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Adam_Godzilla
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6/9/2014 8:16:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I made a debate called There IS no objective reality. There I argue that it is impossible to prove that reality exists objectively regardless of there being a human or an observer. Similar to the saying, 'if a tree falls in a forest and no one is there, does it make a sound?

Well of course it does. But if you had no way of accessing or observing this forest. If this forest was say, for example, in a force field that closed it from any outside environment and this field blocked light and blocked anything from coming in and out. Could you really prove what state the forest is in or even whether it still exists?

The debate has been closed after 2 rounds but it still has equal arguments from both side. It is not in voting period yet but the debate is finished.

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6/9/2014 8:51:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 8:16:02 PM, Adam_Godzilla wrote:
I made a debate called There IS no objective reality. There I argue that it is impossible to prove that reality exists objectively regardless of there being a human or an observer. Similar to the saying, 'if a tree falls in a forest and no one is there, does it make a sound?

Claiming it's impossible to prove an objective reality is different from claiming it doesn't exist. Concluding solipsism is a fallacy fallacy. Also you can't defend solipsism. If you tell me solipsism is true, I don't think Oh god you're right only your mind exists. I immediately know you are wrong because I have access to my mind. You know my solipsism is wrong because you have access to your mind.

Well of course it does. But if you had no way of accessing or observing this forest. If this forest was say, for example, in a force field that closed it from any outside environment and this field blocked light and blocked anything from coming in and out. Could you really prove what state the forest is in or even whether it still exists?

The debate has been closed after 2 rounds but it still has equal arguments from both side. It is not in voting period yet but the debate is finished.

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6/9/2014 10:28:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/9/2014 8:51:50 PM, n7 wrote:
At 6/9/2014 8:16:02 PM, Adam_Godzilla wrote:
I made a debate called There IS no objective reality. There I argue that it is impossible to prove that reality exists objectively regardless of there being a human or an observer. Similar to the saying, 'if a tree falls in a forest and no one is there, does it make a sound?

Claiming it's impossible to prove an objective reality is different from claiming it doesn't exist.
; That wasn't my resolution.
Concluding solipsism is a fallacy fallacy. Also you can't defend solipsism. If you tell me solipsism is true, I don't think Oh god you're right only your mind exists. I immediately know you are wrong because I have access to my mind. You know my solipsism is wrong because you have access to your mind.
I was defending a solipsist idea.
Well of course it does. But if you had no way of accessing or observing this forest. If this forest was say, for example, in a force field that closed it from any outside environment and this field blocked light and blocked anything from coming in and out. Could you really prove what state the forest is in or even whether it still exists?

The debate has been closed after 2 rounds but it still has equal arguments from both side. It is not in voting period yet but the debate is finished.

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