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Thanatos1983
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12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?
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12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.
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12/25/2013 3:40:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

Nobody knows why he did it, and I doubt we'll ever find out, considering the state of Connecticut has closed the investigation. At best, there will be various hypotheses from different journalists and books which are all consistent with the evidence.
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12/25/2013 3:41:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.

Adam Lanza did not demonstrate the criteria for psychopathic behavior, as easy as it may seem to throw that term to any massacre.
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12/25/2013 4:03:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 3:41:45 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.

Adam Lanza did not demonstrate the criteria for psychopathic behavior, as easy as it may seem to throw that term to any massacre.

No, he didn"t. As I see it, Adam acted in a very cold and calculating way. To begin with, he chose an automatic rifle, a weapon that can kill many people in the right hands. He chose children to be his targets, in a deliberate act to sabotage the demography of at least the region he was in.

Adam was far from insane. He knew perfectly well what he was doing. He wanted to cause damage to his community and he succeeded. Now, twenty generations will never grow up and work for the United States. The future has been compromised.
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12/25/2013 4:05:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 4:03:34 PM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 3:41:45 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.

Adam Lanza did not demonstrate the criteria for psychopathic behavior, as easy as it may seem to throw that term to any massacre.

No, he didn"t. As I see it, Adam acted in a very cold and calculating way. To begin with, he chose an automatic rifle, a weapon that can kill many people in the right hands. He chose children to be his targets, in a deliberate act to sabotage the demography of at least the region he was in.

Adam was far from insane. He knew perfectly well what he was doing. He wanted to cause damage to his community and he succeeded. Now, twenty generations will never grow up and work for the United States. The future has been compromised.

He did not have an automatic rifle. Quit watching so much MSNBC
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12/25/2013 4:08:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 4:05:51 PM, Juris_Naturalis wrote:
At 12/25/2013 4:03:34 PM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 3:41:45 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.

Adam Lanza did not demonstrate the criteria for psychopathic behavior, as easy as it may seem to throw that term to any massacre.

No, he didn"t. As I see it, Adam acted in a very cold and calculating way. To begin with, he chose an automatic rifle, a weapon that can kill many people in the right hands. He chose children to be his targets, in a deliberate act to sabotage the demography of at least the region he was in.

Adam was far from insane. He knew perfectly well what he was doing. He wanted to cause damage to his community and he succeeded. Now, twenty generations will never grow up and work for the United States. The future has been compromised.

He did not have an automatic rifle. Quit watching so much MSNBC

Semi-automatic, anyway.
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12/25/2013 4:10:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 4:08:10 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/25/2013 4:05:51 PM, Juris_Naturalis wrote:
At 12/25/2013 4:03:34 PM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 3:41:45 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.

Adam Lanza did not demonstrate the criteria for psychopathic behavior, as easy as it may seem to throw that term to any massacre.

No, he didn"t. As I see it, Adam acted in a very cold and calculating way. To begin with, he chose an automatic rifle, a weapon that can kill many people in the right hands. He chose children to be his targets, in a deliberate act to sabotage the demography of at least the region he was in.

Adam was far from insane. He knew perfectly well what he was doing. He wanted to cause damage to his community and he succeeded. Now, twenty generations will never grow up and work for the United States. The future has been compromised.

He did not have an automatic rifle. Quit watching so much MSNBC

Semi-automatic, anyway.

Yes. This is what happens when your mass media is ignorant on the subject of firearms and their operation (Piers Morgan) all they do is spread ignorance.
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12/25/2013 4:11:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 4:03:34 PM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 3:41:45 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.

Adam Lanza did not demonstrate the criteria for psychopathic behavior, as easy as it may seem to throw that term to any massacre.

No, he didn"t. As I see it, Adam acted in a very cold and calculating way. To begin with, he chose an automatic rifle, a weapon that can kill many people in the right hands. He chose children to be his targets, in a deliberate act to sabotage the demography of at least the region he was in.

Adam was far from insane. He knew perfectly well what he was doing. He wanted to cause damage to his community and he succeeded. Now, twenty generations will never grow up and work for the United States. The future has been compromised.

Oh, and he probably choose the school because 1. His mom used to work there and 2. Everyone there is defenceless.
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12/25/2013 4:16:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 4:11:38 PM, Juris_Naturalis wrote:
At 12/25/2013 4:03:34 PM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 3:41:45 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.

Adam Lanza did not demonstrate the criteria for psychopathic behavior, as easy as it may seem to throw that term to any massacre.

No, he didn"t. As I see it, Adam acted in a very cold and calculating way. To begin with, he chose an automatic rifle, a weapon that can kill many people in the right hands. He chose children to be his targets, in a deliberate act to sabotage the demography of at least the region he was in.

Adam was far from insane. He knew perfectly well what he was doing. He wanted to cause damage to his community and he succeeded. Now, twenty generations will never grow up and work for the United States. The future has been compromised.

Oh, and he probably choose the school because 1. His mom used to work there and 2. Everyone there is defenceless.

1) is false.
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12/25/2013 4:19:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 4:18:21 PM, Juris_Naturalis wrote:
Really? It didn't have anything to do with the mom? I thought it did?...

No. Early reports that she worked at the school at some point in time were false.
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12/25/2013 4:38:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 4:19:44 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/25/2013 4:18:21 PM, Juris_Naturalis wrote:
Really? It didn't have anything to do with the mom? I thought it did?...

No. Early reports that she worked at the school at some point in time were false.

Oh. Learning something everyday.

Do you know why he choose the school?
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12/25/2013 4:39:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 4:38:23 PM, Juris_Naturalis wrote:
At 12/25/2013 4:19:44 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/25/2013 4:18:21 PM, Juris_Naturalis wrote:
Really? It didn't have anything to do with the mom? I thought it did?...

No. Early reports that she worked at the school at some point in time were false.

Oh. Learning something everyday.

Do you know why he choose the school?

The official report states that they could find no other reason why he chose Sandy Hook elementary other than the fact that it's close to his house.
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12/26/2013 12:11:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

Some people say he was mentally unstable. "To do something that evil, you would have to be insane, right?" Um, well, not really. Maaaybe he just chose to do it...? Like, free will.

Anyways, unless it's demonstrated that he's insane, he should get the death penalty in my opinion.
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12/29/2013 5:03:02 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 4:05:51 PM, Juris_Naturalis wrote:
At 12/25/2013 4:03:34 PM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 3:41:45 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.

Adam Lanza did not demonstrate the criteria for psychopathic behavior, as easy as it may seem to throw that term to any massacre.

No, he didn"t. As I see it, Adam acted in a very cold and calculating way. To begin with, he chose an automatic rifle, a weapon that can kill many people in the right hands. He chose children to be his targets, in a deliberate act to sabotage the demography of at least the region he was in.

Adam was far from insane. He knew perfectly well what he was doing. He wanted to cause damage to his community and he succeeded. Now, twenty generations will never grow up and work for the United States. The future has been compromised.

He did not have an automatic rifle. Quit watching so much MSNBC

Indeed, he used a semi-automatic weapon. My mistake. a Bushmaster M4A3, semi automatic or select fire was used to shoot the victims and a Adam used Glock 20SF to kill himself. You may rest assured I will avoid misinformation in future posts.

I am reading of the incident as I type this. Someone I know on another forum suggested that this event was mother nature thinning the numbers of this particular town to influence the demography. What do you think?
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12/29/2013 3:15:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/29/2013 5:03:02 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 4:05:51 PM, Juris_Naturalis wrote:
At 12/25/2013 4:03:34 PM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 3:41:45 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.

Adam Lanza did not demonstrate the criteria for psychopathic behavior, as easy as it may seem to throw that term to any massacre.

No, he didn"t. As I see it, Adam acted in a very cold and calculating way. To begin with, he chose an automatic rifle, a weapon that can kill many people in the right hands. He chose children to be his targets, in a deliberate act to sabotage the demography of at least the region he was in.

Adam was far from insane. He knew perfectly well what he was doing. He wanted to cause damage to his community and he succeeded. Now, twenty generations will never grow up and work for the United States. The future has been compromised.

He did not have an automatic rifle. Quit watching so much MSNBC

Indeed, he used a semi-automatic weapon. My mistake. a Bushmaster M4A3, semi automatic or select fire was used to shoot the victims and a Adam used Glock 20SF to kill himself. You may rest assured I will avoid misinformation in future posts.

I am reading of the incident as I type this. Someone I know on another forum suggested that this event was mother nature thinning the numbers of this particular town to influence the demography. What do you think?

Semi automatic and select fire are not the same thing.

As of the reasoning of the shooting, Your guess is as good as mine
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12/29/2013 8:45:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.

I think schizophrenia is a more plausible explanation.
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12/30/2013 7:56:31 AM
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It's a wonderful thing to have medical dergoations such as "schizophrenic" and "psychopath" floating around the place, isn't it? You know, it gives you a way of setting yourself apart from those less fortunate in life, of securing yourself against them, no faith at all in yourself. It's all a load of bullsh*t, though, isn't it?
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12/30/2013 1:05:49 PM
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I would like to believe there was a reason for the deaths at Sandy Hook. The choice of target was clearly children. Adam could've gone after the staff only, but he specifically focused on the children. Was this life's way of reducing the population of an overcrowded nation? I personally believe it was.
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1/1/2014 5:42:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/29/2013 8:45:52 PM, YYW wrote:
At 12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.

I think schizophrenia is a more plausible explanation.

No. He was certainly not scizophrenic.
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1/1/2014 5:44:56 PM
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At 12/26/2013 12:11:06 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
Anyways, unless it's demonstrated that he's insane, he should get the death penalty in my opinion.

There is no death penalty in Connecticut.
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1/1/2014 5:48:14 PM
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At 1/1/2014 5:42:11 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/29/2013 8:45:52 PM, YYW wrote:
At 12/25/2013 11:46:08 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/25/2013 9:44:51 AM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
On that dark day, the souls of 20 children were ripped from their bodies. I read of their passing and to this day, I am in awe of how one man chose to remove so many of them from this world. Why did he do it? What path of enlightenment did he walk in order to believe that the children of this school had to be taken away from the land of the living?

It's called being a psychopath.

I think schizophrenia is a more plausible explanation.

No. He was certainly not scizophrenic.

He might have been, just never diagnosed... and it's reasonable to expect that he wouldn't be diagnosed if he knew what schizophrenia was and didn't want to incur treatment.
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1/1/2014 5:52:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/1/2014 5:48:14 PM, YYW wrote:
He might have been,

He also might have been a 100 foot tall giant who wasn't assuming his ultimate form.

just never diagnosed...

He would have been diagnosed when he saw the same doctor that diagnosed him with Asperger's. Nobody ever recounted him behaving like a scizophrenic, and there's no evidence from anything he did which indicates he might have been one.

I would read the entirety of the Sandy Hook report and then think about the shooting.
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1/1/2014 6:05:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/1/2014 5:52:47 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 1/1/2014 5:48:14 PM, YYW wrote:
He might have been,

He also might have been a 100 foot tall giant who wasn't assuming his ultimate form.

The laws of physics might take issue with that ;)

just never diagnosed...

He would have been diagnosed when he saw the same doctor that diagnosed him with Asperger's. Nobody ever recounted him behaving like a scizophrenic, and there's no evidence from anything he did which indicates he might have been one.

I would read the entirety of the Sandy Hook report and then think about the shooting.

I'm not saying that he did, because I have no idea. I know the kid was fvcked up beyond measure -and that undiagnosed schizophrenia would plausibly explain what happened.
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1/1/2014 6:36:26 PM
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At 1/1/2014 6:05:13 PM, YYW wrote:
The laws of physics might take issue with that ;)

The physics police can find me if they want to.

I'm not saying that he did, because I have no idea. I know the kid was fvcked up beyond measure -and that undiagnosed schizophrenia would plausibly explain what happened.

He was autistic. There's copious amounts of evidence for that, including a diagnosis. There's just not anything to suggest he was schizophrenic. The word "schizophrenia" doesn't even appear in the Sandy Hook report.

I don't think anybody is ever going to know why Adam Lanza did it. The evidence is too weak, and many hypotheses can be formed that are all consistent with the evidence. Unless the FBI comes out with something.
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1/1/2014 6:42:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/1/2014 6:36:26 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 1/1/2014 6:05:13 PM, YYW wrote:
The laws of physics might take issue with that ;)

The physics police can find me if they want to.

I'm not saying that he did, because I have no idea. I know the kid was fvcked up beyond measure -and that undiagnosed schizophrenia would plausibly explain what happened.

He was autistic. There's copious amounts of evidence for that, including a diagnosis. There's just not anything to suggest he was schizophrenic. The word "schizophrenia" doesn't even appear in the Sandy Hook report.

And it wouldn't, if Lanza was undiagnosed... but again, I am only speculating on plausible possibilities here -not saying what necessarily is or isn't.

I don't think anybody is ever going to know why Adam Lanza did it. The evidence is too weak, and many hypotheses can be formed that are all consistent with the evidence. Unless the FBI comes out with something.

We'll see what the reports say.... if they say anything.
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1/1/2014 7:00:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/1/2014 6:42:25 PM, YYW wrote:
At 1/1/2014 6:36:26 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 1/1/2014 6:05:13 PM, YYW wrote:
The laws of physics might take issue with that ;)

The physics police can find me if they want to.

I'm not saying that he did, because I have no idea. I know the kid was fvcked up beyond measure -and that undiagnosed schizophrenia would plausibly explain what happened.

He was autistic. There's copious amounts of evidence for that, including a diagnosis. There's just not anything to suggest he was schizophrenic. The word "schizophrenia" doesn't even appear in the Sandy Hook report.

And it wouldn't, if Lanza was undiagnosed... but again, I am only speculating on plausible possibilities here -not saying what necessarily is or isn't.

I don't think anybody is ever going to know why Adam Lanza did it. The evidence is too weak, and many hypotheses can be formed that are all consistent with the evidence. Unless the FBI comes out with something.

We'll see what the reports say.... if they say anything.

I'm not sure if the FBI is releasing a report. The police in Connecticut have already released all of the documents they have and called the investigation over, so there's not much else after that unless the FBI does something. (As a note, the police report is mostly useless. It's thousands of pages, but it's heavily redacted. I spent a lot of time downloading the report when most of it was junk. For example, at least 3/5 of every video of the interior of the school is redacted.)
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1/2/2014 11:43:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/1/2014 5:44:56 PM, Sargon wrote:
At 12/26/2013 12:11:06 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
Anyways, unless it's demonstrated that he's insane, he should get the death penalty in my opinion.

There is no death penalty in Connecticut.

Didn't know that... Thanks for the info! Either way, I still think he deserves the death penalty.
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1/4/2014 5:21:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/30/2013 1:05:49 PM, Thanatos1983 wrote:
I would like to believe there was a reason for the deaths at Sandy Hook. The choice of target was clearly children. Adam could've gone after the staff only, but he specifically focused on the children. Was this life's way of reducing the population of an overcrowded nation? I personally believe it was.

But there are more humane and efficient ways, no?

Natural disasters, for example. Or perhaps a large scale drought that would cause a famine?