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Towards a Deleuzian theory of subreddits

Noumena
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1/11/2014 8:07:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
http://www.reddit.com...

Reddit is one of the most consistently confusing and surprising website I've come across (with few exceptions). Here are some tidbits from a Redditer's application of Deluzian concepts to the website:

"Individuals submit content for others to comment and vote on, the entire system exists solely for the point of herded interaction inside of a given unbreakable framework. "

"If anything at all redditing is actually engaging in 'arboreal' or 'tree-like thinking' which at least in the Deleuzean world is not a good thing. What redditing is is building upon previous constructs in a strictly regulated way."

"Maybe, maybe, subreddits can constitue a series of plateaus, but not really because of the arboreal structure of reddit (and the internet) on the whole."

"No, subreddits are not rhizomatic. Plain and simple. Yes people can come and go as they please but while they are in the subreddit they are expected and required to behave in accordance with the rigid predefined rules and structures of that subreddit. What's more amazing than that, is that that is exactly what people do. As I've said before the point of Deleuze's work is to break out of the herd mindset of rigid regulation (arboreal) thinking. No one wants to be ostracized from the group, so with little to no coecing the super vast majority of people willingly submit themselves to the rules and regulations of whichever land they happen to find themselves in. Sure they can leave at any time they want but that means disconnect from the group which is arguably humanity's greates fear."
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Response: "But the rhizome isn't necessarily transgressive is it? It's a way of describing certain types of connections. Certainly the political reading of the rhizome is to find another mode of networking that acts against the hierarchy of capital and fascism. On reddit, like any other network, there is protocol. Protocol are the rules for the consistency of the network: the ways in which nodes talk. Protocol doesn't seem to be in opposition to rhizomatic connections, rather its necessary to facilitate these connections."

"Another thing that Deleuze what [sic] schizophrenically opposed to was the fascizing or 'hive-mind' elements in revolutionaries or counter cultures. Sure reddit might create an alternate hive-mind to reality (though I severely doubt it does, so much as serve as kind of a reflexive mirror (in a Baudrillard sense) for some of the greater societal 'hive-mind') but in so doing proves itself no better than that hive-mind in and of itself."

So, thoughts? Opinions? Applications of this line of thought, perhaps, to the website we all currently find ourselves on?
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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1/11/2014 10:49:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
No takers?

This forum is nowhere near Continental enough.

http://media.tumblr.com...
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
Noumena
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1/11/2014 11:02:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 11:00:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 1/11/2014 10:49:41 PM, Noumena wrote:
No takers?

This forum is nowhere near Continental enough.

http://media.tumblr.com...

Let me fix that for you:

http://cdn.memegenerator.net...

That's not true. It's not just French!
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
YYW
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1/11/2014 11:17:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 11:02:43 PM, Noumena wrote:
At 1/11/2014 11:00:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 1/11/2014 10:49:41 PM, Noumena wrote:
No takers?

This forum is nowhere near Continental enough.

http://media.tumblr.com...

Let me fix that for you:

http://cdn.memegenerator.net...

That's not true. It's not just French!

http://cdn.memegenerator.net...
Tsar of DDO
Noumena
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1/11/2014 11:24:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 11:17:30 PM, YYW wrote:
At 1/11/2014 11:02:43 PM, Noumena wrote:
At 1/11/2014 11:00:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 1/11/2014 10:49:41 PM, Noumena wrote:
No takers?

This forum is nowhere near Continental enough.

http://media.tumblr.com...

Let me fix that for you:

http://cdn.memegenerator.net...

That's not true. It's not just French!

http://cdn.memegenerator.net...

Zizek is there mainly for entertainment tbh.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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1/11/2014 11:25:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 11:18:51 PM, YYW wrote:
http://cdn.memegenerator.net...

Dude that's what Deleuze is for.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
YYW
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1/11/2014 11:29:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 11:24:01 PM, Noumena wrote:
At 1/11/2014 11:17:30 PM, YYW wrote:
At 1/11/2014 11:02:43 PM, Noumena wrote:
At 1/11/2014 11:00:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 1/11/2014 10:49:41 PM, Noumena wrote:
No takers?

This forum is nowhere near Continental enough.

http://media.tumblr.com...

Let me fix that for you:

http://cdn.memegenerator.net...

That's not true. It's not just French!

http://cdn.memegenerator.net...

Zizek is there mainly for entertainment tbh.

I just thought you might appreciate these memes... fun stuff, lol...
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Noumena
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1/11/2014 11:34:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 11:29:26 PM, YYW wrote:
At 1/11/2014 11:24:01 PM, Noumena wrote:
At 1/11/2014 11:17:30 PM, YYW wrote:
At 1/11/2014 11:02:43 PM, Noumena wrote:
At 1/11/2014 11:00:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 1/11/2014 10:49:41 PM, Noumena wrote:
No takers?

This forum is nowhere near Continental enough.

http://media.tumblr.com...

Let me fix that for you:

http://cdn.memegenerator.net...

That's not true. It's not just French!

http://cdn.memegenerator.net...

Zizek is there mainly for entertainment tbh.

I just thought you might appreciate these memes... fun stuff, lol...

On the one hand I really do love playfully sh'tting on what I hope to someday be my primary field of study, though on the other I wish more people on DDO wanted to talk about that Reddit post.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
YYW
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1/11/2014 11:44:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/11/2014 8:07:39 PM, Noumena wrote:
http://www.reddit.com...

Reddit is one of the most consistently confusing and surprising website I've come across (with few exceptions). Here are some tidbits from a Redditer's application of Deluzian concepts to the website:

"Individuals submit content for others to comment and vote on, the entire system exists solely for the point of herded interaction inside of a given unbreakable framework. "

I hear they're quite strict there, about that sort of thing. Post an "awww" pic that should have just been "funny" and they will hate you forever.

"If anything at all redditing is actually engaging in 'arboreal' or 'tree-like thinking' which at least in the Deleuzean world is not a good thing. What redditing is is building upon previous constructs in a strictly regulated way."

Basing my response only on this sentence, I think that if tree-like thinking is the only way that human thought existed, that would be problematic as it would be inherently static insofar as it could not reasonably -and I'll say this more or less sketchily, as best I can at this hour- break through to new intellectual ground. (again, you'll forgive how cheesy that sounds.) But, in recognizing this particular kind of thought -which really is nothing more than a collaborative process of shared interests across an array of subjects in space and time- for what it is, that, to me, only incentivizes the need for both systemic and non/post/supra-systemic creativity (meaning that it's an incentive to work both in and outside of reddit's framework -both on and off reddit).

"Maybe, maybe, subreddits can constitue a series of plateaus, but not really because of the arboreal structure of reddit (and the internet) on the whole."

I don't think that's a sufficient way to characterize the conceptual model. I can grant that subreddits does function in a sort of arboreal software apparatus, but not as plateaus, because subreddits structurally are more akin to limbs and branches (which are continually growing, not flat and still part of a greater whole). I also think that that analogy cannot, in any reasonable or meaningful way be amplified to apply to the entire internet.

I'm done with this for now. I'll pick it up later... or maybe I won't. That's enough to work on for now.
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