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2/28/2014 11:59:59 PM
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Post books/articles you happen to come across (only interesting ones tho).
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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3/1/2014 8:16:51 AM
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'The Tombs' Clive Cussler.
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3/1/2014 11:47:17 AM
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At 3/1/2014 8:16:51 AM, Iredia wrote:
'The Tombs' Clive Cussler.

Not really philosophy but ok
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
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3/1/2014 12:01:04 PM
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This: http://www.scribd.com....

Though it's just a summary of the progress of philosophical inquiry on the subject of consciousness. Not really interesting if you already know, I guess.
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3/1/2014 2:03:49 PM
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At 2/28/2014 11:59:59 PM, Noumena wrote:
Post books/articles you happen to come across (only interesting ones tho).

I'm going to read Existential Inertia and the Five Ways by Edward Feser.
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3/1/2014 3:00:19 PM
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At 3/1/2014 11:47:17 AM, Noumena wrote:
At 3/1/2014 8:16:51 AM, Iredia wrote:
'The Tombs' Clive Cussler.

Not really philosophy but ok

I read philosophical works. Just not at the moment.
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3/1/2014 3:15:07 PM
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At 2/28/2014 11:59:59 PM, Noumena wrote:
Post books/articles you happen to come across (only interesting ones tho).

Thucydides - History of the Peloponnesian war.

Sun Tzu - Art of war

Shang Yang - The book of Shang Yang
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3/1/2014 7:12:53 PM
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At 2/28/2014 11:59:59 PM, Noumena wrote:
Post books/articles you happen to come across (only interesting ones tho).

I've been trying to read some of the Analects every day.

Apart from that, I just finished Liang Shuming's The Essence of Chinese Culture. I've started on The Experience of Life (my own translation of the title; can't find an official one) by Tang Junyi.
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3/1/2014 7:36:28 PM
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Why Abortion is Immoral by atheist philosopher Don Marquis

http://faculty.polytechnic.org...
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3/1/2014 7:37:54 PM
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I also plan to buy Scholastic Metaphysics by Edward Feser.

http://www.amazon.com...
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3/2/2014 7:17:46 AM
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At 3/1/2014 7:37:54 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
I also plan to buy Scholastic Metaphysics by Edward Feser.

http://www.amazon.com...: http://www.amazon.com...: http://www.amazon.com...: http://www.amazon.com...
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3/2/2014 7:19:33 AM
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At 3/1/2014 7:37:54 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
I also plan to buy Scholastic Metaphysics by Edward Feser.

http://www.amazon.com...

Whatchamacall this thing you have for Feser ?
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3/2/2014 7:22:36 AM
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Right now: Peter Kropotkin - The Conquest of Bread
Abortion Is Generally Morally Reprehensible: http://www.debate.org...

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3/2/2014 8:21:02 AM
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Tech manuals as usual. I find them very interesting and educational.
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3/2/2014 2:40:34 PM
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At 3/2/2014 7:19:33 AM, Iredia wrote:
At 3/1/2014 7:37:54 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
I also plan to buy Scholastic Metaphysics by Edward Feser.

http://www.amazon.com...

Whatchamacall this thing you have for Feser ?

Lol, well he's an excellent classicist and probably one of the best popular Thomists atm.
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3/3/2014 8:33:29 AM
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A Quasi-Metaphysical Account of the Epistemological Foundations of the Revolutionary Code, by Count Norvilas
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3/3/2014 10:25:34 PM
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When I was in college, my philosophy teacher insisted that before I graduate, I write a paper having something to do with continental philosophy. He recommended Martin Heidegger's book Kant and the Problem of Metaphysics, which was an interpretation of Kant's view of metaphysics.

Since metaphysics is the study of reality, I decided to call my paper, "Sam's interpretation of Heidegger's interpretation of Kant's interpretation of reality."

I vowed never to waste another minute reading anything by Martin Heidegger. Stupid me suffered through two of his books before coming to my senses.
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3/3/2014 11:26:28 PM
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At 3/3/2014 10:25:34 PM, philochristos wrote:
When I was in college, my philosophy teacher insisted that before I graduate, I write a paper having something to do with continental philosophy. He recommended Martin Heidegger's book Kant and the Problem of Metaphysics, which was an interpretation of Kant's view of metaphysics.

Since metaphysics is the study of reality, I decided to call my paper, "Sam's interpretation of Heidegger's interpretation of Kant's interpretation of reality."

I vowed never to waste another minute reading anything by Martin Heidegger. Stupid me suffered through two of his books before coming to my senses.

It's really hard not to write a condescending response to this post.
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3/4/2014 8:48:42 AM
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At 3/1/2014 7:36:28 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
Why Abortion is Immoral by atheist philosopher Don Marquis

http://faculty.polytechnic.org...

Is Don Marquis an atheist? Where did you read that?
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3/4/2014 8:50:17 AM
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At 3/4/2014 8:48:42 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 3/1/2014 7:36:28 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
Why Abortion is Immoral by atheist philosopher Don Marquis

http://faculty.polytechnic.org...

Is Don Marquis an atheist? Where did you read that?

Unitedandy told me about the argument, and that it's written by an atheist. He's an atheist as well so I think he would know... but I just googled it, and it looks like Marquis is indeed an atheist. Interesting, huh?
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3/4/2014 8:55:11 AM
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At 3/4/2014 8:48:42 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 3/1/2014 7:36:28 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
Why Abortion is Immoral by atheist philosopher Don Marquis

http://faculty.polytechnic.org...

Is Don Marquis an atheist? Where did you read that?

Here's an interesting debate between Peter Singer and Don Marquis about infanticide and abortion.

I still find it hard to believe Singer even defends infanticide and the stuff he does...
"Delete your fvcking sig" -1hard

"primal man had the habit, when he came into contact with fire, of satisfying the infantile desire connected with it, by putting it out with a stream of his urine... Putting out the fire by micturating was therefore a kind of sexual act with a male, an enjoyment of sexual potency in a homosexual competition."
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3/4/2014 9:05:13 AM
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At 3/4/2014 8:50:17 AM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 3/4/2014 8:48:42 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 3/1/2014 7:36:28 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
Why Abortion is Immoral by atheist philosopher Don Marquis

http://faculty.polytechnic.org...

Is Don Marquis an atheist? Where did you read that?

Unitedandy told me about the argument, and that it's written by an atheist. He's an atheist as well so I think he would know... but I just googled it, and it looks like Marquis is indeed an atheist. Interesting, huh?

I see a bunch of people claiming Marquis is an atheist, but I don't see anything referring to a statement by marquis himself.

It really isn't relevant to anything, I just thought it was interesting.
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3/4/2014 9:08:15 AM
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At 3/2/2014 8:21:02 AM, sadolite wrote:
Tech manuals as usual. I find them very interesting and educational.

Somehow this doesn't surprise me.
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3/4/2014 10:16:08 AM
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At 3/4/2014 9:05:13 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 3/4/2014 8:50:17 AM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 3/4/2014 8:48:42 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 3/1/2014 7:36:28 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
Why Abortion is Immoral by atheist philosopher Don Marquis

http://faculty.polytechnic.org...

Is Don Marquis an atheist? Where did you read that?

Unitedandy told me about the argument, and that it's written by an atheist. He's an atheist as well so I think he would know... but I just googled it, and it looks like Marquis is indeed an atheist. Interesting, huh?

I see a bunch of people claiming Marquis is an atheist, but I don't see anything referring to a statement by marquis himself.

It really isn't relevant to anything, I just thought it was interesting.

Good to see that paper here, it is really good.

I was actually under the impression that Marquis was a catholic, because of his other writings. But after some quick Google research it seems that he is a atheist/agnostic indeed. Here is a direct quote, though its reliability is uncertain. http://m.alestlelive.com... But I never understood the presumption that if you are an atheist it kind of logically follows you are pro-choice. I do not agree anyway. There are some more prominent atheist thinkers like Christopher Hitchens, Arif Ahmed and Robert Price who are known to be pro-life. And to hear someone defending infanticide is just unreal.
Abortion Is Generally Morally Reprehensible: http://www.debate.org...

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3/4/2014 2:16:30 PM
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At 3/4/2014 10:16:08 AM, Fox-McCloud wrote:
At 3/4/2014 9:05:13 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 3/4/2014 8:50:17 AM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 3/4/2014 8:48:42 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 3/1/2014 7:36:28 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
Why Abortion is Immoral by atheist philosopher Don Marquis

http://faculty.polytechnic.org...

Is Don Marquis an atheist? Where did you read that?

Unitedandy told me about the argument, and that it's written by an atheist. He's an atheist as well so I think he would know... but I just googled it, and it looks like Marquis is indeed an atheist. Interesting, huh?

I see a bunch of people claiming Marquis is an atheist, but I don't see anything referring to a statement by marquis himself.

It really isn't relevant to anything, I just thought it was interesting.

Good to see that paper here, it is really good.

I was actually under the impression that Marquis was a catholic, because of his other writings. But after some quick Google research it seems that he is a atheist/agnostic indeed. Here is a direct quote, though its reliability is uncertain. http://m.alestlelive.com... But I never understood the presumption that if you are an atheist it kind of logically follows you are pro-choice. I do not agree anyway. There are some more prominent atheist thinkers like Christopher Hitchens, Arif Ahmed and Robert Price who are known to be pro-life. And to hear someone defending infanticide is just unreal.

I agree nothing about the atheist position entails a position on abortion or end of life care. I was also under the impression he was catholic and I was just curious to hear otherwise.

I think it is fine to defend infanticide. There is a difference between defending the ethical permissibility of something and advocating it. Many pro abortion arguments lead to the conclusion that infanticide is ok, it should be a part of the public discourse to address it.

I guess by the same measure I think it is ok to defend any number of outrageous positions. Discourse is how philosophy happens.
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3/4/2014 2:43:01 PM
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At 3/4/2014 2:16:30 PM, Raisor wrote:
At 3/4/2014 10:16:08 AM, Fox-McCloud wrote:
At 3/4/2014 9:05:13 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 3/4/2014 8:50:17 AM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 3/4/2014 8:48:42 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 3/1/2014 7:36:28 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
Why Abortion is Immoral by atheist philosopher Don Marquis

http://faculty.polytechnic.org...

Is Don Marquis an atheist? Where did you read that?

Unitedandy told me about the argument, and that it's written by an atheist. He's an atheist as well so I think he would know... but I just googled it, and it looks like Marquis is indeed an atheist. Interesting, huh?

I see a bunch of people claiming Marquis is an atheist, but I don't see anything referring to a statement by marquis himself.

It really isn't relevant to anything, I just thought it was interesting.

Good to see that paper here, it is really good.

I was actually under the impression that Marquis was a catholic, because of his other writings. But after some quick Google research it seems that he is a atheist/agnostic indeed. Here is a direct quote, though its reliability is uncertain. http://m.alestlelive.com... But I never understood the presumption that if you are an atheist it kind of logically follows you are pro-choice. I do not agree anyway. There are some more prominent atheist thinkers like Christopher Hitchens, Arif Ahmed and Robert Price who are known to be pro-life. And to hear someone defending infanticide is just unreal.

I agree nothing about the atheist position entails a position on abortion or end of life care. I was also under the impression he was catholic and I was just curious to hear otherwise.

I think it is fine to defend infanticide. There is a difference between defending the ethical permissibility of something and advocating it. Many pro abortion arguments lead to the conclusion that infanticide is ok, it should be a part of the public discourse to address it.

I guess by the same measure I think it is ok to defend any number of outrageous positions. Discourse is how philosophy happens.

I think that was your 1000th post, congratulations. And yes, you are right, I fully agree with you. In the search for truth, nothing should be left unquestioned. No taboo should be avoided. And we should follow our premises to their logical consequences, even if they will be unacceptable in the end.
Abortion Is Generally Morally Reprehensible: http://www.debate.org...

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3/4/2014 3:47:06 PM
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At 3/4/2014 8:55:11 AM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 3/4/2014 8:48:42 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 3/1/2014 7:36:28 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
Why Abortion is Immoral by atheist philosopher Don Marquis

http://faculty.polytechnic.org...

Is Don Marquis an atheist? Where did you read that?

Here's an interesting debate between Peter Singer and Don Marquis about infanticide and abortion.

I still find it hard to believe Singer even defends infanticide and the stuff he does...

People defend weird things. We had one here who ventured to defend pedophilia and incest. Liberals had better firmly keep in mind the need for limits as conservatists have echoed, Singer's messed-up dream of a society might result.
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3/4/2014 3:49:06 PM
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At 3/4/2014 3:47:06 PM, Iredia wrote:
At 3/4/2014 8:55:11 AM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 3/4/2014 8:48:42 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 3/1/2014 7:36:28 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
Why Abortion is Immoral by atheist philosopher Don Marquis

http://faculty.polytechnic.org...

Is Don Marquis an atheist? Where did you read that?

Here's an interesting debate between Peter Singer and Don Marquis about infanticide and abortion.

I still find it hard to believe Singer even defends infanticide and the stuff he does...


People defend weird things. We had one here who ventured to defend pedophilia and incest. Liberals had better firmly keep in mind the need for limits as conservatists have echoed, Singer's messed-up dream of a society might result.

Yeah, I think I remember that guy... Anyways, pedophilia is still off-limits thank God.. at least for now it is.
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"primal man had the habit, when he came into contact with fire, of satisfying the infantile desire connected with it, by putting it out with a stream of his urine... Putting out the fire by micturating was therefore a kind of sexual act with a male, an enjoyment of sexual potency in a homosexual competition."