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vi_spex
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4/3/2015 9:28:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
god or nut?

theists believe there is a nut inside the unbrekable nutshell, and atheists believe there isnt, while the agnostic accepts he dosnt know, and that they ofc dont know either

is god the nut in the unbrekable nutshell? or the inside of an empty unbrekable nutshell?
Chaosism
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4/3/2015 9:39:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I understand your metaphor there, but I think we have to build up to analyzing that.

Firstly, you say:

Belief = False

Right?
vi_spex
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4/3/2015 9:58:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
the highest mode of balance i know is binary code, 0 and 1

my physical experience of now is everything, and anywhere beyond that is the reflection of nothing
Chaosism
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4/3/2015 10:02:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/3/2015 9:58:26 PM, vi_spex wrote:
the highest mode of balance i know is binary code, 0 and 1

Can you explain that one a little more? Specifically, "mode of balance".
vi_spex
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4/3/2015 10:08:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
false and true, 0 and 1

my physical experience is the balancing point between my imagination and my memories

is=emotional experience of physical reality

the future is on, the past is off, and now is, is being the balancing point between on, and off, is on, is off, now is

0=nothing=information=separation=creation/destruction

destruction=turn my back
Chaosism
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4/3/2015 10:15:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/3/2015 10:08:35 PM, vi_spex wrote:
destruction=turn my back

I understand what you are saying, but., you should use a different word. "Destruction" has a physical meaning, and you and loosely implying that matter can be destroyed. Would it be appropriate to say:

cease to exist=turn my back ?
Chaosism
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4/3/2015 10:21:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/3/2015 10:17:08 PM, vi_spex wrote:
destruction=memory=death

I understand. You are very hard-lined, and your words confuse people.

May I ask your motives for continuously discussing this here on DDO?
vi_spex
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4/3/2015 10:33:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
after life is the grave, and after death is the soul rising from the grave, as a living dead, in my world
Chaosism
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4/3/2015 10:36:08 PM
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At 4/3/2015 10:22:18 PM, vi_spex wrote:
life is now, after life is death

death=future=belief=false
Chaosism
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4/3/2015 10:37:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/3/2015 10:33:48 PM, vi_spex wrote:
after life is the grave, and after death is the soul rising from the grave, as a living dead, in my world

Isn't that belief?
Chaosism
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4/3/2015 10:47:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/3/2015 10:39:28 PM, vi_spex wrote:
belief=dead(live)
know=life
knowlede=death

life is the opposite of dead and death

Your death is a belief, so it is false until it is now.
vi_spex
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4/3/2015 10:55:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
death is after life, without the after life there can be no dead rising from the grave

the physical version of death is inevedable

physical experience is transformation

if i couldnt die, i couldnt be alive, like if i couldnt get sick, i couldnt be healthy
Chaosism
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4/3/2015 11:06:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/3/2015 10:55:09 PM, vi_spex wrote:
if i couldnt die, i couldnt be alive, like if i couldnt get sick, i couldnt be healthy

If one is never sick, one can still learn of sickness from witnessing others becoming sick. Healthy is valid even though you, yourself have not been sick.
bossyburrito
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4/4/2015 7:27:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
This is the deepest thread I've ever read.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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4/4/2015 9:45:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
im saying if you cant be, just like, i can have no beliefs, but without my ability to believe i would be dead, not selfaware
Wylted
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4/4/2015 10:14:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/3/2015 9:28:13 PM, vi_spex wrote:
god or nut?

theists believe there is a nut inside the unbrekable nutshell,

Not true

and atheists believe there isnt,

Not true either, I don't even think an U breakable nutshell exists.

while the agnostic accepts he dosnt know, and that they ofc dont know either

I guess technically you can say anything is unknowable


is god the nut in the unbrekable nutshell?

No, that would be a nut.

or the inside of an empty unbrekable nutshell?

It actually couldn't be considered a nut shell if it was not the shell of a nut.
Wylted
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4/4/2015 10:15:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/3/2015 9:41:37 PM, vi_spex wrote:
yes belief is false, belief=be lie, as i have to imagine it

No dictionary agrees with these definitions.
sdavio
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4/4/2015 10:19:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/3/2015 9:28:13 PM, vi_spex wrote:
god or nut?

theists believe there is a nut inside the unbrekable nutshell, and atheists believe there isnt, while the agnostic accepts he dosnt know, and that they ofc dont know either

is god the nut in the unbrekable nutshell? or the inside of an empty unbrekable nutshell?

God is not a nut, or any kind of food, so I think that a theist would consider it essential that we see that the way I'm convinced of a nut hinges on a different form of belief to the way I understand God. We should understand God on His own terms, I think.

That said, I'm agnostic, although I'm not sure what 'chaosism' is.
"Logic is the money of the mind." - Karl Marx
vi_spex
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4/4/2015 11:04:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
so, if you believe that there is a nut inside the nutshell, what is your position on that claim, that there is a nut inside it
Fkkize
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4/4/2015 11:16:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
This is hilarious :D
: At 7/2/2016 3:05:07 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
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: space contradicts logic
Chaosism
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4/5/2015 12:27:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/4/2015 10:19:25 AM, sdavio wrote:
That said, I'm agnostic, although I'm not sure what 'chaosism' is.

I try to not let my stance show through in arguments. I figure that if I am approaching a topic from a truly objective perspective, then it should be pretty difficult to ascertain my opinion.