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The Purpose of Debate?

Geogeer
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3/24/2014 10:18:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/24/2014 9:39:58 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Why do we debate? What is it's purpose?

Debating is a search for the truth. Each side puts forth their best arguments and attempts to pick apart the other side's argument.
Kleptin
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3/24/2014 10:36:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
In the pursuit of truth, people will develop their own prejudices, and erect barriers around their minds.

Debate is the art of using communication to effectively break down the walls of prejudice.

The debater acknowledges that the beauty of the art comes from the process, not from the product. What we say is based on the works of others: Philosophers, Scientists, Theologians, etc. HOW we say it, is what we contribute as debaters.

No, we don't debate to seek the truth. We debate to find the best way to present it when it is found by others.
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3/24/2014 11:02:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/24/2014 9:39:58 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Why do we debate? What is it's purpose?

We debate to persuade others, to deepen and sharpen our understanding of our own thoughts, to learn from others and because argumentation can be fun.
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3/25/2014 8:31:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/24/2014 9:39:58 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Why do we debate? What is it's purpose?

This is why:

http://www.debate.org...
Resolved: the Zombie Apocalypse Will Happen
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The most basic living cell was Intelligently Designed:
http://www.debate.org...

God most likely exists:
http://www.debate.org...
AnDoctuir
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3/25/2014 8:42:28 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
It is, plain and simply, manipulation - an attempt at imposition upon the physical by mental faculty; or, in the case people racking up debate numbers online, a fostering that ability.

Kleptin makes himself out as primarily some champion of truth, but this is not the case. All is with regards to the satiation of feelings. There is no truth to feelings; they just are. Feelings may, however, lead you to truth.
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3/25/2014 8:43:33 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/24/2014 9:39:58 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Why do we debate? What is it's purpose?

I debate primarily for entertainment.
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3/25/2014 7:07:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/24/2014 9:39:58 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Why do we debate? What is it's purpose?

Why do we debate is a different question than what the purpose of debate is.

If A is regularly the efficient cause of B, then B is the final cause of A.

Debate is essentially two opposing views both trying to convince each other. Either one person is correct, or the other is correct. So the purpose of debate is to show what the truth is, and to convince someone else of this.

However, this doesn't mean that's the reason we debate. I debate because I like it.

It's like when you have sex... you're probably doing it because you like having sex, but the purpose of sex is to make babies, lol.
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3/25/2014 7:08:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/25/2014 8:31:56 AM, Sswdwm wrote:
At 3/24/2014 9:39:58 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Why do we debate? What is it's purpose?

This is why:

http://www.debate.org...

Right. We debate to get on the homepage of DDO ;) hehe
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3/25/2014 7:11:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/25/2014 7:08:34 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 3/25/2014 8:31:56 AM, Sswdwm wrote:
At 3/24/2014 9:39:58 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Why do we debate? What is it's purpose?

This is why:

http://www.debate.org...

Right. We debate to get on the homepage of DDO ;) hehe

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God most likely exists:
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Mr_Man
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3/26/2014 6:37:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I think that the purpose of debate is to influence another person's decisions. This can be done in various ways: logically (Logos method), emotionally (Pathos method), and authoritatively (Ethos method).

Each of these methods allow different audiences to be addressed. The Logos method allows for a logical sequence of thought to be recognized. The Pathos method allows for a personal connection with the desired audience. The Ethos method allows for the audience to recognize the speaker as a more important and respectable entity.

By using these methods correctly, along with subcategories of each method, one can successfully influence another person's decisions.
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5/21/2014 9:58:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Ignorance isn"t bliss, as Kenrick Lamar says in his "99 hit, rather it"s actually a utopian idea. Not knowing something may make one happier initially, but this so called happiness is only temporary. One simply cannot live life freely and truly without questioning anything, or maintaining a so called "innocence". The best form of questioning is debating, and one does so in order to increase one"s own awareness.

Debating can be beneficial in a variety of ways. To begin with, debating connects all different types of people from all different types of places, on the premisses of specific issues. Such behavior can encourage a sense of unity amongst the masses. Similarly, debating allows one to clearly see both the pro and the con approach to an argument. In adequately addressing both sides of a topic, understanding of the topic itself is increased.

Debating can appeal to the masses in a variety of diverse ways. Firstly, it can even become a hobby. Participating in "forums" and discussions can even be addicting to some. Secondly, it seems almost inscribed in us as humans, and in myself as a teenager, that natural tendencies to argue arise. These tendencies can be appeased by means of debate. Additionally, extending to apply to such a broad scheme of topics, debating can appeal to all different ages. Those young and old alike can find interest in debating.
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5/21/2014 10:19:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
The purpose and the conclusion are radically different.

Quite often, debates limit themselves in such a way that the "pursuit of truth" cannot be accomplished, and instead barriers are erected in a way that can limit one or both parties from having a meaningful debate.

To me, debate has instead been about resolving matters. Regardless of whether they were resolved correctly, the debates nevertheless accomplish their purpose.
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5/21/2014 10:32:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/21/2014 10:19:52 PM, PeacefulChaos wrote:
The purpose and the conclusion are radically different.

Quite often, debates limit themselves in such a way that the "pursuit of truth" cannot be accomplished, and instead barriers are erected in a way that can limit one or both parties from having a meaningful debate.

To me, debate has instead been about resolving matters. Regardless of whether they were resolved correctly, the debates nevertheless accomplish their purpose.

No. The purpose of duh bait is to catch the fish.
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5/21/2014 10:34:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/21/2014 10:32:05 PM, tbhidc wrote:
At 5/21/2014 10:19:52 PM, PeacefulChaos wrote:
The purpose and the conclusion are radically different.

Quite often, debates limit themselves in such a way that the "pursuit of truth" cannot be accomplished, and instead barriers are erected in a way that can limit one or both parties from having a meaningful debate.

To me, debate has instead been about resolving matters. Regardless of whether they were resolved correctly, the debates nevertheless accomplish their purpose.

No. The purpose of duh bait is to catch the fish.

I thought you were supposed to eat it ... whoops.
tbhidc
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5/21/2014 10:52:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/21/2014 10:34:14 PM, PeacefulChaos wrote:
At 5/21/2014 10:32:05 PM, tbhidc wrote:
At 5/21/2014 10:19:52 PM, PeacefulChaos wrote:
The purpose and the conclusion are radically different.

Quite often, debates limit themselves in such a way that the "pursuit of truth" cannot be accomplished, and instead barriers are erected in a way that can limit one or both parties from having a meaningful debate.

To me, debate has instead been about resolving matters. Regardless of whether they were resolved correctly, the debates nevertheless accomplish their purpose.

No. The purpose of duh bait is to catch the fish.

I thought you were supposed to eat it ... whoops.

just as long as its not already on the hook, captain hook ;-)