 9:20:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/1/2013 11:37:38 PM, The_Fool_on_the_hill wrote:
At 4/1/2013 10:14:27 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/1/2013 12:28:06 AM, toolpot462 wrote:
At 3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.

When it comes to strength, there can be said to be 4 types of men. The first, and lowest, is the man with no strength, but is a braggart. Everyone sees through this man, and his insistence on being better than you leaves him utterly disliked. Insecurity rules this persons life. This kind of man is lucky to receive pity. The second man has strength, but is still a braggart. This man is above the former, because at least there's some justification for his bragging. Regardless, this man is hated. He's hated because he, too, feels the constant need to put himself above you. While he is strong, he lacks real confidence. This is why he puts you down. He is also insecure.
The third man is strong, but not a braggart. He doesn't feel the need to put himself above others, because he is confident in his strength and he knows he has it if he needs it. He feels no need to assert his dominance, because he is secure in it. The highest man, however, is one who has no strength, and is not a braggart. The former man was secure because he placed his confidence in his strength, but this man has no strength and yet is secure nonetheless. This man requires nothing to root his confidence in, and therefore he will never lose it. Unlike all the others, this man makes no comparison with himself to others. He doesn't hold his self-worth in his body.

This isn't to say that young men ought to let their bodies become as weak as possible so that they can be the highest man. That's not the point. The point is that the highest man is secure even when he has nothing over other men. It is good for young men to strengthen their bodies. There's no natural disadvantage, but eventually the body becomes old and weak, and if you rooted your self-esteem in your strength (or any youth-based qualities for that matter), then you will lose your confidence and become insecure. If you make no comparison between you and others, then your confidence is not predicated on them and you will be secure.

Of course, when you're talking about strength and boastfulness, you will have four types of men as you have listed, but there are more variables directly related to strength. For example, there are the strong that choose to help others with their strength and those that don't. So now we have have six kinds of people:

1. Weak, boastful
2. Strong, boastful, does not help others
3. Strong, not boastful, does not help others
4. Strong, boastful, helps others
5. Strong, not boastful, helps others
6. Weak, not boastful

And that's if you consider the weak unable to help others, which surely isn't true, so, really, you have eight kinds of people with this new variable.

Who knows how many sensible variables there would be to add. What's interesting is that you get an expanded spectrum when you add more variables with two possible outcomes. With only three variables, we have eight combinations, each with differing value.

The more factors you add, the more types of people you can end up with. For sure.

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... what?
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4/2/2013 9:34:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/2/2013 9:20:57 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/1/2013 11:37:38 PM, The_Fool_on_the_hill wrote:


{(hint)(From)(the)(Hill)},{(Every)(word)(is)(a)(variable)},{(that)(is)(how)(language)(works)(!)}

Straight from the Hill. Bango!

... what?

This post of Fool's was actually the one that made the most sense of the ones of his I've read, actually.

On a side note, I read your post in Tuco's voice from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

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4/2/2013 5:12:46 PM
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At 3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.

When it comes to strength, there can be said to be 4 types of men. The first, and lowest, is the man with no strength, but is a braggart. Everyone sees through this man, and his insistence on being better than you leaves him utterly disliked. Insecurity rules this persons life. This kind of man is lucky to receive pity. The second man has strength, but is still a braggart. This man is above the former, because at least there's some justification for his bragging. Regardless, this man is hated. He's hated because he, too, feels the constant need to put himself above you. While he is strong, he lacks real confidence. This is why he puts you down. He is also insecure.
The third man is strong, but not a braggart. He doesn't feel the need to put himself above others, because he is confident in his strength and he knows he has it if he needs it. He feels no need to assert his dominance, because he is secure in it. The highest man, however, is one who has no strength, and is not a braggart. The former man was secure because he placed his confidence in his strength, but this man has no strength and yet is secure nonetheless. This man requires nothing to root his confidence in, and therefore he will never lose it. Unlike all the others, this man makes no comparison with himself to others. He doesn't hold his self-worth in his body.

This isn't to say that young men ought to let their bodies become as weak as possible so that they can be the highest man. That's not the point. The point is that the highest man is secure even when he has nothing over other men. It is good for young men to strengthen their bodies. There's no natural disadvantage, but eventually the body becomes old and weak, and if you rooted your self-esteem in your strength (or any youth-based qualities for that matter), then you will lose your confidence and become insecure. If you make no comparison between you and others, then your confidence is not predicated on them and you will be secure.

As a side note, it's interesting that you classify men based on their interactions with other males or beliefs about the self compared to other men.

Any idea how women could have a similar schema?
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4/2/2013 5:20:56 PM
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The lesson you are trying to explain is one that women would do well to learn as well.

Anecdotally, the women I have known who are old but were strikingly beautiful when they were young are more depressed and insecure and vain than the old women I've known who were plain all their lives. It is because the former women placed too much value on their fleeting looks instead of on the things about them which last- their character.
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4/2/2013 5:53:14 PM
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At 4/2/2013 5:20:56 PM, Oryus wrote:
The lesson you are trying to explain is one that women would do well to learn as well.

Anecdotally, the women I have known who are old but were strikingly beautiful when they were young are more depressed and insecure and vain than the old women I've known who were plain all their lives. It is because the former women placed too much value on their fleeting looks instead of on the things about them which last- their character.

Oryus, you're absolutely correct! =)
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4/2/2013 5:54:02 PM
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At 4/2/2013 5:12:46 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.

When it comes to strength, there can be said to be 4 types of men. The first, and lowest, is the man with no strength, but is a braggart. Everyone sees through this man, and his insistence on being better than you leaves him utterly disliked. Insecurity rules this persons life. This kind of man is lucky to receive pity. The second man has strength, but is still a braggart. This man is above the former, because at least there's some justification for his bragging. Regardless, this man is hated. He's hated because he, too, feels the constant need to put himself above you. While he is strong, he lacks real confidence. This is why he puts you down. He is also insecure.
The third man is strong, but not a braggart. He doesn't feel the need to put himself above others, because he is confident in his strength and he knows he has it if he needs it. He feels no need to assert his dominance, because he is secure in it. The highest man, however, is one who has no strength, and is not a braggart. The former man was secure because he placed his confidence in his strength, but this man has no strength and yet is secure nonetheless. This man requires nothing to root his confidence in, and therefore he will never lose it. Unlike all the others, this man makes no comparison with himself to others. He doesn't hold his self-worth in his body.

This isn't to say that young men ought to let their bodies become as weak as possible so that they can be the highest man. That's not the point. The point is that the highest man is secure even when he has nothing over other men. It is good for young men to strengthen their bodies. There's no natural disadvantage, but eventually the body becomes old and weak, and if you rooted your self-esteem in your strength (or any youth-based qualities for that matter), then you will lose your confidence and become insecure. If you make no comparison between you and others, then your confidence is not predicated on them and you will be secure.

As a side note, it's interesting that you classify men based on their interactions with other males or beliefs about the self compared to other men.

Any idea how women could have a similar schema?

Yup, but Oryus already covered it.
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4/2/2013 5:54:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/2/2013 9:34:59 AM, bladerunner060 wrote:
At 4/2/2013 9:20:57 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/1/2013 11:37:38 PM, The_Fool_on_the_hill wrote:


{(hint)(From)(the)(Hill)},{(Every)(word)(is)(a)(variable)},{(that)(is)(how)(language)(works)(!)}

Straight from the Hill. Bango!

... what?

This post of Fool's was actually the one that made the most sense of the ones of his I've read, actually.

On a side note, I read your post in Tuco's voice from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

"There are two kinds of people in the world, my friend: Those with a rope around the neck, and the people who have the job of doing the cutting."

Mmm, I haven't heard of that. Mind linking it?
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4/2/2013 7:27:21 PM
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At 4/2/2013 5:54:02 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/2/2013 5:12:46 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.

When it comes to strength, there can be said to be 4 types of men. The first, and lowest, is the man with no strength, but is a braggart. Everyone sees through this man, and his insistence on being better than you leaves him utterly disliked. Insecurity rules this persons life. This kind of man is lucky to receive pity. The second man has strength, but is still a braggart. This man is above the former, because at least there's some justification for his bragging. Regardless, this man is hated. He's hated because he, too, feels the constant need to put himself above you. While he is strong, he lacks real confidence. This is why he puts you down. He is also insecure.
The third man is strong, but not a braggart. He doesn't feel the need to put himself above others, because he is confident in his strength and he knows he has it if he needs it. He feels no need to assert his dominance, because he is secure in it. The highest man, however, is one who has no strength, and is not a braggart. The former man was secure because he placed his confidence in his strength, but this man has no strength and yet is secure nonetheless. This man requires nothing to root his confidence in, and therefore he will never lose it. Unlike all the others, this man makes no comparison with himself to others. He doesn't hold his self-worth in his body.

This isn't to say that young men ought to let their bodies become as weak as possible so that they can be the highest man. That's not the point. The point is that the highest man is secure even when he has nothing over other men. It is good for young men to strengthen their bodies. There's no natural disadvantage, but eventually the body becomes old and weak, and if you rooted your self-esteem in your strength (or any youth-based qualities for that matter), then you will lose your confidence and become insecure. If you make no comparison between you and others, then your confidence is not predicated on them and you will be secure.

As a side note, it's interesting that you classify men based on their interactions with other males or beliefs about the self compared to other men.

Any idea how women could have a similar schema?

Yup, but Oryus already covered it.

lol yeah, that was weird timing. I didn't even notice Wnope's question until after I had posted.
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4/2/2013 7:37:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/2/2013 7:27:21 PM, Oryus wrote:
At 4/2/2013 5:54:02 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/2/2013 5:12:46 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 3/31/2013 10:21:52 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Something I was thinking about earlier today about strength.

When it comes to strength, there can be said to be 4 types of men. The first, and lowest, is the man with no strength, but is a braggart. Everyone sees through this man, and his insistence on being better than you leaves him utterly disliked. Insecurity rules this persons life. This kind of man is lucky to receive pity. The second man has strength, but is still a braggart. This man is above the former, because at least there's some justification for his bragging. Regardless, this man is hated. He's hated because he, too, feels the constant need to put himself above you. While he is strong, he lacks real confidence. This is why he puts you down. He is also insecure.
The third man is strong, but not a braggart. He doesn't feel the need to put himself above others, because he is confident in his strength and he knows he has it if he needs it. He feels no need to assert his dominance, because he is secure in it. The highest man, however, is one who has no strength, and is not a braggart. The former man was secure because he placed his confidence in his strength, but this man has no strength and yet is secure nonetheless. This man requires nothing to root his confidence in, and therefore he will never lose it. Unlike all the others, this man makes no comparison with himself to others. He doesn't hold his self-worth in his body.

This isn't to say that young men ought to let their bodies become as weak as possible so that they can be the highest man. That's not the point. The point is that the highest man is secure even when he has nothing over other men. It is good for young men to strengthen their bodies. There's no natural disadvantage, but eventually the body becomes old and weak, and if you rooted your self-esteem in your strength (or any youth-based qualities for that matter), then you will lose your confidence and become insecure. If you make no comparison between you and others, then your confidence is not predicated on them and you will be secure.

As a side note, it's interesting that you classify men based on their interactions with other males or beliefs about the self compared to other men.

Any idea how women could have a similar schema?

Yup, but Oryus already covered it.

lol yeah, that was weird timing. I didn't even notice Wnope's question until after I had posted.

lol I love synchronicity.
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4/2/2013 8:20:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/2/2013 5:54:43 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/2/2013 9:34:59 AM, bladerunner060 wrote:
At 4/2/2013 9:20:57 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 4/1/2013 11:37:38 PM, The_Fool_on_the_hill wrote:


{(hint)(From)(the)(Hill)},{(Every)(word)(is)(a)(variable)},{(that)(is)(how)(language)(works)(!)}

Straight from the Hill. Bango!

... what?

This post of Fool's was actually the one that made the most sense of the ones of his I've read, actually.

On a side note, I read your post in Tuco's voice from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

"There are two kinds of people in the world, my friend: Those with a rope around the neck, and the people who have the job of doing the cutting."

Mmm, I haven't heard of that. Mind linking it?

It's the Spaghetti Western with Clint Eastwood?

I had to go through the whole movie to find it (I'm actually surprised the whole thing's on youtube)

https://www.youtube.com...

'bout 30 minutes in.
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