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An analytic proof of karma and reincarnation

mashi
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10/8/2014 12:41:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Karma is causality when there is doer-ship and this mixes the gunaha, the aspects, of the elements, namely AkAshaha, vAyu, Agni, Jalam, Pruthvi and gives them different natural characteristics. Interactions between the elements must be driven by some force. This force must have been accumulated like the concept of feedback in cybernetics. What is accumulated is karma.
The body is made of up these elements as well. Your thoughts and feelings, too, are made up of these, they just have a different classification, in English we call them subtle. Between the subtle and the gross there is a relationship, and supervenient relationship. Your organs of action need sensory input because they are just output, metaphorically speaking, because for karma to be real, there must always be doer-ship, and these sensory stimuli must cause an action or actions. Well, when the organs of action die, what is left? The sense organs of action. The organs of action merge or decompose with the earth because their action, i.E karma has been exhausted, but sensory organs live on until they exhaust their own karma. (They with out a doubt will control different organs of action or gross elements that are arranged
mashi
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10/8/2014 12:43:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/8/2014 12:41:32 PM, mashi wrote:
Karma is causality when there is doer-ship and this mixes the gunaha, the aspects, of the elements, namely AkAshaha, vAyu, Agni, Jalam, Pruthvi and gives them different natural characteristics. Interactions between the elements must be driven by some force. This force must have been accumulated like the concept of feedback in cybernetics. What is accumulated is karma.
The body is made of up these elements as well. Your thoughts and feelings, too, are made up of these, they just have a different classification, in English we call them subtle. Between the subtle and the gross there is a relationship, and supervenient relationship. Your organs of action need sensory input because they are just output, metaphorically speaking, because for karma to be real, there must always be doer-ship, and these sensory stimuli must cause an action or actions. Well, when the organs of action die, what is left? The sense organs of action. The organs of action merge or decompose with the earth because their action, i.E karma has been exhausted, but sensory organs live on until they exhaust their own karma. (They with out a doubt will control different organs of action or gross elements that are arranged

in a way where they are supervenient with the subtle elements.
mightbenihilism
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10/8/2014 4:15:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/8/2014 12:41:32 PM, mashi wrote:
Karma is causality

I think a more substantial proof of the classical Hindu/Buddhist idea of karma would be to cite the work of Ian Stevenson in documenting children with memories of verifiable past lives.
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10/8/2014 4:30:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/8/2014 4:15:12 PM, mightbenihilism wrote:
At 10/8/2014 12:41:32 PM, mashi wrote:
Karma is causality


I think a more substantial proof of the classical Hindu/Buddhist idea of karma would be to cite the work of Ian Stevenson in documenting children with memories of verifiable past lives.

I have difficulty actually believing it.
mightbenihilism
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10/8/2014 4:37:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/8/2014 4:30:49 PM, mashi wrote:
At 10/8/2014 4:15:12 PM, mightbenihilism wrote:
At 10/8/2014 12:41:32 PM, mashi wrote:
Karma is causality

I have difficulty actually believing it.

I don't think it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, but I can see how one might be persuaded of it based on certain pieces of evidence.

If it can be demonstrated that consciousness has powers beyond what can be explained by a materialist model, then we *may* have a basis for thinking it persists after physical death.

If it can be shown that small children remember and identify themselves with other people who have died prior to that child's birth, and if there is no discernible way for the child to have otherwise gained information of the other party, then such *may* be a basis for thinking that consciousness, in some circumstances, re-appears in another, human form.

However, if either of the above is incorrect, I do not know what "evidence" there would be. One could accept the testimony of certain rshis on the matter, and it seems Vedanta and many other Dharmic systems are based, to a certain extent, on the claims of rshis anyway.
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10/12/2014 2:45:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
karma is the sinner's way of redemption. the path to true enlightenment begins when one transcends the very being of their soul, and touches the world with their sound and wave of flag.
thinker, philosopher, renasance-man.