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ChristianPunk
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6/13/2014 6:21:35 PM
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This might be very dumb, but i'm thinking of learning about this subject on my own, but I can't really figure out what philosophy means or what kind of questions involve philosophy. Can anybody explain?
dylancatlow
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6/13/2014 8:15:14 PM
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It's not a dumb question, but you really didn't need to make a thread to get an answer. "Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language."
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6/14/2014 10:18:35 PM
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At 6/13/2014 8:15:14 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
It's not a dumb question, but you really didn't need to make a thread to get an answer. "Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language."

And what do philosophers do exactly? I don't know if they are like regular scientists who use material observations, but do philosophers do that or are they somewhat spiritual in a sense (and by spiritual, I don't mean religious wise).
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6/15/2014 3:47:35 PM
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At 6/13/2014 6:21:35 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
This might be very dumb, but i'm thinking of learning about this subject on my own, but I can't really figure out what philosophy means or what kind of questions involve philosophy. Can anybody explain?

Philosophy is the activity of error-checking our tools of reasoning. It's a kind of mix between narrative construction, semantic analysis and heuristics; we try to assess our tools and what we build with them in order to create ever more useful and (hopefully) accurate ones.
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6/15/2014 8:59:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/15/2014 8:31:32 PM, ChosenWolff wrote:
The study of nature using reason and logic.

"The relationship of philosophy to science is the same to the relationship of masturbation and sex"
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6/17/2014 5:16:34 PM
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At 6/15/2014 8:30:28 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Metaphysical thinking = Philosophy

Metaphysical Thinking?
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6/17/2014 5:29:03 PM
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At 6/17/2014 5:16:34 PM, Dazz wrote:
At 6/15/2014 8:30:28 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Metaphysical thinking = Philosophy

Metaphysical Thinking?

Non-physical I suppose
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6/17/2014 5:31:20 PM
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At 6/17/2014 5:29:03 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 6/17/2014 5:16:34 PM, Dazz wrote:
At 6/15/2014 8:30:28 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Metaphysical thinking = Philosophy

Metaphysical Thinking?

Non-physical I suppose

Sorry to disturb you, but I think thinking is already non-physical, isn't it?
Remove the "I want", remainder is the "peace". ~Al-Ghazali~
"This time will also pass", a dose to cure both; the excitement & the grievance. ~Ayaz~
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6/17/2014 11:28:16 PM
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At 6/17/2014 5:31:20 PM, Dazz wrote:
At 6/17/2014 5:29:03 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 6/17/2014 5:16:34 PM, Dazz wrote:
At 6/15/2014 8:30:28 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Metaphysical thinking = Philosophy

Metaphysical Thinking?

Non-physical I suppose

Sorry to disturb you, but I think thinking is already non-physical, isn't it?

Sure.
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sadolite
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6/18/2014 8:31:52 PM
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"What is Philosophy?" Just doing the right thing.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
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6/18/2014 10:25:46 PM
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A good way to look at philosophy is to break it down into its constituents. There are five main inquiries:
1) Metaphysics
2) Ethics
3) Logic
4) Aesthetics
5) Epistemology

My suggestion would be to familiarize yourself with these terms (just wiki each one). It helps a LOT, when discussing philosophy, to be able to identify which one of these five categories you are actually in whilst having a discussion with somebody else ;)
Beliefs in a nutshell:
- The Ends never justify the Means.
- Objectivity is secondary to subjectivity.
- The War on Drugs is the worst policy in the U.S.
- Most people worship technology as a religion.
- Computers will never become sentient.
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6/18/2014 10:35:26 PM
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Etymologically speaking (the historical meaning of the word traced back through its origination), it means the love of wisdom. It came from the Greek words phileo and Sophia. Phileo meaning love and Sophia meaning wisdom.

I like to refer to it as questioning things. Is this right? Is that wrong? Why is this? What could be improved? What is our purpose? Philosophers seek to answer these questions. Everyone has their "own" philosophy on how to do things and how to live their life. Whether they build this philosophy through television commercials and social media or books written by professional philosophers is up to the person.
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6/19/2014 3:36:16 AM
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At 6/17/2014 11:28:16 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 6/17/2014 5:31:20 PM, Dazz wrote:
At 6/17/2014 5:29:03 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 6/17/2014 5:16:34 PM, Dazz wrote:
At 6/15/2014 8:30:28 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Metaphysical thinking = Philosophy

Metaphysical Thinking?

Non-physical I suppose

Sorry to disturb you, but I think thinking is already non-physical, isn't it?

Sure.

So, what's metaphysical thinking then?
Remove the "I want", remainder is the "peace". ~Al-Ghazali~
"This time will also pass", a dose to cure both; the excitement & the grievance. ~Ayaz~
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6/19/2014 10:54:28 AM
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At 6/19/2014 3:36:16 AM, Dazz wrote:
At 6/17/2014 11:28:16 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 6/17/2014 5:31:20 PM, Dazz wrote:
At 6/17/2014 5:29:03 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 6/17/2014 5:16:34 PM, Dazz wrote:
At 6/15/2014 8:30:28 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Metaphysical thinking = Philosophy

Metaphysical Thinking?

Non-physical I suppose

Sorry to disturb you, but I think thinking is already non-physical, isn't it?

Sure.

So, what's metaphysical thinking then?

Thinking non-physical.
Nolite Timere
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6/19/2014 11:14:50 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/18/2014 8:31:52 PM, sadolite wrote:
"What is Philosophy?" Just doing the right thing.

You might be confused with Ethics.

Philosophy is finding out the truth about truth.
sadolite
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6/19/2014 3:58:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/19/2014 11:14:50 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/18/2014 8:31:52 PM, sadolite wrote:
"What is Philosophy?" Just doing the right thing.

You might be confused with Ethics.

Philosophy is finding out the truth about truth.

Doing the right thing requires no lying
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
Greyparrot
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6/19/2014 11:14:40 PM
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At 6/19/2014 3:58:14 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 6/19/2014 11:14:50 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/18/2014 8:31:52 PM, sadolite wrote:
"What is Philosophy?" Just doing the right thing.

You might be confused with Ethics.

Philosophy is finding out the truth about truth.

Doing the right thing requires no lying

Good mannerism is all about lying.
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6/20/2014 7:58:39 AM
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At 6/19/2014 10:54:28 AM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 6/19/2014 3:36:16 AM, Dazz wrote:
At 6/17/2014 11:28:16 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 6/17/2014 5:31:20 PM, Dazz wrote:
At 6/17/2014 5:29:03 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 6/17/2014 5:16:34 PM, Dazz wrote:
At 6/15/2014 8:30:28 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
Metaphysical thinking = Philosophy

Metaphysical Thinking?

Non-physical I suppose

Sorry to disturb you, but I think thinking is already non-physical, isn't it?

Sure.

So, what's metaphysical thinking then?

Thinking non-physical.

Like?
Remove the "I want", remainder is the "peace". ~Al-Ghazali~
"This time will also pass", a dose to cure both; the excitement & the grievance. ~Ayaz~
sadolite
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6/20/2014 3:52:38 PM
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At 6/19/2014 11:14:40 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/19/2014 3:58:14 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 6/19/2014 11:14:50 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/18/2014 8:31:52 PM, sadolite wrote:
"What is Philosophy?" Just doing the right thing.

You might be confused with Ethics.

Philosophy is finding out the truth about truth.

Doing the right thing requires no lying

Good mannerism is all about lying.

circular logic
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
sdavio
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6/21/2014 12:04:32 AM
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At 6/18/2014 8:31:52 PM, sadolite wrote:
"What is Philosophy?" Just doing the right thing.

Right by what standard?
"Logic is the money of the mind." - Karl Marx
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6/21/2014 12:35:46 PM
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At 6/21/2014 12:04:32 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 6/18/2014 8:31:52 PM, sadolite wrote:
"What is Philosophy?" Just doing the right thing.

Right by what standard?

If you can't figure out right from wrong, It's not my problem. It's the problem of all the people you come in contact with. I don't think I will be in contact with you so it's a safe bet it won't be my problem to.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
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6/21/2014 2:45:05 PM
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At 6/21/2014 12:35:46 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 6/21/2014 12:04:32 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 6/18/2014 8:31:52 PM, sadolite wrote:
"What is Philosophy?" Just doing the right thing.

Right by what standard?

If you can't figure out right from wrong, It's not my problem. It's the problem of all the people you come in contact with. I don't think I will be in contact with you so it's a safe bet it won't be my problem to.

The question was not "what is right?" but "right by what standard?" This implies that the questioner has 'figured out' multiple standards of 'right' from wrong and is asking the question for clarity's sake. Thus, conducting, what I think is philosophy.
I am a philosophy major and have studied the question you are asking. The literal meaning of philosophy is "love of wisdom." Generally, philosophy is about asking, answering, and arguing. It is the opposite of science. Philosophers ask unanswerable questions - ie. what defines right and wrong? - and then they use a critical thinking to reasonably answer the question and defend their answers while critiquing others'. Science eventually answers some of philosophies questions - currently researching separation of mind and body, or, 'soul' for poetics sake - while philosophy is never at a loss of debatable questions for science- is human cloning unethical?
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6/21/2014 3:35:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/14/2014 10:18:35 PM, ChristianPunk wrote:
At 6/13/2014 8:15:14 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
It's not a dumb question, but you really didn't need to make a thread to get an answer. "Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language."

And what do philosophers do exactly? I don't know if they are like regular scientists who use material observations, but do philosophers do that or are they somewhat spiritual in a sense (and by spiritual, I don't mean religious wise).

Philosophers are not (all) spiritual. They are not generally scientific either. A philosopher uses logic and reason, rather than tests, observation, or faith. The philosopher is guided by individual reason, undirected by another. You may think, 'well I do this all the time, so I'm a philosopher?' Well, anyone using true logic and critical thinking in search of truth is philosophizing in a sense, but there is much to learn before true logic and critical thinking is used. For comparison,
I diagnose people all of the time and recommend tylenol for headaches. You are doctoring, but not very well because you are not a doctor, and a doctor knows how to doctor correctly and consistently.
Also, I design phenomenal lego buildings. You are an architect, but in a very strict sense; a lego architect.
I know what's right or wrong, and it's right or wrong because [...]. You have a philosophy of morality, but a philosopher can apply reason to many philosophical questions accurately and consistently, including the questions (s)he is able to ask of his(her) own philosophies.
Philosophers are always in search for truth and clarity even if that truth is inconvenient. Consistency, clarity, an general rationality is more important to the philosopher than the answer itself.

That's my philosophy anyways...
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6/21/2014 4:00:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/21/2014 12:35:46 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 6/21/2014 12:04:32 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 6/18/2014 8:31:52 PM, sadolite wrote:
"What is Philosophy?" Just doing the right thing.

Right by what standard?

If you can't figure out right from wrong, It's not my problem. It's the problem of all the people you come in contact with. I don't think I will be in contact with you so it's a safe bet it won't be my problem to.

I can't figure right from wrong unless a standard is defined. Is the number 26 correct or incorrect? It is neither until a standard is defined; same with human actions.
"Logic is the money of the mind." - Karl Marx
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6/21/2014 5:25:52 PM
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At 6/21/2014 4:00:17 PM, sdavio wrote:
At 6/21/2014 12:35:46 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 6/21/2014 12:04:32 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 6/18/2014 8:31:52 PM, sadolite wrote:
"What is Philosophy?" Just doing the right thing.

Right by what standard?

If you can't figure out right from wrong, It's not my problem. It's the problem of all the people you come in contact with. I don't think I will be in contact with you so it's a safe bet it won't be my problem to.

I can't figure right from wrong unless a standard is defined. Is the number 26 correct or incorrect? It is neither until a standard is defined; same with human actions.

Beautiful comparison, to which I'd like to add:

"is the number 26 correct or incorrect for the numbers 13 and 2?" The number 26 being human action, 13, 2 being the problem, the term 'and' being the fuzziness that philosophy tries to solve.

One's philosophy may say yes (and = times) and another's may say no (and = plus).

Regardless, a philosopher would never say that 26 is incorrect for 13 x 2, that 26 is correct for 13 + 2, or that 27 is ever correct for 13 and 2.
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6/21/2014 5:51:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/21/2014 4:00:17 PM, sdavio wrote:
At 6/21/2014 12:35:46 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 6/21/2014 12:04:32 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 6/18/2014 8:31:52 PM, sadolite wrote:
"What is Philosophy?" Just doing the right thing.

Right by what standard?

If you can't figure out right from wrong, It's not my problem. It's the problem of all the people you come in contact with. I don't think I will be in contact with you so it's a safe bet it won't be my problem to.

I can't figure right from wrong unless a standard is defined. Is the number 26 correct or incorrect? It is neither until a standard is defined; same with human actions.

"I can't figure right from wrong" That I have no doubt about, given the analogy.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%