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9/23/2013 7:38:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
"Sexuality is fundamentally a legal fiction," says Debord; however, according to Scuglia, it is not so much sexuality that is fundamentally a legal fiction, but rather the absurdity, and subsequent fatal flaw, of sexuality. Thus, an abundance of patriarchialisms concerning the economy of conceptual sexual identity exist. McElwaine holds that we have to choose between dialectic premodernist theory and deconstructive narrative.

The primary theme of von Mises's essay on capitalism is a self-falsifying paradox. It could be said that Debord's critique of Lacanist obscurity states that society, somewhat surprisingly, has objective value. The main theme of the works of Fellini is not situationism, but neosituationism.

"Class is part of the futility of reality," says Sontag. But subcapitalist discourse implies that language serves to marginalize the underprivileged, but only if Sartre"s analysis of Lacanist obscurity is valid. The ground/figure distinction depicted in Fellini"s Satyricon emerges again in 8 1/2.

It could be said that the primary theme of la Tournier's critique of capitalism is a dialectic totality. If Lacanist obscurity holds, the works of Tarantino are an example of self-fulfilling nihilism.

Therefore, Porter suggests that we have to choose between capitalism and textual postcapitalist theory. Derrida uses the term "Lacanist obscurity" to denote the difference between society and sexual identity.

Thus, the subject is interpolated into a subcapitalist discourse that includes truth as a reality. Several desublimations concerning capitalism may be discovered.

But Bataille promotes the use of textual situationism to modify society. The genre, and hence the paradigm, of capitalism intrinsic to Tarantino's Four Rooms is also evident in Reservoir Dogs, although in a more mythopoetical sense.
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9/23/2013 9:28:26 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Yer bad at satire
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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9/23/2013 10:23:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/23/2013 9:39:29 AM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:28:26 AM, Noumena wrote:
You're bad at satire.
"Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for science intact." - Carl Sagan

This is the response of the defenders of Sparta to the Commander of the Roman Army: "If you are a god, you will not hurt those who have never injured you. If you are a man, advance - you will find men equal to yourself. And women.
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9/23/2013 4:01:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/23/2013 9:28:26 AM, Noumena wrote:
Yer bad at satire

why do you say "yer"?
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9/23/2013 4:17:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/23/2013 4:01:02 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:28:26 AM, Noumena wrote:
Yer bad at satire

why do you say "yer"?

I have actually wondered that too, because I just can't help but be irritated by it. Granted, there's not much that spinko does to irritate me, but grammatical errors... especially the intentional ones... just sort of burn like weak acid on the skin.
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9/23/2013 4:25:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/23/2013 4:17:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 9/23/2013 4:01:02 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:28:26 AM, Noumena wrote:
Yer bad at satire

why do you say "yer"?

I have actually wondered that too, because I just can't help but be irritated by it. Granted, there's not much that spinko does to irritate me, but grammatical errors... especially the intentional ones... just sort of burn like weak acid on the skin.

I don't know... there's something about throwing in informal grammar in the middle of sophisticated arguments (speaking in general for noumena, not necessarily right now) that makes them seem natural and less forced. I just want to hear his reasons
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9/23/2013 8:09:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The OP was produced by a randomized text program called the Postmodernism Generator.
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9/23/2013 9:58:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/23/2013 9:28:26 AM, Noumena wrote:
Yer bad at satire

Also, 8 1/2 is an awesome movie, everyone should go watch it.
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9/23/2013 11:21:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Do something useful, like science.
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9/24/2013 7:41:24 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/23/2013 10:23:08 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:39:29 AM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:28:26 AM, Noumena wrote:
Yore bad at satire.
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9/24/2013 9:06:03 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/24/2013 7:41:24 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 9/23/2013 10:23:08 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:39:29 AM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:28:26 AM, Noumena wrote:
Drafterman loves the D.
"Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for science intact." - Carl Sagan

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9/24/2013 1:10:00 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/24/2013 9:06:03 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 9/24/2013 7:41:24 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 9/23/2013 10:23:08 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:39:29 AM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:28:26 AM, Noumena wrote:
Drafterman loves the Deep Space Nine
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9/24/2013 1:13:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/24/2013 1:10:00 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 9/24/2013 9:06:03 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 9/24/2013 7:41:24 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 9/23/2013 10:23:08 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:39:29 AM, NightofTheLivingCats wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:28:26 AM, Noumena wrote:
Drafterman loves Deep Throat Nine
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9/24/2013 5:37:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/23/2013 8:09:06 PM, Poetaster wrote:
The OP was produced by a randomized text program called the Postmodernism Generator.

Just refresh the page: http://www.elsewhere.org...
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9/25/2013 3:55:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/25/2013 4:13:05 AM, jat93 wrote:
I think this is genuinely deeply hilarious and spot on.

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9/27/2013 9:34:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/23/2013 4:17:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 9/23/2013 4:01:02 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:28:26 AM, Noumena wrote:
Yer bad at satire

why do you say "yer"?

I have actually wondered that too, because I just can't help but be irritated by it. Granted, there's not much that spinko does to irritate me, but grammatical errors... especially the intentional ones... just sort of burn like weak acid on the skin.

It's just a habit of typing.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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9/27/2013 9:35:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/23/2013 11:21:31 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Do something useful, like science.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com...
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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9/27/2013 9:36:45 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/23/2013 4:25:49 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/23/2013 4:17:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 9/23/2013 4:01:02 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 9/23/2013 9:28:26 AM, Noumena wrote:
Yer bad at satire

why do you say "yer"?

I have actually wondered that too, because I just can't help but be irritated by it. Granted, there's not much that spinko does to irritate me, but grammatical errors... especially the intentional ones... just sort of burn like weak acid on the skin.

I don't know... there's something about throwing in informal grammar in the middle of sophisticated arguments (speaking in general for noumena, not necessarily right now) that makes them seem natural and less forced. I just want to hear his reasons

It's just how I put it. I don't know why and I don't know when I started doing it but I usually type things out rather quickly and don't feel it necessary to go back and fix it every time. Plus it makes me feel special.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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9/27/2013 10:49:19 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/27/2013 9:35:37 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 9/23/2013 11:21:31 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Do something useful, like science.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com...

Call me when philosophy cures cancer. Or does anything, really.
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9/27/2013 11:01:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/27/2013 10:49:19 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/27/2013 9:35:37 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 9/23/2013 11:21:31 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Do something useful, like science.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com...

Call me when philosophy cures cancer. Or does anything, really.

Is it strictly necessary that the value of philosophical thought be measured in terms of physical utility?
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9/27/2013 11:03:15 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/27/2013 11:01:06 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 10:49:19 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/27/2013 9:35:37 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 9/23/2013 11:21:31 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Do something useful, like science.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com...

Call me when philosophy cures cancer. Or does anything, really.

Is it strictly necessary that the value of philosophical thought be measured in terms of physical utility?

Yes.
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
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9/27/2013 11:08:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/27/2013 11:03:15 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:01:06 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 10:49:19 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/27/2013 9:35:37 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 9/23/2013 11:21:31 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Do something useful, like science.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com...

Call me when philosophy cures cancer. Or does anything, really.

Is it strictly necessary that the value of philosophical thought be measured in terms of physical utility?

Yes.

Why is that? That's neither why I engage in it nor the benefit I derive from it, so it isn't obvious to me.
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9/27/2013 11:09:55 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/27/2013 11:08:05 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:03:15 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:01:06 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 10:49:19 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/27/2013 9:35:37 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 9/23/2013 11:21:31 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Do something useful, like science.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com...

Call me when philosophy cures cancer. Or does anything, really.

Is it strictly necessary that the value of philosophical thought be measured in terms of physical utility?

Yes.

Why is that? That's neither why I engage in it nor the benefit I derive from it, so it isn't obvious to me.

I see no reason for supporting intellectual masturbation.
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
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9/27/2013 11:13:45 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/27/2013 11:09:55 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:08:05 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:03:15 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
Yes.

Why is that? That's neither why I engage in it nor the benefit I derive from it, so it isn't obvious to me.

I see no reason for supporting intellectual masturbation.

Two things: first, I would appreciate not being patronized. I'm trying sincerely to rectify on my part a lack of understanding, and using negatively-charged terms in your replies will not help me. Second, the benefit I derive from philosophy is not entertainment value. It seems like you're setting up a choice between physical utility and intellectual pleasure--if this is true, I think we have different understandings of physical utility. How do you understand it?
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9/27/2013 1:27:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/27/2013 11:13:45 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:09:55 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:08:05 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:03:15 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
Yes.

Why is that? That's neither why I engage in it nor the benefit I derive from it, so it isn't obvious to me.

I see no reason for supporting intellectual masturbation.

Two things: first, I would appreciate not being patronized. I'm trying sincerely to rectify on my part a lack of understanding, and using negatively-charged terms in your replies will not help me. Second, the benefit I derive from philosophy is not entertainment value. It seems like you're setting up a choice between physical utility and intellectual pleasure--if this is true, I think we have different understandings of physical utility. How do you understand it?

His jumping off point is some type of unfocused instrumentalism. He doesn't see the need to critically evaluate it because he's lazy and/or mentally disabled. Boom. Done. No more explanation necessary.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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9/27/2013 1:44:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/27/2013 1:27:01 PM, Noumena wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:13:45 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:09:55 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:08:05 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:03:15 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
Yes.

Why is that? That's neither why I engage in it nor the benefit I derive from it, so it isn't obvious to me.

I see no reason for supporting intellectual masturbation.

Two things: first, I would appreciate not being patronized. I'm trying sincerely to rectify on my part a lack of understanding, and using negatively-charged terms in your replies will not help me. Second, the benefit I derive from philosophy is not entertainment value. It seems like you're setting up a choice between physical utility and intellectual pleasure--if this is true, I think we have different understandings of physical utility. How do you understand it?

His jumping off point is some type of unfocused instrumentalism. He doesn't see the need to critically evaluate it because he's lazy and/or mentally disabled. Boom. Done. No more explanation necessary.

I don't think I've heard language like that since Joe. Anyway, I'm not convinced writing someone off that way is especially productive. It may be the case I have nothing (or not enough) to gain from conversing with him--I do employ a certain economy of discourse--but that remains to be seen. If he is actually lazy, it isn't a terminal condition. If he is in some way mentally handicapped, which I think is both incredibly unlikely and, even if true, not especially handicapping, I couldn't hold it against him. If, as I believe, he's mistaken, it is likely he nevertheless has some emotional connection to his beliefs--much the same as myself and anyone I've ever met. This is why I prefer to proceed gently and estimate how taxing, relative to my expected gains, the full conversation would likely be on my internal resources.
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9/27/2013 1:51:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/27/2013 1:44:07 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 1:27:01 PM, Noumena wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:13:45 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:09:55 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:08:05 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:03:15 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
Yes.

Why is that? That's neither why I engage in it nor the benefit I derive from it, so it isn't obvious to me.

I see no reason for supporting intellectual masturbation.

Two things: first, I would appreciate not being patronized. I'm trying sincerely to rectify on my part a lack of understanding, and using negatively-charged terms in your replies will not help me. Second, the benefit I derive from philosophy is not entertainment value. It seems like you're setting up a choice between physical utility and intellectual pleasure--if this is true, I think we have different understandings of physical utility. How do you understand it?

His jumping off point is some type of unfocused instrumentalism. He doesn't see the need to critically evaluate it because he's lazy and/or mentally disabled. Boom. Done. No more explanation necessary.

I don't think I've heard language like that since Joe.

Actually, after I sent off that post I looked at it and it brought to mind a recent thing he posted in the group wherein he called some fellow a cvnt after what seemed like hardly any provocation. Dear god he's rubbing off on me.

Anyway, I'm not convinced writing someone off that way is especially productive. It may be the case I have nothing (or not enough) to gain from conversing with him--I do employ a certain economy of discourse--but that remains to be seen. If he is actually lazy, it isn't a terminal condition. If he is in some way mentally handicapped, which I think is both incredibly unlikely and, even if true, not especially handicapping, I couldn't hold it against him. If, as I believe, he's mistaken, it is likely he nevertheless has some emotional connection to his beliefs--much the same as myself and anyone I've ever met. This is why I prefer to proceed gently and estimate how taxing, relative to my expected gains, the full conversation would likely be on my internal resources.

Do what you will. I think denigrating the entirety of philosophical thought to "intellectual masturbation" is taxing enough for me so I'll refrain ;)
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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9/27/2013 5:29:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/27/2013 11:13:45 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:09:55 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:08:05 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 9/27/2013 11:03:15 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
Yes.

Why is that? That's neither why I engage in it nor the benefit I derive from it, so it isn't obvious to me.

I see no reason for supporting intellectual masturbation.

Two things: first, I would appreciate not being patronized. I'm trying sincerely to rectify on my part a lack of understanding, and using negatively-charged terms in your replies will not help me. Second, the benefit I derive from philosophy is not entertainment value. It seems like you're setting up a choice between physical utility and intellectual pleasure--if this is true, I think we have different understandings of physical utility. How do you understand it?

It's a difference of axioms. I don't value anything that can't produce real, physical results, which is the main reason that I revere the scientific method and inquiry; you clearly value things that are psychological in nature.

That's it.
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