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11/12/2013 9:30:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
There is no meaning of life. We live, and we die; we come, and we go.
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11/12/2013 10:00:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I can't recall how many of these threads I've seen in my time in DDO. I'm seriously waiting for someone to say something interesting and original here.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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11/12/2013 10:07:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 10:00:59 PM, Noumena wrote:
I can't recall how many of these threads I've seen in my time in DDO. I'm seriously waiting for someone to say something interesting and original here.

I suppose 42 has been said a boat load of times. Though what is with the appeal to novelty?
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11/12/2013 10:10:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 10:07:51 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:00:59 PM, Noumena wrote:
I can't recall how many of these threads I've seen in my time in DDO. I'm seriously waiting for someone to say something interesting and original here.

I suppose 42 has been said a boat load of times. Though what is with the appeal to novelty?

I essentially think the very question itself is a non-starter. But I'd be happy to see interesting viewpoints and perspectives other than vulgar nihilism or basic existentialism.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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11/12/2013 10:11:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 9:30:13 PM, yay842 wrote:
There is no meaning of life. We live, and we die; we come, and we go.
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11/12/2013 10:32:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 9:30:13 PM, yay842 wrote:
There is no meaning of life. We live, and we die; we come, and we go.

Often when we seek to deny something or declare it inert, we do so by proposing meaningless questions - that is, questions that are rhetorically sound by actually express no coherent inquiry. For example, when we claim that "nobody is perfect" - we infuse perfection with a cloud contradictory meanings, or no meaning at all save impossibility itself - when the presence of some clear, subjectively determined criteria for perfection would easily make it possible.

The same idea applies here. The question "what is the meaning of life" has no meaning in itself for it presents a conjunction of words artificially rendered unanswerable by their nebulous meaning. What are the parameters of what you consider life? What aspects of it are you concerned with? How do you define meaning?

What's worse is that this meaningless question is often met with even more meaningless answers - so it becomes this wistful exchange of lofty words as everyone revels in the ambiguous mess they created.
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
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11/12/2013 10:48:09 PM
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The meaning of life is what you make it. If you are looking for ultimate meaning, then sorry, there is no reason to believe there is ultimate meaning.
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11/12/2013 10:59:36 PM
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At 11/12/2013 10:48:09 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
The meaning of life is what you make it. If you are looking for ultimate meaning, then sorry, there is no reason to believe there is ultimate meaning.

ok then, time to die
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11/12/2013 11:02:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 10:59:36 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:48:09 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
The meaning of life is what you make it. If you are looking for ultimate meaning, then sorry, there is no reason to believe there is ultimate meaning.

ok then, time to die

So if there is no ultimate meaning, you might as well kill yourself? If that what you are saying? If not then I apologize, as your comment is extremely vague.
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11/12/2013 11:04:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 11:02:27 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:59:36 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:48:09 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
The meaning of life is what you make it. If you are looking for ultimate meaning, then sorry, there is no reason to believe there is ultimate meaning.

ok then, time to die

So if there is no ultimate meaning, you might as well kill yourself? If that what you are saying? If not then I apologize, as your comment is extremely vague.

what, no. I have a life. Why would a commit suicide? Thats retarded. when did I say I would commit sepuku?
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11/12/2013 11:07:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 11:04:25 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:02:27 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:59:36 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:48:09 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
The meaning of life is what you make it. If you are looking for ultimate meaning, then sorry, there is no reason to believe there is ultimate meaning.

ok then, time to die

So if there is no ultimate meaning, you might as well kill yourself? If that what you are saying? If not then I apologize, as your comment is extremely vague.

what, no. I have a life. Why would a commit suicide? Thats retarded. when did I say I would commit sepuku?

Well, what did you mean by your original reply to my post?
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11/12/2013 11:08:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 11:07:35 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:04:25 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:02:27 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:59:36 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:48:09 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
The meaning of life is what you make it. If you are looking for ultimate meaning, then sorry, there is no reason to believe there is ultimate meaning.

ok then, time to die

So if there is no ultimate meaning, you might as well kill yourself? If that what you are saying? If not then I apologize, as your comment is extremely vague.

what, no. I have a life. Why would a commit suicide? Thats retarded. when did I say I would commit sepuku?

Well, what did you mean by your original reply to my post?

Throughout time, there are those who died
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11/12/2013 11:10:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 11:08:20 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:07:35 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:04:25 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:02:27 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:59:36 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:48:09 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
The meaning of life is what you make it. If you are looking for ultimate meaning, then sorry, there is no reason to believe there is ultimate meaning.

ok then, time to die

So if there is no ultimate meaning, you might as well kill yourself? If that what you are saying? If not then I apologize, as your comment is extremely vague.

what, no. I have a life. Why would a commit suicide? Thats retarded. when did I say I would commit sepuku?

Well, what did you mean by your original reply to my post?

Throughout time, there are those who died

That's a trivial truth. What was the point you were trying to make with it? Were you just stating random facts?
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11/12/2013 11:11:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 11:10:40 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:08:20 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:07:35 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:04:25 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:02:27 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:59:36 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:48:09 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
The meaning of life is what you make it. If you are looking for ultimate meaning, then sorry, there is no reason to believe there is ultimate meaning.

ok then, time to die

So if there is no ultimate meaning, you might as well kill yourself? If that what you are saying? If not then I apologize, as your comment is extremely vague.

what, no. I have a life. Why would a commit suicide? Thats retarded. when did I say I would commit sepuku?

Well, what did you mean by your original reply to my post?

Throughout time, there are those who died

That's a trivial truth. What was the point you were trying to make with it? Were you just stating random facts?

Those deaths had included sepuku
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11/12/2013 11:29:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 11:11:56 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:10:40 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:08:20 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:07:35 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:04:25 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:02:27 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:59:36 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:48:09 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
The meaning of life is what you make it. If you are looking for ultimate meaning, then sorry, there is no reason to believe there is ultimate meaning.

ok then, time to die

So if there is no ultimate meaning, you might as well kill yourself? If that what you are saying? If not then I apologize, as your comment is extremely vague.

what, no. I have a life. Why would a commit suicide? Thats retarded. when did I say I would commit sepuku?

Well, what did you mean by your original reply to my post?

Throughout time, there are those who died

That's a trivial truth. What was the point you were trying to make with it? Were you just stating random facts?

Those deaths had included sepuku

Ok, so you are a troll.
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11/12/2013 11:30:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 11:29:28 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:11:56 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:10:40 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:08:20 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:07:35 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:04:25 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:02:27 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:59:36 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:48:09 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
The meaning of life is what you make it. If you are looking for ultimate meaning, then sorry, there is no reason to believe there is ultimate meaning.

ok then, time to die

So if there is no ultimate meaning, you might as well kill yourself? If that what you are saying? If not then I apologize, as your comment is extremely vague.

what, no. I have a life. Why would a commit suicide? Thats retarded. when did I say I would commit sepuku?

Well, what did you mean by your original reply to my post?

Throughout time, there are those who died

That's a trivial truth. What was the point you were trying to make with it? Were you just stating random facts?

Those deaths had included sepuku

Ok, so you are a troll.

HOW DArE YOU SIR! You callin me fat. I have feelings too you know? I'm a regular human being foo!
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11/13/2013 1:27:22 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 11:29:28 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:11:56 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:10:40 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:08:20 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:07:35 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:04:25 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 11:02:27 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:59:36 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 10:48:09 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
The meaning of life is what you make it. If you are looking for ultimate meaning, then sorry, there is no reason to believe there is ultimate meaning.

ok then, time to die

So if there is no ultimate meaning, you might as well kill yourself? If that what you are saying? If not then I apologize, as your comment is extremely vague.

what, no. I have a life. Why would a commit suicide? Thats retarded. when did I say I would commit sepuku?

Well, what did you mean by your original reply to my post?

Throughout time, there are those who died

That's a trivial truth. What was the point you were trying to make with it? Were you just stating random facts?

Those deaths had included sepuku

Ok, so you are a troll.

A troll who can't spell seppuku.
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11/13/2013 1:00:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 9:30:13 PM, yay842 wrote:
There is no meaning of life. We live, and we die; we come, and we go.

The meaning of life is to have a life full of meaning.
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11/14/2013 3:14:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 9:30:13 PM, yay842 wrote:
There is no meaning of life. We live, and we die; we come, and we go.

I'm 100 % pure in conveying you the meaning, but I accept my self limitations and lack of abilities in doing so.

So really, if you just live and die, and think in between of your birth and death (as your mind machine can do), it has just one straight forward meaning (not which one'll give it subjectively but that would rationally popped out objectively).

You can analyse, you was not, you are and you'll not be. Your state which you want to test (if it has meaning or not + what's the only meaning) is your state "when you are having life". It has meaning only if there is a link between.........

.......two types of transitions:-

1) before your life-to- life
2) From life-to- after your life (death)

Now the link between these two types of transitions must be called a "cause/purpose" of transition. That cause/reason would define the meaning of life, if the cause really exists, if there is no cause there is no meaning/purpose.

Assume two natures of transition:

1) Transition without a cause: (Meaningless life)
2) Transition with a cause: (Meaningful life)

Now to decide from above options, I give you one point (although there are many) to ponder for second type of transition.

1) If life has no cause (meaningless) there'll be "no effect"
2) If life has a cause (meaningful) there'll be an "effect"

If you live the life

a): by considering it meaningful and;
If (1) If life has no cause (meaningless) is true= Null effect
If (2) If life has a cause (meaningful) is true= You're safe

b): by considering it meaning less and;
If (1) If life has no cause (meaningless) is true= Null effect
If (2) If life has a cause (meaningful) is true= You're not safe

So the only option to take care for; is the option (b) that's risk free. Thus when you select (b) you're actually selecting to believe in cause, that directly defines the life's meaning.

Thus if you're a rationale thinker you have to believe in that life has a meaning, defined by or based on its cause.

*Anyone interested in discussing the "characteristics of cause" should contact separately.
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