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Apollo.11
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5/29/2013 10:35:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I know threads like this have been made in the past, but how should one go about approaching philosophy.

First, from the perpective of a novice having little no experience outside of Plato. What/who should one move on to? Any suggested works?

Second, from the perspective of someone (still a relative novice) looking for a comprehensive but not terribly in depth overview of the history of philosophical thought. I know Russell wrote a history of western philosophy, but is that the best place to start? And if so, is there a good supplementary overview of Nietzsche written by someone else to read?
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5/29/2013 10:39:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/29/2013 10:35:43 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
I know threads like this have been made in the past, but how should one go about approaching philosophy.

Read everything.

First, from the perpective of a novice having little no experience outside of Plato. What/who should one move on to? Any suggested works?

I've puzzled over this when I get people into philosophy. I started out reading Plato and religion related stuff. I dunno. There are a bunch of book series which explain philosophy through pop culture. The pop culture and philosophy series is pretty good for extreme novices.

Second, from the perspective of someone (still a relative novice) looking for a comprehensive but not terribly in depth overview of the history of philosophical thought. I know Russell wrote a history of western philosophy, but is that the best place to start? And if so, is there a good supplementary overview of Nietzsche written by someone else to read?

Nietzsche as Philosopher by I think Arthur Danto was interesting.
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5/29/2013 10:41:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Here is a pretty good overview of Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

http://www.philosophybro.com...
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5/29/2013 10:41:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Read anything you can get your hands on. Search around at the library, check out as many books as you can carry, and read them all. Go through journals of all kinds, researching anything you don't understand. You'll never know when something esoteric or unusual you read will come in handy.
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5/29/2013 10:41:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/29/2013 10:41:26 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
Read anything you can get your hands on. Search around at the library, check out as many books as you can carry, and read them all. Go through journals of all kinds, researching anything you don't understand. You'll never know when something esoteric or unusual you read will come in handy.

This. 1000 times this.
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5/29/2013 10:49:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/29/2013 10:41:09 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Here is a pretty good overview of Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

http://www.philosophybro.com...

Actually enjoyed the hell out of that.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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5/29/2013 11:30:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/29/2013 10:41:09 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Here is a pretty good overview of Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

http://www.philosophybro.com...

That site is hilarious! My favorite: http://www.philosophybro.com...
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Apollo.11
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5/29/2013 11:34:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/29/2013 10:41:09 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Here is a pretty good overview of Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

http://www.philosophybro.com...

did Nietzsche argue for epicureanism in a way?
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5/29/2013 11:38:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/29/2013 11:30:05 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 5/29/2013 10:41:09 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Here is a pretty good overview of Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

http://www.philosophybro.com...

That site is hilarious! My favorite: http://www.philosophybro.com...

Both are pretty funny. I've never seen this blog before, but it's pretty creative.
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5/29/2013 11:49:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'd get an anthology, like maybe something by Louis Pojman.

Try this one: http://www.amazon.com...
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5/30/2013 12:05:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/29/2013 11:49:09 PM, philochristos wrote:
I'd get an anthology, like maybe something by Louis Pojman.

Try this one: http://www.amazon.com...

No offense, I think your suggestion is a good one, but I'm not particularly motivated to look up a book when the only thing I know about it is the ISBN number.
At 8/9/2013 9:41:24 AM, wrichcirw wrote:
If you are civil with me, I will be civil to you. If you decide to bring unreasonable animosity to bear in a reasonable discussion, then what would you expect other than to get flustered?
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5/30/2013 12:06:20 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/30/2013 12:05:48 AM, wrichcirw wrote:
At 5/29/2013 11:49:09 PM, philochristos wrote:
I'd get an anthology, like maybe something by Louis Pojman.

Try this one: http://www.amazon.com...

No offense, I think your suggestion is a good one, but I'm not particularly motivated to look up a book when the only thing I know about it is the ISBN number.

Try this instead:
http://www.amazon.com...
At 8/9/2013 9:41:24 AM, wrichcirw wrote:
If you are civil with me, I will be civil to you. If you decide to bring unreasonable animosity to bear in a reasonable discussion, then what would you expect other than to get flustered?
philochristos
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5/30/2013 12:21:21 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/30/2013 12:05:48 AM, wrichcirw wrote:
At 5/29/2013 11:49:09 PM, philochristos wrote:
I'd get an anthology, like maybe something by Louis Pojman.

Try this one: http://www.amazon.com...

No offense, I think your suggestion is a good one, but I'm not particularly motivated to look up a book when the only thing I know about it is the ISBN number.

But my link gave you has the title, too. I linked to an older edition because it's cheaper, but all you have to do is search the title to find a newer edition, and you can read about it there.
"Not to know of what things one should demand demonstration, and of what one should not, argues want of education." ~Aristotle

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~Aristotle
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5/30/2013 7:59:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/29/2013 10:35:43 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
I know threads like this have been made in the past, but how should one go about approaching philosophy.

First, from the perpective of a novice having little no experience outside of Plato. What/who should one move on to? Any suggested works?

Second, from the perspective of someone (still a relative novice) looking for a comprehensive but not terribly in depth overview of the history of philosophical thought. I know Russell wrote a history of western philosophy, but is that the best place to start? And if so, is there a good supplementary overview of Nietzsche written by someone else to read?

Back up, what are you trying to achieve here ?

To know what "ideas" our at there ?

To develop critical thinking ?

To develop thinking outside the box ?

Infotainment ?
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