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10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM
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If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us? It seems to me that it would be a copy of the us. How would it really be us?
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10/29/2013 11:45:47 AM
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At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us? It seems to me that it would be a copy of the us. How would it really be us?

Copy your mind to a computer and then ask yourself.
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10/29/2013 11:50:06 AM
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At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us?

You just answered your own question. If you copied it onto a computer, it would be a copy. If you transferred it to a computer, it would be you.
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10/29/2013 11:58:53 AM
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At 10/29/2013 11:50:06 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us?

You just answered your own question. If you copied it onto a computer, it would be a copy. If you transferred it to a computer, it would be you.

I meant to say transfer, lol
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10/29/2013 11:59:21 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/29/2013 11:45:47 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us? It seems to me that it would be a copy of the us. How would it really be us?

Copy your mind to a computer and then ask yourself.

Where should I start cutting?
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10/29/2013 12:06:14 PM
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At 10/29/2013 11:58:53 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:50:06 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us?

You just answered your own question. If you copied it onto a computer, it would be a copy. If you transferred it to a computer, it would be you.

I meant to say transfer, lol

Well, if your mind by definition is just information , and you transferred that exact same information on a computer. Doesn't it follow that it is indeed still you? It would be as absurd as asking "If I transfer the apple to the cupboard, is it still the same apple?". Transferring =/= replicating.
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10/29/2013 12:14:00 PM
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At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
How would it really be us?

You have just stumbled on to why computer science + neuroscience might just prove the existence of the soul.
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10/29/2013 12:15:28 PM
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At 10/29/2013 12:06:14 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:58:53 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:50:06 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us?

You just answered your own question. If you copied it onto a computer, it would be a copy. If you transferred it to a computer, it would be you.

I meant to say transfer, lol

Well, if your mind by definition is just information , and you transferred that exact same information on a computer. Doesn't it follow that it is indeed still you? It would be as absurd as asking "If I transfer the apple to the cupboard, is it still the same apple?". Transferring =/= replicating.

It's more like teleporting an apple. The same question holds, is it the original apple? It's not moving it through space like you move an apple. You're extracting the information while leaving the brain.
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10/29/2013 12:17:28 PM
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At 10/29/2013 12:14:00 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
How would it really be us?

You have just stumbled on to why computer science + neuroscience might just prove the existence of the soul.

Not really. If our minds are a product of our brain, the same would be true. Because it would be a purely biological machine.
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10/29/2013 12:17:29 PM
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In the same way that when DNA splits into two identical DNA strands, it is not you, but a copy of you.
I'm becoming less defined as days go by, fading away, and well you might say, I'm losing focus, kinda drifting into the abstract in terms of how I see myself.
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10/29/2013 12:19:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/29/2013 12:17:28 PM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:14:00 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
How would it really be us?

You have just stumbled on to why computer science + neuroscience might just prove the existence of the soul.

Not really. If our minds are a product of our brain, the same would be true. Because it would be a purely biological machine.

Are you saying that the artificial mind would be a product of the circuitry?
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10/29/2013 12:21:27 PM
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At 10/29/2013 12:15:28 PM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:06:14 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:58:53 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:50:06 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us?

You just answered your own question. If you copied it onto a computer, it would be a copy. If you transferred it to a computer, it would be you.

I meant to say transfer, lol

Well, if your mind by definition is just information , and you transferred that exact same information on a computer. Doesn't it follow that it is indeed still you? It would be as absurd as asking "If I transfer the apple to the cupboard, is it still the same apple?". Transferring =/= replicating.

It's more like teleporting an apple. The same question holds, is it the original apple? It's not moving it through space like you move an apple. You're extracting the information while leaving the brain.

You say the same question holds. Well, I say the same answer holds. If your mind (or "you") by definition is that information, then it doesn't matter if it gets extracted or moved, it is still you by definition.
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10/29/2013 12:23:03 PM
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At 10/29/2013 12:15:28 PM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:06:14 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:58:53 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:50:06 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us?

You just answered your own question. If you copied it onto a computer, it would be a copy. If you transferred it to a computer, it would be you.

I meant to say transfer, lol

Well, if your mind by definition is just information , and you transferred that exact same information on a computer. Doesn't it follow that it is indeed still you? It would be as absurd as asking "If I transfer the apple to the cupboard, is it still the same apple?". Transferring =/= replicating.

It's more like teleporting an apple. The same question holds, is it the original apple? It's not moving it through space like you move an apple. You're extracting the information while leaving the brain.

Your question pressupoes "our minds are just a pile of information". Thus, you define our minds as specific information. If you take that exact same information, and put it somewhere else, it is still you. Self-evidently...
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10/29/2013 12:23:58 PM
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At 10/29/2013 12:19:02 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:17:28 PM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:14:00 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
How would it really be us?

You have just stumbled on to why computer science + neuroscience might just prove the existence of the soul.

Not really. If our minds are a product of our brain, the same would be true. Because it would be a purely biological machine.

Are you saying that the artificial mind would be a product of the circuitry?

Yes, if it's even possible, but if a mind can only exist with a brain, then functionalism would be false.
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10/29/2013 12:28:10 PM
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At 10/29/2013 12:23:03 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:15:28 PM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:06:14 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:58:53 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:50:06 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us?

You just answered your own question. If you copied it onto a computer, it would be a copy. If you transferred it to a computer, it would be you.

I meant to say transfer, lol

Well, if your mind by definition is just information , and you transferred that exact same information on a computer. Doesn't it follow that it is indeed still you? It would be as absurd as asking "If I transfer the apple to the cupboard, is it still the same apple?". Transferring =/= replicating.

It's more like teleporting an apple. The same question holds, is it the original apple? It's not moving it through space like you move an apple. You're extracting the information while leaving the brain.

Your question pressupoes "our minds are just a pile of information". Thus, you define our minds as specific information. If you take that exact same information, and put it somewhere else, it is still you. Self-evidently...

I see, if I'm defined as the information, then anywhere that information is, is me. Perhaps that's the wrong definition.
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10/29/2013 12:29:47 PM
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At 10/29/2013 12:28:10 PM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:23:03 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:15:28 PM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:06:14 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:58:53 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:50:06 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us?

You just answered your own question. If you copied it onto a computer, it would be a copy. If you transferred it to a computer, it would be you.

I meant to say transfer, lol

Well, if your mind by definition is just information , and you transferred that exact same information on a computer. Doesn't it follow that it is indeed still you? It would be as absurd as asking "If I transfer the apple to the cupboard, is it still the same apple?". Transferring =/= replicating.

It's more like teleporting an apple. The same question holds, is it the original apple? It's not moving it through space like you move an apple. You're extracting the information while leaving the brain.

Your question pressupoes "our minds are just a pile of information". Thus, you define our minds as specific information. If you take that exact same information, and put it somewhere else, it is still you. Self-evidently...

I see, if I'm defined as the information, then anywhere that information is, is me. Perhaps that's the wrong definition.

Your question presupposes that definition, so I am just going by your prerequisites.
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10/29/2013 12:30:50 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/29/2013 12:23:58 PM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:19:02 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:17:28 PM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:14:00 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
How would it really be us?

You have just stumbled on to why computer science + neuroscience might just prove the existence of the soul.

Not really. If our minds are a product of our brain, the same would be true. Because it would be a purely biological machine.

Are you saying that the artificial mind would be a product of the circuitry?

Yes, if it's even possible, but if a mind can only exist with a brain, then functionalism would be false.

Then it would be a copy of you, without actually being you (your biological body would still contain your consciousness).
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10/29/2013 5:39:50 PM
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At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us? It seems to me that it would be a copy of the us. How would it really be us?

The current proposed method (and one that is really being worked-on) for reducing your mind to data uses a process which removes your brain, covers it in a plastic coating for structural support, and then slices it into sections 1/1000 as thick as a human hair. Then each section is sliced a thousand times more. Finally a visual representation of all the neurons and neural pathways are "decoded" into bits of data which are fed onto a computer. The technology doesn't currently exist, and we don't know if it ever will, but if it does you would definitely become a copy. And unless they figure-out some way to put your mind into a truly life-like simulation able to copy all the aspects of reality (taste, touch, etc.) and include other minds for you to communicate with it would be a semi-living hell - sensory deprivation at its worst. I hope we never try to go down that path. And people say religious folk are pre-occupied with immortality. :-/
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10/30/2013 8:16:24 PM
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At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us? It seems to me that it would be a copy of the us. How would it really be us?

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10/30/2013 8:34:33 PM
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At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us?

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11/1/2013 10:16:54 PM
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I guess it depends on whether you press ctrl+c or ctrl+v...

If we sliced the brain up like dude said and copied the information from every single neuron to a code, then there'd still be some essence lost of who you were because we'd have to decide an arbitrary method of determining what each neuron meant, then make a code for it.
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11/3/2013 4:46:46 PM
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At 10/29/2013 12:17:29 PM, Subutai wrote:
In the same way that when DNA splits into two identical DNA strands, it is not you, but a copy of you.
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11/4/2013 5:49:35 PM
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At 10/29/2013 12:14:00 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
How would it really be us?

You have just stumbled on to why computer science + neuroscience might just prove the existence of the soul.

See, now that seems a bit of a jump, while the idea of transhumanism is great and all, I'm not really certain how the idea of transferring information encoded on neurons in the brain would be indicative of that. I suppose you would have to clarify specifically how you define the term "soul", if a "soul" is simply the sum total of a batch of physical information then I could more reasonably see where you're coming from.

At 10/29/2013 12:19:02 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:17:28 PM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 10/29/2013 12:14:00 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
How would it really be us?

You have just stumbled on to why computer science + neuroscience might just prove the existence of the soul.

Not really. If our minds are a product of our brain, the same would be true. Because it would be a purely biological machine.

Are you saying that the artificial mind would be a product of the circuitry?

I think it would be more accurate to say the mind, regardless of what medium it happens to be encoded upon is (at least as far as we can tell so far) the product of an organized and temporally systematized series of information points and the emotional context within which said points are formed. Hmm, yeah, that sounds right...hope I didn't leave any qualifiers out there :) but ultimately whether those information points are written onto a series of computer parts or onto a biological system like a central nervous system seems, at least functionally, somewhat moot.

At 11/1/2013 10:16:54 PM, Wren_cyborg wrote:
I guess it depends on whether you press ctrl+c or ctrl+v...

If we sliced the brain up like dude said and copied the information from every single neuron to a code, then there'd still be some essence lost of who you were because we'd have to decide an arbitrary method of determining what each neuron meant, then make a code for it.

How do you mean "what each neuron meant" specifically? Most of my understanding of neuroscience if kind of by proxy of my interest in pharmacology, but from what I understand the idea that neurons really "mean" anything is somewhat meaningless. Neurons are basically (and this is way oversimplified for ease of description here) information brokers, they send out neurotransmitters or act as gateways to redirect neurotransmitters to a given receptor site. Trillions and trillions of them working in concert ends up in the phenomena we call "consciousness" from a materialist standpoint. In other words their role is more quantitative than qualitative if that makes sense, so asking "what does this neuron mean" is kind of comparable to asking "why does life exist" of an evolutionist rather than "how is it life came to be what it is". The distinction is definitely subtle, but quite real. If we had the technology through, let's say, varying the charge of an electrical circuit within this hypothetical computer brain in order to emulate different neurotransmitters (sadly my computer tech skills are woefully inadequate for this so you'll forgive me if that sounds simplistic), why would we necessarily lose anything? And what do you think it is we would lose?

Also, how does everyone think that quantum computing may effect this whole situation? When information exists in a kind of blurry superposition, both a 1 and 0 at once, would this be able to more accurately model the qualities of the human mind?
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11/4/2013 7:04:33 PM
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At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us? It seems to me that it would be a copy of the us. How would it really be us?

I wonder if a mind that existed on a computer could get "high" from ingesting the right computer codes. lol Sexual frustration would sure become a hell of a problem.
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11/4/2013 7:16:38 PM
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At 11/4/2013 7:04:33 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us? It seems to me that it would be a copy of the us. How would it really be us?

I wonder if a mind that existed on a computer could get "high" from ingesting the right computer codes. lol Sexual frustration would sure become a hell of a problem.

*shrug* one would presume...most drugs just work by playing around with neurotransmitters so if you could get a code that "flooded" the 5-HT2 receptor there would be little reason you wouldn't be able to emulate the LSD or Psilocybin experience. Mind you, you would be floating around in a bizarre world of code completely cut off from the external world, so I can imagine how that could go real, real bad for you in the long run...seems like a bad trip incarnate. :)
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11/4/2013 7:24:44 PM
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At 11/4/2013 7:16:38 PM, Charos wrote:
At 11/4/2013 7:04:33 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us? It seems to me that it would be a copy of the us. How would it really be us?

I wonder if a mind that existed on a computer could get "high" from ingesting the right computer codes. lol Sexual frustration would sure become a hell of a problem.

*shrug* one would presume...most drugs just work by playing around with neurotransmitters so if you could get a code that "flooded" the 5-HT2 receptor there would be little reason you wouldn't be able to emulate the LSD or Psilocybin experience. Mind you, you would be floating around in a bizarre world of code completely cut off from the external world, so I can imagine how that could go real, real bad for you in the long run...seems like a bad trip incarnate. :)

Talk about "designer drugs". lol I guess it's conceivable that you could actually experience anything, just like in "The Matrix".
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11/4/2013 7:29:35 PM
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At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us? It seems to me that it would be a copy of the us. How would it really be us?

Would you really want the sum of your thoughts, experiences, deeds, etc. to be downloadable onto a computer?

Think long and hard about all the things that you do, have done and will do. Think about that information being stored, outside of your mind, and potentially viewable by others.

Think.
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11/4/2013 7:31:56 PM
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At 11/4/2013 7:29:35 PM, YYW wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us? It seems to me that it would be a copy of the us. How would it really be us?

Would you really want the sum of your thoughts, experiences, deeds, etc. to be downloadable onto a computer?

Think long and hard about all the things that you do, have done and will do. Think about that information being stored, outside of your mind, and potentially viewable by others.

Think.
hahaha, never thought of it that way.
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11/4/2013 7:32:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/4/2013 7:31:56 PM, Magic8000 wrote:
At 11/4/2013 7:29:35 PM, YYW wrote:
At 10/29/2013 11:41:00 AM, Magic8000 wrote:
If our minds are just a pile of information, then maybe we could copy that on a computer, but would this really be us, or a copy of us? It seems to me that it would be a copy of the us. How would it really be us?

Would you really want the sum of your thoughts, experiences, deeds, etc. to be downloadable onto a computer?

Think long and hard about all the things that you do, have done and will do. Think about that information being stored, outside of your mind, and potentially viewable by others.

Think.
hahaha, never thought of it that way.

So, your answer?
Tsar of DDO