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What is Induction?

Vernich
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3/1/2014 12:47:34 AM
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I'll wait until a sufficient amount of responses pile up until I show why they're all wrong.
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3/1/2014 12:52:11 AM
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Something that Hume and Popper liked to talk about.
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3/1/2014 4:27:02 AM
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At 3/1/2014 12:47:34 AM, Vernich wrote:
I'll wait until a sufficient amount of responses pile up until I show why they're all wrong.

Being induced
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3/1/2014 4:53:55 AM
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It can tell you this much, it really sucks.

It's all very confusing, but afterward you go to Viet Nam to be gut shot.
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3/1/2014 8:11:20 AM
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Induction? If one is a good Humeian (not a typo- although it certainly* looks like one)- then we are talking about "habits of mind".

If you are speaking of those who labor in the sciences- then we are talikng about a tool of their trade.

If, instead, we are talikng about your average "Joe" - no offense to all the Joes out there then we are making mention of an essential feature of their conceptual apparatus.

If, however, we are speaking in term of philosophic rigor, and the forum's title begs the obvious question- then we are speaking about an unjustified philosophic conceit for knowledge. Irrespective of it's obvious practical utility.

* the use of "certainly" in the same sentence of "Hume" - made me chuckle.
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3/2/2014 8:23:07 AM
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What is Induction? The process by which high frequency waves are used to heat metal
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3/2/2014 12:42:05 PM
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Induction is when you extrapolate from particular examples to general principles.
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3/2/2014 12:56:57 PM
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At 3/2/2014 12:42:05 PM, philochristos wrote:
Induction is when you extrapolate from particular examples to general principles.

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3/2/2014 1:06:49 PM
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At 3/2/2014 12:42:05 PM, philochristos wrote:
Induction is when you extrapolate from particular examples to general principles.

NOW we're getting somewhere ... and this is the structure that's the problem, right?
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3/2/2014 1:06:51 PM
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At 3/1/2014 4:53:55 AM, Sidewalker wrote:
It can tell you this much, it really sucks.

It's all very confusing, but afterward you go to Viet Nam to be gut shot.

Full metal jacket?
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3/2/2014 4:59:25 PM
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At 3/1/2014 12:47:34 AM, Vernich wrote:
I'll wait until a sufficient amount of responses pile up until I show why they're all wrong.

Induction is a reasoning process where you draw in your conclusion more than the premises contain. Philochristos says it's reasoning from particulars to universals. I agree that this is typically how it plays out, but this isn't how you identify inductive reasoning.

Inductive arguments aren't "sound" they're "cogent." The conclusion doesn't follow "with necessity" it just gives us good reason to believe something is true.

Also, why the "until I show why they're all wrong"? It sounds like your ego is bigger than the wad of redman chewing tobacco I have in my mouth....
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3/2/2014 5:01:27 PM
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But I'd like to add that inductive arguments are typically structured like deductive ones.

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My son is a baby
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3/2/2014 5:50:20 PM
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At 3/2/2014 5:01:27 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
But I'd like to add that inductive arguments are typically structured like deductive ones.

Most babies cry at some time
My son is a baby
.'. My son will cry at some time

I wonder how the resolution of contradicting arguments comes about.

Let's take the extension:

1. Most crying babies have a voice box
2. My baby son has no voicebox
C. My son therefore will not cry at some time

I'm not sure what the philosophical resolution of this is, even though the answer is obvious.
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3/2/2014 7:15:56 PM
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At 3/2/2014 4:59:25 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 3/1/2014 12:47:34 AM, Vernich wrote:
I'll wait until a sufficient amount of responses pile up until I show why they're all wrong.

Induction is a reasoning process where you draw in your conclusion more than the premises contain. Philochristos says it's reasoning from particulars to universals. I agree that this is typically how it plays out, but this isn't how you identify inductive reasoning.

Inductive arguments aren't "sound" they're "cogent." The conclusion doesn't follow "with necessity" it just gives us good reason to believe something is true.

Also, why the "until I show why they're all wrong"? It sounds like your ego is bigger than the wad of redman chewing tobacco I have in my mouth....

And the problem touches on the proper warrant for a good inductive argument. Maybe this is the thread everyone should start tugging on?

And the the ego is, comparatively, a good match :--)
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