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9/7/2014 8:53:16 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I think that smart people with great understanding of a subject are able to able to dumb down complex ideas and simplify them so it makes sense to all.

I find often philosophy is the exact opposite. Often, philosophers use verbose language and abstract complex arguments about pointless thing that need not be debated about. I believe that philosophy is just a pointless exercise, so mediocre minds can feel good about themselves and feel smart.
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9/7/2014 9:19:41 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 8:53:16 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
I think that smart people with great understanding of a subject are able to able to dumb down complex ideas and simplify them so it makes sense to all.

I find often philosophy is the exact opposite. Often, philosophers use verbose language and abstract complex arguments about pointless thing that need not be debated about. I believe that philosophy is just a pointless exercise, so mediocre minds can feel good about themselves and feel smart.

This is an effect of democracy. We all have an equal vote; the opinion of a person who has thought through their position thoroughly is considered no more valuable than someone who just guesses in the moment. So opinions and ideas are considered nothing; only 'work' is valuable. This seems to be the most widespread ideology in a democratic country.
"Logic is the money of the mind." - Karl Marx
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9/7/2014 9:22:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 8:53:16 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
I think that smart people with great understanding of a subject are able to able to dumb down complex ideas and simplify them so it makes sense to all.

I find often philosophy is the exact opposite. Often, philosophers use verbose language and abstract complex arguments about pointless thing that need not be debated about. I believe that philosophy is just a pointless exercise, so mediocre minds can feel good about themselves and feel smart.

I am inclined to agree. The first thing philosophical people say is "it's complex and not that easy" It is people's unwillingness to make unpopular decisions and take responsibility that makes everything "Complicated"
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9/7/2014 9:27:12 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 9:22:52 AM, sadolite wrote:
At 9/7/2014 8:53:16 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
I think that smart people with great understanding of a subject are able to able to dumb down complex ideas and simplify them so it makes sense to all.

I find often philosophy is the exact opposite. Often, philosophers use verbose language and abstract complex arguments about pointless thing that need not be debated about. I believe that philosophy is just a pointless exercise, so mediocre minds can feel good about themselves and feel smart.

I am inclined to agree. The first thing philosophical people say is "it's complex and not that easy" It is people's unwillingness to make unpopular decisions and take responsibility that makes everything "Complicated"

Yeah. "it is complex and you cannot understand it" is what a lot of risk analysts said about mortgages/loans prior to the 2008 financial crisis. Turns out, all of their abstract math was useless/pointless and society paid because of it.
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9/7/2014 9:29:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 9:22:52 AM, sadolite wrote:
At 9/7/2014 8:53:16 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
I think that smart people with great understanding of a subject are able to able to dumb down complex ideas and simplify them so it makes sense to all.

I find often philosophy is the exact opposite. Often, philosophers use verbose language and abstract complex arguments about pointless thing that need not be debated about. I believe that philosophy is just a pointless exercise, so mediocre minds can feel good about themselves and feel smart.

I am inclined to agree. The first thing philosophical people say is "it's complex and not that easy" It is people's unwillingness to make unpopular decisions and take responsibility that makes everything "Complicated"

Philosophy being irrelevant is the status quo at this point. "Shut up and work" is the dominant paradigm.
"Logic is the money of the mind." - Karl Marx
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9/7/2014 9:35:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 9:29:24 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:22:52 AM, sadolite wrote:
At 9/7/2014 8:53:16 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
I think that smart people with great understanding of a subject are able to able to dumb down complex ideas and simplify them so it makes sense to all.

I find often philosophy is the exact opposite. Often, philosophers use verbose language and abstract complex arguments about pointless thing that need not be debated about. I believe that philosophy is just a pointless exercise, so mediocre minds can feel good about themselves and feel smart.

I am inclined to agree. The first thing philosophical people say is "it's complex and not that easy" It is people's unwillingness to make unpopular decisions and take responsibility that makes everything "Complicated"

Philosophy being irrelevant is the status quo at this point. "Shut up and work" is the dominant paradigm.

I think that philosophy does not add value to society. I mean, do philosophy if it makes a feel good. But I think you are kidding yourself if you think philosophy is useful.

I think people are better off studying something of value than doing philosophy. I can't think of how philosophers adds value to society. I am more thinking of people who study philosophy.
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9/7/2014 9:36:04 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 9:19:41 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 9/7/2014 8:53:16 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
I think that smart people with great understanding of a subject are able to able to dumb down complex ideas and simplify them so it makes sense to all.

I find often philosophy is the exact opposite. Often, philosophers use verbose language and abstract complex arguments about pointless thing that need not be debated about. I believe that philosophy is just a pointless exercise, so mediocre minds can feel good about themselves and feel smart.

This is an effect of democracy. We all have an equal vote; the opinion of a person who has thought through their position thoroughly is considered no more valuable than someone who just guesses in the moment. So opinions and ideas are considered nothing; only 'work' is valuable. This seems to be the most widespread ideology in a democratic country.

I think usefull ideas are considered valueble. But, I don't think philosophy generates many useful ideas.
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9/7/2014 9:39:30 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 9:35:17 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:29:24 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:22:52 AM, sadolite wrote:
At 9/7/2014 8:53:16 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
I think that smart people with great understanding of a subject are able to able to dumb down complex ideas and simplify them so it makes sense to all.

I find often philosophy is the exact opposite. Often, philosophers use verbose language and abstract complex arguments about pointless thing that need not be debated about. I believe that philosophy is just a pointless exercise, so mediocre minds can feel good about themselves and feel smart.

I am inclined to agree. The first thing philosophical people say is "it's complex and not that easy" It is people's unwillingness to make unpopular decisions and take responsibility that makes everything "Complicated"

Philosophy being irrelevant is the status quo at this point. "Shut up and work" is the dominant paradigm.

I think that philosophy does not add value to society. I mean, do philosophy if it makes a feel good. But I think you are kidding yourself if you think philosophy is useful.

I think people are better off studying something of value than doing philosophy. I can't think of how philosophers adds value to society. I am more thinking of people who study philosophy.

Imagine if instead of science being decided by what theory works, we simply got everyone to fill in a form of what they 'think' the solution is. Some people might vote that E=mc6 just because they like the sound of that better, and so on. Then science would be a useless thing to study, because even if you figure out the right answer, your opinion still comes down to the same input as the guy who's guessing. That is where morality and philosophy are at today.
"Logic is the money of the mind." - Karl Marx
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9/7/2014 9:40:41 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 9:36:04 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:19:41 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 9/7/2014 8:53:16 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
I think that smart people with great understanding of a subject are able to able to dumb down complex ideas and simplify them so it makes sense to all.

I find often philosophy is the exact opposite. Often, philosophers use verbose language and abstract complex arguments about pointless thing that need not be debated about. I believe that philosophy is just a pointless exercise, so mediocre minds can feel good about themselves and feel smart.

This is an effect of democracy. We all have an equal vote; the opinion of a person who has thought through their position thoroughly is considered no more valuable than someone who just guesses in the moment. So opinions and ideas are considered nothing; only 'work' is valuable. This seems to be the most widespread ideology in a democratic country.

I think usefull ideas are considered valueble. But, I don't think philosophy generates many useful ideas.

If by philosophy you just mean philosophy courses at Uni then maybe you're right.
"Logic is the money of the mind." - Karl Marx
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9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
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9/7/2014 12:47:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 9:39:30 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:35:17 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:29:24 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:22:52 AM, sadolite wrote:
At 9/7/2014 8:53:16 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
I think that smart people with great understanding of a subject are able to able to dumb down complex ideas and simplify them so it makes sense to all.

I find often philosophy is the exact opposite. Often, philosophers use verbose language and abstract complex arguments about pointless thing that need not be debated about. I believe that philosophy is just a pointless exercise, so mediocre minds can feel good about themselves and feel smart.

I am inclined to agree. The first thing philosophical people say is "it's complex and not that easy" It is people's unwillingness to make unpopular decisions and take responsibility that makes everything "Complicated"

Philosophy being irrelevant is the status quo at this point. "Shut up and work" is the dominant paradigm.

I think that philosophy does not add value to society. I mean, do philosophy if it makes a feel good. But I think you are kidding yourself if you think philosophy is useful.

I think people are better off studying something of value than doing philosophy. I can't think of how philosophers adds value to society. I am more thinking of people who study philosophy.

Imagine if instead of science being decided by what theory works, we simply got everyone to fill in a form of what they 'think' the solution is. Some people might vote that E=mc6 just because they like the sound of that better, and so on. Then science would be a useless thing to study, because even if you figure out the right answer, your opinion still comes down to the same input as the guy who's guessing. That is where morality and philosophy are at today.

I'd say that is where philosophy is today. And, that is where philosophy in general has always been. There just was not enough science to prove the old philosophers wrong so people regarded their BS as something intelligent.
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9/7/2014 12:50:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 9:40:41 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:36:04 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:19:41 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 9/7/2014 8:53:16 AM, twocupcakes wrote:
I think that smart people with great understanding of a subject are able to able to dumb down complex ideas and simplify them so it makes sense to all.

I find often philosophy is the exact opposite. Often, philosophers use verbose language and abstract complex arguments about pointless thing that need not be debated about. I believe that philosophy is just a pointless exercise, so mediocre minds can feel good about themselves and feel smart.

This is an effect of democracy. We all have an equal vote; the opinion of a person who has thought through their position thoroughly is considered no more valuable than someone who just guesses in the moment. So opinions and ideas are considered nothing; only 'work' is valuable. This seems to be the most widespread ideology in a democratic country.

I think usefull ideas are considered valueble. But, I don't think philosophy generates many useful ideas.

If by philosophy you just mean philosophy courses at Uni then maybe you're right.

Yeah, I am in general talking about university philosophy courses and things along those lines. Like people who get into Kant and Descartes and those kind of guys.

I mean, I am sure you could say anyone with ideas is a Philosopher like Warren Buffett or Barrack Obama. But, I mainly talking about university philosophy courses and things like that.
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9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.
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9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.
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9/7/2014 12:56:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.

In fact, if I can conceive of any point to all this at all, it's that.
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9/7/2014 12:59:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.

Yeah, but people can find "soul" in a plethora of activities. People find soul in whatever they are passionate about. People can find soul in poetry, arts, music, sports, building things ect. It probably is better if people find "soul" in something that is also useful. But, people do not really choose their passions.
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9/7/2014 1:01:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 12:59:09 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.

Yeah, but people can find "soul" in a plethora of activities. People find soul in whatever they are passionate about. People can find soul in poetry, arts, music, sports, building things ect. It probably is better if people find "soul" in something that is also useful. But, people do not really choose their passions.

You seem to have agreed your way into your own silliness, friend.
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9/7/2014 1:02:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 1:01:34 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:59:09 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.

Yeah, but people can find "soul" in a plethora of activities. People find soul in whatever they are passionate about. People can find soul in poetry, arts, music, sports, building things ect. It probably is better if people find "soul" in something that is also useful. But, people do not really choose their passions.

You seem to have agreed your way into your own silliness, friend.

OH!! Was that what the thread title was about? Damn, good troll dude!
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9/7/2014 1:05:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 1:02:07 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:01:34 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:59:09 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.

Yeah, but people can find "soul" in a plethora of activities. People find soul in whatever they are passionate about. People can find soul in poetry, arts, music, sports, building things ect. It probably is better if people find "soul" in something that is also useful. But, people do not really choose their passions.

You seem to have agreed your way into your own silliness, friend.

OH!! Was that what the thread title was about? Damn, good troll dude!

I am not following.

I know some people like doing philosophy. But, I was saying that people should not fool themselves into thinking philosophy is intelligent and producing useful ideas.
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9/7/2014 1:05:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 1:05:04 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:02:07 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:01:34 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:59:09 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.

Yeah, but people can find "soul" in a plethora of activities. People find soul in whatever they are passionate about. People can find soul in poetry, arts, music, sports, building things ect. It probably is better if people find "soul" in something that is also useful. But, people do not really choose their passions.

You seem to have agreed your way into your own silliness, friend.

OH!! Was that what the thread title was about? Damn, good troll dude!

I am not following.

I know some people like doing philosophy. But, I was saying that people should not fool themselves into thinking philosophy is intelligent and producing useful ideas.

I disagree and also you are wrong.
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9/7/2014 1:07:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 1:05:44 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:05:04 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:02:07 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:01:34 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:59:09 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.

Yeah, but people can find "soul" in a plethora of activities. People find soul in whatever they are passionate about. People can find soul in poetry, arts, music, sports, building things ect. It probably is better if people find "soul" in something that is also useful. But, people do not really choose their passions.

You seem to have agreed your way into your own silliness, friend.

OH!! Was that what the thread title was about? Damn, good troll dude!

I am not following.

I know some people like doing philosophy. But, I was saying that people should not fool themselves into thinking philosophy is intelligent and producing useful ideas.

I disagree and also you are wrong.

What do you disagree with and why?
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9/7/2014 1:09:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 1:07:37 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:05:44 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:05:04 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:02:07 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:01:34 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:59:09 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.

Yeah, but people can find "soul" in a plethora of activities. People find soul in whatever they are passionate about. People can find soul in poetry, arts, music, sports, building things ect. It probably is better if people find "soul" in something that is also useful. But, people do not really choose their passions.

You seem to have agreed your way into your own silliness, friend.

OH!! Was that what the thread title was about? Damn, good troll dude!

I am not following.

I know some people like doing philosophy. But, I was saying that people should not fool themselves into thinking philosophy is intelligent and producing useful ideas.

I disagree and also you are wrong.

What do you disagree with and why?

I am really not up to this right now dude, but to keep it short: a person's philosophy is their soul--it's politics, psychology, and science all rolled into one--and I think it important to know each other.
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9/7/2014 1:11:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 1:09:30 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:07:37 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:05:44 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:05:04 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:02:07 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:01:34 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:59:09 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.

Yeah, but people can find "soul" in a plethora of activities. People find soul in whatever they are passionate about. People can find soul in poetry, arts, music, sports, building things ect. It probably is better if people find "soul" in something that is also useful. But, people do not really choose their passions.

You seem to have agreed your way into your own silliness, friend.

OH!! Was that what the thread title was about? Damn, good troll dude!

I am not following.

I know some people like doing philosophy. But, I was saying that people should not fool themselves into thinking philosophy is intelligent and producing useful ideas.

I disagree and also you are wrong.

What do you disagree with and why?

I am really not up to this right now dude, but to keep it short: a person's philosophy is their soul--it's politics, psychology, and science all rolled into one--and I think it important to know each other.

Ohh okay. Yeah, I said that I know technically any belief can be a philosophy. I was just saying that in general university philosophy and things like Kant, Descartes ect are useless/stupid and make you dumber.
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9/7/2014 1:14:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 1:11:17 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:09:30 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:07:37 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:05:44 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:05:04 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:02:07 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:01:34 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:59:09 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
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Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.

Yeah, but people can find "soul" in a plethora of activities. People find soul in whatever they are passionate about. People can find soul in poetry, arts, music, sports, building things ect. It probably is better if people find "soul" in something that is also useful. But, people do not really choose their passions.

You seem to have agreed your way into your own silliness, friend.

OH!! Was that what the thread title was about? Damn, good troll dude!

I am not following.

I know some people like doing philosophy. But, I was saying that people should not fool themselves into thinking philosophy is intelligent and producing useful ideas.

I disagree and also you are wrong.

What do you disagree with and why?

I am really not up to this right now dude, but to keep it short: a person's philosophy is their soul--it's politics, psychology, and science all rolled into one--and I think it important to know each other.

Ohh okay. Yeah, I said that I know technically any belief can be a philosophy. I was just saying that in general university philosophy and things like Kant, Descartes ect are useless/stupid and make you dumber.

And I disagree. Certain philosophers are marvellously insightful as to the world around you--that is, as to the human condition. Let's keep the STEM/Philosophy debate off DDO dude, it's one of the pettiest there is.
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9/7/2014 2:10:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 1:14:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:11:17 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:09:30 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:07:37 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:05:44 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:05:04 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:02:07 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:01:34 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:59:09 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.

Yeah, but people can find "soul" in a plethora of activities. People find soul in whatever they are passionate about. People can find soul in poetry, arts, music, sports, building things ect. It probably is better if people find "soul" in something that is also useful. But, people do not really choose their passions.

You seem to have agreed your way into your own silliness, friend.

OH!! Was that what the thread title was about? Damn, good troll dude!

I am not following.

I know some people like doing philosophy. But, I was saying that people should not fool themselves into thinking philosophy is intelligent and producing useful ideas.

I disagree and also you are wrong.

What do you disagree with and why?

I am really not up to this right now dude, but to keep it short: a person's philosophy is their soul--it's politics, psychology, and science all rolled into one--and I think it important to know each other.

Ohh okay. Yeah, I said that I know technically any belief can be a philosophy. I was just saying that in general university philosophy and things like Kant, Descartes ect are useless/stupid and make you dumber.

And I disagree. Certain philosophers are marvellously insightful as to the world around you--that is, as to the human condition. Let's keep the STEM/Philosophy debate off DDO dude, it's one of the pettiest there is.

OKay, well philosophers do not produce anything of value. I don't think they produce intelligent thought, just abstract nonsense and pointless mind exercises.
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9/7/2014 2:13:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 2:10:33 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:14:09 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:11:17 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:09:30 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:07:37 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:05:44 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:05:04 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:02:07 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 1:01:34 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:59:09 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:55:41 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/7/2014 12:51:42 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 9/7/2014 9:54:16 AM, AnDoctuir wrote:
I both agree and disagree. While I think there is quite a lot of bullsh*t (the theory of forms, for example), I regard philosophy first and foremost as soul.
]
Yeah, I have no issue with people who do philosophy for fun or other reasons. Like how people read poetry or paint. But, I don't think it is useful in today's society.

I personally like the idea of society becoming more soulful.

Yeah, but people can find "soul" in a plethora of activities. People find soul in whatever they are passionate about. People can find soul in poetry, arts, music, sports, building things ect. It probably is better if people find "soul" in something that is also useful. But, people do not really choose their passions.

You seem to have agreed your way into your own silliness, friend.

OH!! Was that what the thread title was about? Damn, good troll dude!

I am not following.

I know some people like doing philosophy. But, I was saying that people should not fool themselves into thinking philosophy is intelligent and producing useful ideas.

I disagree and also you are wrong.

What do you disagree with and why?

I am really not up to this right now dude, but to keep it short: a person's philosophy is their soul--it's politics, psychology, and science all rolled into one--and I think it important to know each other.

Ohh okay. Yeah, I said that I know technically any belief can be a philosophy. I was just saying that in general university philosophy and things like Kant, Descartes ect are useless/stupid and make you dumber.

And I disagree. Certain philosophers are marvellously insightful as to the world around you--that is, as to the human condition. Let's keep the STEM/Philosophy debate off DDO dude, it's one of the pettiest there is.

OKay, well philosophers do not produce anything of value. I don't think they produce intelligent thought, just abstract nonsense and pointless mind exercises.

Shush now, you're being ridiculous.
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9/7/2014 2:19:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago

Shush now, you're being ridiculous.

Well, if you disagree you could start by giving an example of something of value that philosophy has produced?

The bottom line is that all these abstract philosophy arguments may make people feel smart, but it is a bunch of useless stupid thought.
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9/7/2014 2:20:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/7/2014 2:19:09 PM, twocupcakes wrote:

Shush now, you're being ridiculous.

Well, if you disagree you could start by giving an example of something of value that philosophy has produced?

The bottom line is that all these abstract philosophy arguments may make people feel smart, but it is a bunch of useless stupid thought.

And this thread is much better I suppose?--to save the world from that monstrous Philosophy!