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What's truth and what's false?

Harims
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11/30/2013 11:13:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Is a question a way to express our feelings and Is the truth an answer that satisfies emotionally the question? And something false is an answer that doesn't satisfies us emotionally? If so, if we know what feelings a person needs to fullfill when he/she asks a question, we can provide the perfect answer?
21st_Century_Occultist
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12/1/2013 12:31:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 11:13:38 PM, Harims wrote:
Is a question a way to express our feelings and Is the truth an answer that satisfies emotionally the question? And something false is an answer that doesn't satisfies us emotionally? If so, if we know what feelings a person needs to fullfill when he/she asks a question, we can provide the perfect answer?

I think there are both objective and subjective truth. A truth is, well true; it is supported by evidence and, if objective, testable / provable. An objective truth is that simplest atom is a hydrogen atom. A subjective truth is that green is the best color. A falsehood is a conclusion that contradicts a truth.
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12/1/2013 7:51:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 11:13:38 PM, Harims wrote:
Is a question a way to express our feelings and Is the truth an answer that satisfies emotionally the question? And something false is an answer that doesn't satisfies us emotionally? If so, if we know what feelings a person needs to fullfill when he/she asks a question, we can provide the perfect answer?

Objectively there can be no truth. There can never be something that we can be sure about, because everything that we "know" is built on assumptions. Everything in math is based on the assumption that x=x.
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12/1/2013 8:41:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 7:51:46 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 11:13:38 PM, Harims wrote:
Is a question a way to express our feelings and Is the truth an answer that satisfies emotionally the question? And something false is an answer that doesn't satisfies us emotionally? If so, if we know what feelings a person needs to fullfill when he/she asks a question, we can provide the perfect answer?

There can never be something that we can be sure about, because everything that we "know" is built on assumptions.

You sound pretty sure of that.
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12/1/2013 8:45:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 8:41:37 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 12/1/2013 7:51:46 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 11:13:38 PM, Harims wrote:
Is a question a way to express our feelings and Is the truth an answer that satisfies emotionally the question? And something false is an answer that doesn't satisfies us emotionally? If so, if we know what feelings a person needs to fullfill when he/she asks a question, we can provide the perfect answer?

There can never be something that we can be sure about, because everything that we "know" is built on assumptions.

You sound pretty sure of that.

What isn't built on some assumption that we make? Regardless of whether or not the assumption is rational. We have rational assumptions that we need to make to move forward, such as our own existence, or x=x, or gravity will be in affect.
Birth Name: Graesil s'h'u Aln s'de Alanai'u s'se Saeron
Name: Grae
Titles: Lord, x'Sor Linniae (the false king), Elven War Chief, Heir to Aln
Class: Melee Archer/ Orator
Main Stats: Charisma, Dexterity
Weilds: Bladebow, Elven Slim Sword
Skills: Oration, Double Shot, Backstab, Snatch, Overwhelm Mind, Dominate, Parley, Restorative Sleep
Personal History: Born as the second of triplets, he was wed at an early age to a Dryad. He escaped several times, and on the last was captured and enslaved
dylancatlow
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12/1/2013 8:51:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 8:45:19 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 12/1/2013 8:41:37 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 12/1/2013 7:51:46 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 11:13:38 PM, Harims wrote:
Is a question a way to express our feelings and Is the truth an answer that satisfies emotionally the question? And something false is an answer that doesn't satisfies us emotionally? If so, if we know what feelings a person needs to fullfill when he/she asks a question, we can provide the perfect answer?

There can never be something that we can be sure about, because everything that we "know" is built on assumptions.

You sound pretty sure of that.

What isn't built on some assumption that we make? Regardless of whether or not the assumption is rational. We have rational assumptions that we need to make to move forward, such as our own existence, or x=x, or gravity will be in affect.

Certain 'assumptions' can't be false, because the concept of 'false' is predicated on their validity. These are known as logical axioms, and they are true by definition.
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12/1/2013 8:52:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 8:51:21 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 12/1/2013 8:45:19 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 12/1/2013 8:41:37 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 12/1/2013 7:51:46 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 11:13:38 PM, Harims wrote:
Is a question a way to express our feelings and Is the truth an answer that satisfies emotionally the question? And something false is an answer that doesn't satisfies us emotionally? If so, if we know what feelings a person needs to fullfill when he/she asks a question, we can provide the perfect answer?

There can never be something that we can be sure about, because everything that we "know" is built on assumptions.

You sound pretty sure of that.

What isn't built on some assumption that we make? Regardless of whether or not the assumption is rational. We have rational assumptions that we need to make to move forward, such as our own existence, or x=x, or gravity will be in affect.

Certain 'assumptions' can't be false, because the concept of 'false' is predicated on their validity. These are known as logical axioms, and they are true by definition.

Interesting theory.
Birth Name: Graesil s'h'u Aln s'de Alanai'u s'se Saeron
Name: Grae
Titles: Lord, x'Sor Linniae (the false king), Elven War Chief, Heir to Aln
Class: Melee Archer/ Orator
Main Stats: Charisma, Dexterity
Weilds: Bladebow, Elven Slim Sword
Skills: Oration, Double Shot, Backstab, Snatch, Overwhelm Mind, Dominate, Parley, Restorative Sleep
Personal History: Born as the second of triplets, he was wed at an early age to a Dryad. He escaped several times, and on the last was captured and enslaved
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12/1/2013 9:12:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 8:52:49 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 12/1/2013 8:51:21 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 12/1/2013 8:45:19 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 12/1/2013 8:41:37 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 12/1/2013 7:51:46 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 11:13:38 PM, Harims wrote:
Is a question a way to express our feelings and Is the truth an answer that satisfies emotionally the question? And something false is an answer that doesn't satisfies us emotionally? If so, if we know what feelings a person needs to fullfill when he/she asks a question, we can provide the perfect answer?

There can never be something that we can be sure about, because everything that we "know" is built on assumptions.

You sound pretty sure of that.

What isn't built on some assumption that we make? Regardless of whether or not the assumption is rational. We have rational assumptions that we need to make to move forward, such as our own existence, or x=x, or gravity will be in affect.

Certain 'assumptions' can't be false, because the concept of 'false' is predicated on their validity. These are known as logical axioms, and they are true by definition.

Interesting theory.

It's not merely a "theory"as it identifies the base of knowledge which makes theories possible. Any 'proof' of logic's invalidity would invalidate itself, and any doubt of its absolute truth would result in any infinite regress (it might be true that it might be true that it might be true etc).
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12/1/2013 9:28:53 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 11:13:38 PM, Harims wrote:
Is a question a way to express our feelings and Is the truth an answer that satisfies emotionally the question? And something false is an answer that doesn't satisfies us emotionally? If so, if we know what feelings a person needs to fulfill when he/she asks a question, we can provide the perfect answer?

The Fool: A real question, is a re-quest for information, A.k.a. as knowledge.

We naturally don't like to want to be lied to, by virtue of what it means to be fooled.

But if you're asking honestly, it is a fallacy to branch off into another question, which depends on an answer, which has not been given yet.

Or else it is a fake Question, which is synonymously a false question, as you are not really asking a question, but giving an impression that you are, to conceal a would be obvious bundle of bold assumptions. Triple stacked in fact.

If you yourself don't know the truth, and you pretend that you do, and give answer anyway, then you are technically lying .a.k.a. being dishonest.

Granting that the loaded statements within these questions are true, which they're not. It would at best amount to "if you know the answer, can you provide a perfect answer"
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Crack can seem to satisfy you emotionally, but it's probably not the best answer, as it is temporary, and so is the same with lies.

So says the fool, or at least that's what I heard.
"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL