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Philocat
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11/26/2014 5:21:44 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
What is morality? It's a question that numerous philosophers have sought to understand, for all ethical arguments revert back to this question and we should endeavour to be able to answer it.
Questions that are encompassed by this include:
Is morality objective?
What does it mean to say something is 'good'?
Does morality have a source? If so, what source?
Unitomic
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11/26/2014 3:45:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
If there is God, then yes one could Say Morality is objective.

If there is no God, then no, Morality is not objective. If it were, then what is it? Few cultures believe the exact same morality. Even fewer when all of history is included. Even in our own towns there is great difference. It only gets worse when history is included. 40 years ago they had massive differences in culture from today, even in our own towns. And people 40 years from now will have greatly different views from us (can we say their morality is wrong and ours right). Then there is our own changes in morality. No one over 20 today can say they believe exactly the same stuff today that they did 10 years ago, or that they believe the same stuff today that they will when their 40. We ourselves don't even maintain an objective morality.

Morality comes from the general consensus of the population.

As I have a life (consisting of other forums), I am unlikely to have time to reply to this today again, so I'll see yall later.

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donald.keller
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11/26/2014 4:43:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 5:21:44 AM, Philocat wrote:
What is morality? It's a question that numerous philosophers have sought to understand, for all ethical arguments revert back to this question and we should endeavour to be able to answer it.
Questions that are encompassed by this include:
Is morality objective?

No. Morality is usually Relative.

What does it mean to say something is 'good'?

That it is, as you see it, good. I see abortion has bad, while some see it as good.

Does morality have a source? If so, what source?

God, if you believe in him. If you don't believe in God, than it's source-less... Merely an opinion you hold on to.
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sadolite
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11/26/2014 5:46:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/26/2014 5:21:44 AM, Philocat wrote:
What is morality? It's a question that numerous philosophers have sought to understand, for all ethical arguments revert back to this question and we should endeavour to be able to answer it.
Questions that are encompassed by this include:
Is morality objective?
What does it mean to say something is 'good'?
Does morality have a source? If so, what source?

"What is morality" Last I checked being pro abortion ("Pro Choice" for the PC police) and pro gay marriage is the definition of morality and being moral.
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CorieMike
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3/18/2015 10:49:56 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/26/2014 5:21:44 AM, Philocat wrote:
What is morality? It's a question that numerous philosophers have sought to understand, for all ethical arguments revert back to this question and we should endeavour to be able to answer it.
Questions that are encompassed by this include:
Is morality objective?

My personal preference is ethical nihilism (which I don't see to be self contradictory whatsoever). Full of misconceptions which have been addressed. http://forums.philosophyforums.com...

To be objective, we need to scrutinize the premises below:
1. If God does not exist, objective moral values and duties do not exist.
2. Objective moral values and duties do exist.
3. Therefore, God exists.

p2. Appeals to intuition aren't very convincing or universally held. Nor am I sure they can always be reliable. http://www.utilitarian.net..., http://departments.bloomu.edu..., and http://rationallyspeaking.blogspot.com....

WLC and others also argue that arguments against this will be less obvious than premises for ethical scepticism ( I have yet to found good reason to believe this truth). It may be deemed rational in the absence of a defeater i.e. moral scepticism. It also doesnt address the is-ought problem. Normative claims also don't imply ethical claims, only vice versa. Eg. one can have a normative view of what it means to know or to be a knower, but there seems to be absolutely no ethical commitment there whatsoever. Also, it cannot be argued that something is good without attaching a goal to it.

What does it mean to say something is 'good'?

I (subjectively) understand good to be attached to one's preference. Self flourishing (mainly) which may entail Group human flourishing to achieve this. However, group flourishing may have adverse effects like the Prisoner's dilemma.

Does morality have a source? If so, what source?

p1. Moral Realism could be based on nature (like a survival mechanism or genetic adaptation to relate to other conscious entities) if it had a source, which I dont think it does.
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3/21/2015 1:17:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
In my perception, happiness, contentment, morality, etc., is within us. When people give credit and/or responsibility for these qualities to an outside source, they give up both their individual choices AND responsibility. We are the keeper of our own conscience.
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3/30/2015 4:43:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/26/2014 5:21:44 AM, Philocat wrote:
What is morality? It's a question that numerous philosophers have sought to understand, for all ethical arguments revert back to this question and we should endeavour to be able to answer it.
Questions that are encompassed by this include:
Is morality objective?

I think the term "objective" is slightly problematic, but if by "objective" you mean:

1. Morality expresses propositions - say,The statement "Murder is bad" is a proposition - and
2. Some moral propositions are true

I would have to say that yes, morality is objective, primarily because I've read about Gewirth's argument for the Principle of Generic Consistency (PGC), and it is based on a claim that an entity considering itself an agent must make: "I do X for purpose E".

What does it mean to say something is 'good'?

Based on the PGC, X is good if it upholds or protects someone's rights. X is bad if it violates their rights.

Does morality have a source? If so, what source?

Presumably, the source of morality would be either action itself or else us as agents.