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3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM
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I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.
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3/15/2015 8:26:00 PM
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At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

What he said. ----^
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3/15/2015 8:47:30 PM
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At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

start with the basics
http://www.philosophybasics.com...
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3/15/2015 9:17:24 PM
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Philosophy Made Simple by Richard Popkin and Avrum Stroll

It's where I started. Back then, it was the most intriguing thing I'd ever read. From there, you'll find what and who interests you the most.
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3/15/2015 9:18:36 PM
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At 3/15/2015 9:17:24 PM, phantom wrote:
Philosophy Made Simple by Richard Popkin and Avrum Stroll

It's where I started. Back then, it was the most intriguing thing I'd ever read. From there, you'll find what and who interests you the most.

Much appreciated.
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3/15/2015 9:20:44 PM
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At 3/15/2015 9:18:36 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 3/15/2015 9:17:24 PM, phantom wrote:
Philosophy Made Simple by Richard Popkin and Avrum Stroll

It's where I started. Back then, it was the most intriguing thing I'd ever read. From there, you'll find what and who interests you the most.

Much appreciated.

No problem.
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3/15/2015 9:28:30 PM
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At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

Plato should be easily digestible and most of philosophy consists of footnotes to his works, so I would start there. Just go through the dialogues.
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3/16/2015 12:13:16 AM
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At 3/15/2015 9:28:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

Plato should be easily digestible and most of philosophy consists of footnotes to his works

Whitehead was a hack

, so I would start there. Just go through the dialogues.

I've found that his dialogues become more convoluted the more I read them
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3/16/2015 12:16:29 AM
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At 3/16/2015 12:13:16 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/15/2015 9:28:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

Plato should be easily digestible and most of philosophy consists of footnotes to his works

Whitehead was a hack

, so I would start there. Just go through the dialogues.

I've found that his dialogues become more convoluted the more I read them

Ahmagerd!
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"Over her head the stars, the thoughts of God in the heavens,
Shone on the eyes of man, who had ceased to marvel and worship"
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3/16/2015 12:19:36 AM
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At 3/16/2015 12:16:29 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:13:16 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/15/2015 9:28:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

Plato should be easily digestible and most of philosophy consists of footnotes to his works

Whitehead was a hack

, so I would start there. Just go through the dialogues.

I've found that his dialogues become more convoluted the more I read them

Ahmagerd!

There's so much there it *can* be overwhelming
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3/16/2015 12:37:38 AM
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At 3/16/2015 12:19:36 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:16:29 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:13:16 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/15/2015 9:28:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

Plato should be easily digestible and most of philosophy consists of footnotes to his works

Whitehead was a hack

, so I would start there. Just go through the dialogues.

I've found that his dialogues become more convoluted the more I read them

Ahmagerd!

There's so much there it *can* be overwhelming

True. I like the Stoics. They were badasses who stabbed themselves, like real men. None of that poison.

Mostly I was excited cause I thought you left, lol >.>
"See now Oblivion shimmering all around us, its very tranquility deadlier than tempest. How little all our keels have troubled it."
- Lord Dunsany -

"Over her head the stars, the thoughts of God in the heavens,
Shone on the eyes of man, who had ceased to marvel and worship"
- Henry Longfellow -

"We enjoy, we see nothing by direct vision; but only by reflection, and in anatomical dismemberment."
- Thomas Carlyle -
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3/16/2015 12:44:53 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/16/2015 12:37:38 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:19:36 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:16:29 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:13:16 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/15/2015 9:28:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

Plato should be easily digestible and most of philosophy consists of footnotes to his works

Whitehead was a hack

, so I would start there. Just go through the dialogues.

I've found that his dialogues become more convoluted the more I read them

Ahmagerd!

There's so much there it *can* be overwhelming

True. I like the Stoics. They were badasses who stabbed themselves, like real men. None of that poison.

They're all Whatevs. I just like (post)modern re-interpretation of their (the Greeks) shlt.

Mostly I was excited cause I thought you left, lol >.>

I did. This place is a shlthole. I'm just drunk and bored.
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3/16/2015 12:53:21 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/16/2015 12:44:53 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:37:38 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:19:36 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:16:29 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:13:16 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/15/2015 9:28:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

Plato should be easily digestible and most of philosophy consists of footnotes to his works

Whitehead was a hack

, so I would start there. Just go through the dialogues.

I've found that his dialogues become more convoluted the more I read them

Ahmagerd!

There's so much there it *can* be overwhelming

True. I like the Stoics. They were badasses who stabbed themselves, like real men. None of that poison.

They're all Whatevs. I just like (post)modern re-interpretation of their (the Greeks) shlt.

Care to recommend anyone Stoic-y?


Mostly I was excited cause I thought you left, lol >.>

I did. This place is a shlthole. I'm just drunk and bored.

= ( That's how I came back too, lol.
"See now Oblivion shimmering all around us, its very tranquility deadlier than tempest. How little all our keels have troubled it."
- Lord Dunsany -

"Over her head the stars, the thoughts of God in the heavens,
Shone on the eyes of man, who had ceased to marvel and worship"
- Henry Longfellow -

"We enjoy, we see nothing by direct vision; but only by reflection, and in anatomical dismemberment."
- Thomas Carlyle -
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3/16/2015 1:00:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/16/2015 12:53:21 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:44:53 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:37:38 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:19:36 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:16:29 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/16/2015 12:13:16 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/15/2015 9:28:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

Plato should be easily digestible and most of philosophy consists of footnotes to his works

Whitehead was a hack

, so I would start there. Just go through the dialogues.

I've found that his dialogues become more convoluted the more I read them

Ahmagerd!

There's so much there it *can* be overwhelming

True. I like the Stoics. They were badasses who stabbed themselves, like real men. None of that poison.

They're all Whatevs. I just like (post)modern re-interpretation of their (the Greeks) shlt.

Care to recommend anyone Stoic-y?

Foucault's later lectures are great. 'Hermeanutics of the Subject' is highly recommended.


Mostly I was excited cause I thought you left, lol >.>

I did. This place is a shlthole. I'm just drunk and bored.

= ( That's how I came back too, lol.

Yeah I'm just chilling with a friend and decided to check in. Disappointed as always lol but sometimes this section has something worthwhile.
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3/16/2015 5:59:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

Start by identifying to which philosophy you adhere, and then research which books are renown on that specific field. I think reading books about philosophy in general can be boring if you are not used to it.
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3/16/2015 11:04:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
My first exposure to philosophy was through this book:

http://www.amazon.com...

It's definitely a starting point and not a comprehensive guide to any of the philosophies that it describes, but it also gives you the names of all the books the people in it wrote, so if any of the philosophers they describe catch your eye, you can do deeper research.
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3/17/2015 7:34:47 AM
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At 3/16/2015 12:13:16 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/15/2015 9:28:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

Plato should be easily digestible and most of philosophy consists of footnotes to his works

Whitehead was a hack

, so I would start there. Just go through the dialogues.

I've found that his dialogues become more convoluted the more I read them

I love Plato, some of the dialogues are just enjoyable to read regardless of philosophy
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3/17/2015 7:39:56 AM
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At 3/15/2015 8:18:53 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I want to get into philosophy...it always interests me. So I want to know where some more knowledgeable members here think a good place to start is.

I started with this book, "the big questions"

http://www.amazon.com...

It's basically an intro to philosophy textbook. It covers all the central themes of philosophy by devoting sections to epistemology, ethics, God, etc and giving short selections of primary source text from major philosophers. I think it's a good jumping off point to find out what you are interested in and give some ideas of what books you should read next.
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3/17/2015 10:04:48 AM
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Just start with what you're interested in brah. For me, it was when I was questioning a lot about religion and ethics. So that's what I read. Just picked up a random book and started reading random articles. If I didn't know a term, I'd look it up on the internet.
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