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Subutai
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6/15/2014 9:06:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'm sure this topic has already been made before, but I'm too lazy to go through DDO's crappy search function to find those threads. Anyway, I'm looking for a good book on introductory philosophy. I understand the basics of philosophy, such as the basics or beliefs of major philosophers and different philosophical question, so I'm not looking for something that is for someone who knows nothing about philosophy. I'm looking for a book that gives an overarching view of philosophy.

Assuming that's not too confusing, I would really appreciate your input. Also, where should I go after that?
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6/15/2014 9:19:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/15/2014 9:06:14 PM, Subutai wrote:
I'm sure this topic has already been made before, but I'm too lazy to go through DDO's crappy search function to find those threads. Anyway, I'm looking for a good book on introductory philosophy. I understand the basics of philosophy, such as the basics or beliefs of major philosophers and different philosophical question, so I'm not looking for something that is for someone who knows nothing about philosophy. I'm looking for a book that gives an overarching view of philosophy.

Assuming that's not too confusing, I would really appreciate your input. Also, where should I go after that?

http://www.amazon.com...
I've heard it's good. Still need to get around to reading it.
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6/15/2014 10:32:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Problems of philosophy by Bertrand Russell is a good one. It's now offered free too.

Any guidebook from the great courses is good, but you already know about them.

I hear "A history of philosophy without any gaps" is good

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6/15/2014 10:36:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/15/2014 9:06:14 PM, Subutai wrote:
I'm sure this topic has already been made before, but I'm too lazy to go through DDO's crappy search function to find those threads. Anyway, I'm looking for a good book on introductory philosophy. I understand the basics of philosophy, such as the basics or beliefs of major philosophers and different philosophical question, so I'm not looking for something that is for someone who knows nothing about philosophy. I'm looking for a book that gives an overarching view of philosophy.

Assuming that's not too confusing, I would really appreciate your input. Also, where should I go after that?

I have been shying away from ancient and industrial philosophers. You might enjoy early 1900's philosophers. Their message is much more relevant, and like always, many were extremely under rated.
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6/16/2014 5:52:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
The Story of Philosophy, by Will Durant is a classic that I'd recommend.
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6/16/2014 6:21:20 AM
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I'm reading A Treatise in Human Nature by David Hume right now. It's not an easy read. I have to keep running to the dictionary, because he uses outdated words like 'Betwixt'.
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6/16/2014 6:36:29 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/16/2014 6:21:20 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm reading A Treatise in Human Nature by David Hume right now. It's not an easy read. I have to keep running to the dictionary, because he uses outdated words like 'Betwixt'.

I'm surprised you aren't reading about the philosophy of Albert Pike. (cough)
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6/16/2014 6:43:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/16/2014 6:36:29 AM, Haroush wrote:
At 6/16/2014 6:21:20 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm reading A Treatise in Human Nature by David Hume right now. It's not an easy read. I have to keep running to the dictionary, because he uses outdated words like 'Betwixt'.

I'm surprised you aren't reading about the philosophy of Albert Pike. (cough)

Maybe something partially inspired by him. I'm reading some of Aleister Crowley's fictional stuff.
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6/16/2014 9:24:36 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
"Philosophy: The Quest for Truth," by Louis Pojman

http://www.amazon.com...

You might also try an anthology like. . .

"Introduction to Philosophy: Classical and Contemporary Readings," by Louis Pojman

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6/16/2014 8:40:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Thank you all for your suggestions. I'm going to look at the two Bertrand Russell books simply because they talk about the history and the problems instead of just one or the other.
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6/16/2014 9:25:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/15/2014 9:19:01 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 6/15/2014 9:06:14 PM, Subutai wrote:
I'm sure this topic has already been made before, but I'm too lazy to go through DDO's crappy search function to find those threads. Anyway, I'm looking for a good book on introductory philosophy. I understand the basics of philosophy, such as the basics or beliefs of major philosophers and different philosophical question, so I'm not looking for something that is for someone who knows nothing about philosophy. I'm looking for a book that gives an overarching view of philosophy.

Assuming that's not too confusing, I would really appreciate your input. Also, where should I go after that?

http://www.amazon.com...
I've heard it's good. Still need to get around to reading it.

You beat me to it, lol. Definitely a classic.

I've heard its good too, and I love Russell's style, but I do believe it's rather biased and just plain wrong when it comes to Aristotle/Aquinas. At least from reading other of Russell's stuff, he's completely clueless when it comes to Aristotelianism.
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6/16/2014 9:29:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/16/2014 6:21:20 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm reading A Treatise in Human Nature by David Hume right now. It's not an easy read. I have to keep running to the dictionary, because he uses outdated words like 'Betwixt'.

I hate David Hume so much. If he's a nominalist, then what in the hell is he doing writing "a treatise on human nature"? Merely describing the thoughts of a plump Scottsman perhaps?
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6/16/2014 9:40:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/16/2014 9:29:29 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 6/16/2014 6:21:20 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm reading A Treatise in Human Nature by David Hume right now. It's not an easy read. I have to keep running to the dictionary, because he uses outdated words like 'Betwixt'.

I hate David Hume so much. If he's a nominalist, then what in the hell is he doing writing "a treatise on human nature"? Merely describing the thoughts of a plump Scottsman perhaps?

I don't know anything about his philosophy past the first chapter. I assumed his work was essential reading to the aspiring philosopher.
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6/16/2014 9:42:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/16/2014 9:40:02 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/16/2014 9:29:29 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 6/16/2014 6:21:20 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm reading A Treatise in Human Nature by David Hume right now. It's not an easy read. I have to keep running to the dictionary, because he uses outdated words like 'Betwixt'.

I hate David Hume so much. If he's a nominalist, then what in the hell is he doing writing "a treatise on human nature"? Merely describing the thoughts of a plump Scottsman perhaps?

I don't know anything about his philosophy past the first chapter. I assumed his work was essential reading to the aspiring philosopher.

True. I just think that if he doesn't believe in essences of forms, then it sounds kindof funny to say "A Treatise on Human Nature" because human nature = an essence.

Anyways, it's really good that you're reading first hand philosophy. I wish I had the time to do that myself...
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6/17/2014 12:37:48 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/16/2014 9:40:02 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/16/2014 9:29:29 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 6/16/2014 6:21:20 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm reading A Treatise in Human Nature by David Hume right now. It's not an easy read. I have to keep running to the dictionary, because he uses outdated words like 'Betwixt'.

I hate David Hume so much. If he's a nominalist, then what in the hell is he doing writing "a treatise on human nature"? Merely describing the thoughts of a plump Scottsman perhaps?

I don't know anything about his philosophy past the first chapter. I assumed his work was essential reading to the aspiring philosopher.

It is. Though I would recommend An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding over the Treatise. The Enquiry was more of a revision of the first. It's also easier to read and focuses on the most important aspects of his philosophy. The Treatise had little impact in the press--he was aiming for an uproar--so he dispensed with allot of the old material and emphasized the important points. It's also more influential.

I haven't read the Treatise, just to add.
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6/17/2014 12:44:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/17/2014 12:37:48 AM, phantom wrote:
At 6/16/2014 9:40:02 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/16/2014 9:29:29 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 6/16/2014 6:21:20 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm reading A Treatise in Human Nature by David Hume right now. It's not an easy read. I have to keep running to the dictionary, because he uses outdated words like 'Betwixt'.

I hate David Hume so much. If he's a nominalist, then what in the hell is he doing writing "a treatise on human nature"? Merely describing the thoughts of a plump Scottsman perhaps?

I don't know anything about his philosophy past the first chapter. I assumed his work was essential reading to the aspiring philosopher.

It is. Though I would recommend An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding over the Treatise. The Enquiry was more of a revision of the first. It's also easier to read and focuses on the most important aspects of his philosophy. The Treatise had little impact in the press--he was aiming for an uproar--so he dispensed with allot of the old material and emphasized the important points. It's also more influential.

I haven't read the Treatise, just to add.

I wish you told me that before I bought this one
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6/17/2014 12:48:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/17/2014 12:44:14 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/17/2014 12:37:48 AM, phantom wrote:
At 6/16/2014 9:40:02 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/16/2014 9:29:29 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 6/16/2014 6:21:20 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm reading A Treatise in Human Nature by David Hume right now. It's not an easy read. I have to keep running to the dictionary, because he uses outdated words like 'Betwixt'.

I hate David Hume so much. If he's a nominalist, then what in the hell is he doing writing "a treatise on human nature"? Merely describing the thoughts of a plump Scottsman perhaps?

I don't know anything about his philosophy past the first chapter. I assumed his work was essential reading to the aspiring philosopher.

It is. Though I would recommend An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding over the Treatise. The Enquiry was more of a revision of the first. It's also easier to read and focuses on the most important aspects of his philosophy. The Treatise had little impact in the press--he was aiming for an uproar--so he dispensed with allot of the old material and emphasized the important points. It's also more influential.

I haven't read the Treatise, just to add.

I wish you told me that before I bought this one

I would have if you had asked. Anyway, no reason to spend money on old philosophy books. http://www.earlymoderntexts.com...
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6/17/2014 6:26:55 AM
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Download a pdf copy of Aristotles organons. He was the first human to think, and he wrote the best of those thoughts down, actually high level text material you study for uni.
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7/2/2014 10:09:15 AM
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At 6/17/2014 12:44:14 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/17/2014 12:37:48 AM, phantom wrote:
At 6/16/2014 9:40:02 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/16/2014 9:29:29 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 6/16/2014 6:21:20 AM, Wylted wrote:
I'm reading A Treatise in Human Nature by David Hume right now. It's not an easy read. I have to keep running to the dictionary, because he uses outdated words like 'Betwixt'.

I hate David Hume so much. If he's a nominalist, then what in the hell is he doing writing "a treatise on human nature"? Merely describing the thoughts of a plump Scottsman perhaps?

I don't know anything about his philosophy past the first chapter. I assumed his work was essential reading to the aspiring philosopher.

It is. Though I would recommend An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding over the Treatise. The Enquiry was more of a revision of the first. It's also easier to read and focuses on the most important aspects of his philosophy. The Treatise had little impact in the press--he was aiming for an uproar--so he dispensed with allot of the old material and emphasized the important points. It's also more influential.

I haven't read the Treatise, just to add.

I wish you told me that before I bought this one

Stay proud, Hume in his letter to Rosseau asserts that the Inquiry was simply a summary, he always called the Treatise his magnum opus. The Inquiry has the same ideas, but in a more complex way. The Treatise is better.
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