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B theory of time and death?

n7
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4/29/2014 12:37:21 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
This may seem like a stupid question. If the passage of time is an illusion created by our consciousness, what happens when our consciousness dies? We still exist, but we just don't out perceive time at that moment, so do we perceive moments of time before our death? What would happen?
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4/29/2014 3:39:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 3:04:50 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
If B-Theory is true, then your death is just as real as right "now".

I know, but what will I perceive when this apparent present comes to my death?
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4/29/2014 3:44:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 3:39:30 PM, n7 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 3:04:50 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
If B-Theory is true, then your death is just as real as right "now".

I know, but what will I perceive when this apparent present comes to my death?

Nothing... You'll be dead! lol
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4/29/2014 3:44:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 3:44:16 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 3:39:30 PM, n7 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 3:04:50 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
If B-Theory is true, then your death is just as real as right "now".

I know, but what will I perceive when this apparent present comes to my death?

Nothing... You'll be dead! lol

Won't I still be alive in some sense?
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4/29/2014 3:55:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 3:44:42 PM, n7 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 3:44:16 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 3:39:30 PM, n7 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 3:04:50 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
If B-Theory is true, then your death is just as real as right "now".

I know, but what will I perceive when this apparent present comes to my death?

Nothing... You'll be dead! lol

Won't I still be alive in some sense?

Yes, but whatever you call "I" just won't feel it.
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4/29/2014 5:25:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 3:55:51 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 3:44:42 PM, n7 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 3:44:16 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 3:39:30 PM, n7 wrote:
At 4/29/2014 3:04:50 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
If B-Theory is true, then your death is just as real as right "now".

I know, but what will I perceive when this apparent present comes to my death?

Nothing... You'll be dead! lol

Won't I still be alive in some sense?

Yes, but whatever you call "I" just won't feel it.

But doesn't the "I" still exist? Or is the "I" in A-series time?
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5/1/2014 8:14:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
You can't have two things in one place at the same time.
Time is nothing more than a wall between things and events.

Picture a giant Archimedes screw. It's a billion miles long, and you are standing half a billion miles along it's length. It has no blemishes. There is no way to see when it has made one complete revolution. It just turns.

That is the universe without an observer.

Water ripples and bubbles all along the screw. The water seems to be moving in one direction, but the screw seems to be moving in the other direction. Which direction is real? Both. The water came from somewhere, and for as far as you can see there is more water. The water is flowing somewhere, and for as far as you can see there is more water.
But, the only water we can do anything with is the water that is right in front of us.
Yet, anything we do to the water in front of us will effect the water in both directions.
If we slap some water away from in front of us, then a spot of no water will continue along in the flow. Also, to some smaller degree, the water behind where we slapped will dam up just a bit.

That is more like B theory.
However, we have no way to travel half a billion miles back to the source. The source may have run out a year ago. We can not effect that in any way. Half a billion miles in the other direction a lake has gathered. We have no way to effect that until we get there.
But either way, it's the same now at the beginning of the screw, as it is at the end of the screw.
in other words, there is only one thing. The universe.
No matter the size, there is no issue with having two things in one place at the same time, because there is only one thing.
Time is a construct of consciousness and exists as a semantic exercise of self identity.
In other words....We pretend for the purpose of self identity, that we are separate from the universe, and we created time for the purpose of ridding ourselves of the cognitive dissonance that self identity creates.

My opinion is that death does not destroy self identity, it only changes self identity.
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