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suttichart.denpruektham
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4/18/2013 11:27:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Is perhaps, not possible to pursuit. when we have something we will want better and always end up unhappy. When we want nothing we will be bored and so unhappy nevertheless :D
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4/18/2013 11:35:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
This explains how I feel about it better than I ever could, I think:

"And a poet said, "Speak to us of Beauty."

Where shall you seek beauty, and how shall you find her unless she herself be your way and your guide?

And how shall you speak of her except she be the weaver of your speech?

The aggrieved and the injured say, "Beauty is kind and gentle.

Like a young mother half-shy of her own glory she walks among us."

And the passionate say, "Nay, beauty is a thing of might and dread.

Like the tempest she shakes the earth beneath us and the sky above us."

The tired and the weary say, "beauty is of soft whisperings. She speaks in our spirit.

Her voice yields to our silences like a faint light that quivers in fear of the shadow."

But the restless say, "We have heard her shouting among the mountains,

And with her cries came the sound of hoofs, and the beating of wings and the roaring of lions."

At night the watchmen of the city say, "Beauty shall rise with the dawn from the east."

And at noontide the toilers and the wayfarers say, "we have seen her leaning over the earth from the windows of the sunset."

In winter say the snow-bound, "She shall come with the spring leaping upon the hills."

And in the summer heat the reapers say, "We have seen her dancing with the autumn leaves, and we saw a drift of snow in her hair."

All these things have you said of beauty.

Yet in truth you spoke not of her but of needs unsatisfied,

And beauty is not a need but an ecstasy.

It is not a mouth thirsting nor an empty hand stretched forth,

But rather a heart enflamed and a soul enchanted.

It is not the image you would see nor the song you would hear,

But rather an image you see though you close your eyes and a song you hear though you shut your ears.

It is not the sap within the furrowed bark, nor a wing attached to a claw,

But rather a garden forever in bloom and a flock of angels for ever in flight.

People of Orphalese, beauty is life when life unveils her holy face.

But you are life and you are the veil.

Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror.

But you are eternity and you are the mirror."
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4/18/2013 11:38:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:27:18 PM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
Is perhaps, not possible to pursuit. when we have something we will want better and always end up unhappy. When we want nothing we will be bored and so unhappy nevertheless :D

Your use of "something" is too broad. Certain things - material goods, being the most prominent example - definitely follow this pattern. But the things that matter most in life do not. Consider things like personal achievements, self-improvements, family and friends, or charitable acts.
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4/19/2013 12:39:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
You could stop wanting things and do them anyway to entertain yourself and delight in the absurdity.
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4/19/2013 12:40:53 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:38:33 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:27:18 PM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
Is perhaps, not possible to pursuit. when we have something we will want better and always end up unhappy. When we want nothing we will be bored and so unhappy nevertheless :D

Your use of "something" is too broad. Certain things - material goods, being the most prominent example - definitely follow this pattern. But the things that matter most in life do not. Consider things like personal achievements, self-improvements, family and friends, or charitable acts.

It actually goes the same way to me. Material matter or self-actualisation both provide us the same stimulus: satisfaction. Problem is satisfaction itself is not constant, the more you have the more you want because whatever you have now will soon be boring and no longer satisfy you.
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4/19/2013 4:12:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Happiness is the carrot on a stick that's hanging in front of this Albinobunny's face, sometimes I get a nibble, but mostly it just motivates me to keep moving forward.
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4/19/2013 6:32:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/19/2013 4:12:48 AM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
Happiness is the carrot on a stick that's hanging in front of this Albinobunny's face, sometimes I get a nibble, but mostly it just motivates me to keep moving forward.

D

In reality you usually managed to get hold of it eventually but even so the carrot would keep you so long as you still want it more than a cabbage.

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4/19/2013 6:32:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:35:05 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
This explains how I feel about it better than I ever could, I think:

"And a poet said, "Speak to us of Beauty."

Where shall you seek beauty, and how shall you find her unless she herself be your way and your guide?

And how shall you speak of her except she be the weaver of your speech?

The aggrieved and the injured say, "Beauty is kind and gentle.

Like a young mother half-shy of her own glory she walks among us."

And the passionate say, "Nay, beauty is a thing of might and dread.

Like the tempest she shakes the earth beneath us and the sky above us."

The tired and the weary say, "beauty is of soft whisperings. She speaks in our spirit.

Her voice yields to our silences like a faint light that quivers in fear of the shadow."

But the restless say, "We have heard her shouting among the mountains,

And with her cries came the sound of hoofs, and the beating of wings and the roaring of lions."

At night the watchmen of the city say, "Beauty shall rise with the dawn from the east."

And at noontide the toilers and the wayfarers say, "we have seen her leaning over the earth from the windows of the sunset."

In winter say the snow-bound, "She shall come with the spring leaping upon the hills."

And in the summer heat the reapers say, "We have seen her dancing with the autumn leaves, and we saw a drift of snow in her hair."

All these things have you said of beauty.

Yet in truth you spoke not of her but of needs unsatisfied,

And beauty is not a need but an ecstasy.

It is not a mouth thirsting nor an empty hand stretched forth,

But rather a heart enflamed and a soul enchanted.

It is not the image you would see nor the song you would hear,

But rather an image you see though you close your eyes and a song you hear though you shut your ears.

It is not the sap within the furrowed bark, nor a wing attached to a claw,

But rather a garden forever in bloom and a flock of angels for ever in flight.

People of Orphalese, beauty is life when life unveils her holy face.

But you are life and you are the veil.

Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror.

But you are eternity and you are the mirror."
- Khalil Gibran -

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