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The Ship of Theseus.

n7
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10/6/2014 11:27:22 PM
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How would you answer the ship of Theseus problem? It seems to point out two contradictory intuitions we have.
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Ajabi
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10/7/2014 12:56:58 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/6/2014 11:27:22 PM, n7 wrote:
How would you answer the ship of Theseus problem? It seems to point out two contradictory intuitions we have.



Heraclitus much?
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10/7/2014 2:28:13 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
It's a language problem, nothing more. We define objects as unified entities, not as the sum of their parts. Theseus's ship is not the sum of the same parts, but they're in the same configuration and perform the same function. It's that configuration and function that we call "Theseus's ship".
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10/7/2014 10:50:42 AM
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At 10/6/2014 11:27:22 PM, n7 wrote:
How would you answer the ship of Theseus problem? It seems to point out two contradictory intuitions we have.



We don't need the ship of Theseus to illustrate this conundrum.... We have ourselves. Our cells are constantly dying and being replaced by new cells; this goes for every tissue in our bodies, including the tissues that make up our brains.
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10/7/2014 11:35:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/7/2014 2:28:13 AM, apb4y wrote:
It's a language problem, nothing more. We define objects as unified entities, not as the sum of their parts. Theseus's ship is not the sum of the same parts, but they're in the same configuration and perform the same function. It's that configuration and function that we call "Theseus's ship".

That wouldn't really be a problem with definitions, it would be a problem with one of our intuitions. That an object goes where its parts go.
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10/7/2014 11:37:07 AM
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At 10/7/2014 12:56:58 AM, Ajabi wrote:
At 10/6/2014 11:27:22 PM, n7 wrote:
How would you answer the ship of Theseus problem? It seems to point out two contradictory intuitions we have.



Heraclitus much?

Not sure, because it seems a river would allow for new water all the time. We don't think of a river as a certain formulation of original water, just water in general.
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