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A silly objection to the ontological argument

dylancatlow
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4/22/2015 7:40:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
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By far the most common objection to the ontological argument uses reductio ad absurdum to argue that if the ontological argument for God is true, it could also be used to prove the existence of anything, such as unicorns. This obviously isn't the case, the reasoning goes, so the ontological argument is false.

However, there is a crucial difference between God on the one hand, and unicorns on the other. "Being" (as in, "The greatest possible being") is perfectly general, whereas the word "unicorn" places logically unnecessary restrictions on the entity. This obviously deprives it of any omnipotence that may have been implied by the phrase "greatest possible", since an omnipotent being cannot be said to necessarily assume the form of a unicorn. If this is the case, then the greatest possible unicorn is not omnipotent and is thus logically incapable of asserting its existence in a necessary way (a metaphysically necessary unicorn is a contradiction in terms). God does not share any of these restrictions.
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Fkkize
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4/23/2015 12:33:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Something that come to mind:

1) Wtf is 'The Atheist Experience'.
2) It's safe to say that this guy is intellectually dishonest since he presents an inaccurate version of Anselm's argument, an argument that noone seriously defends since Kant and Hume.
3) You have a good point.
dylancatlow
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4/23/2015 1:16:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/23/2015 12:33:25 PM, Fkkize wrote:
Something that come to mind:

1) Wtf is 'The Atheist Experience'.

It's an atheist call in show. Basically, they have a panel of atheists who answer questions from callers.
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Fkkize
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4/23/2015 1:19:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/23/2015 1:16:37 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/23/2015 12:33:25 PM, Fkkize wrote:
Something that come to mind:

1) Wtf is 'The Atheist Experience'.

It's an atheist call in show. Basically, they have a panel of atheists who answer questions from callers.

With this quality of speakers? Sounds pathetic.
dylancatlow
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4/23/2015 1:21:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/23/2015 1:19:47 PM, Fkkize wrote:
At 4/23/2015 1:16:37 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/23/2015 12:33:25 PM, Fkkize wrote:
Something that come to mind:

1) Wtf is 'The Atheist Experience'.

It's an atheist call in show. Basically, they have a panel of atheists who answer questions from callers.

With this quality of speakers? Sounds pathetic.

Lol. They're usually more mature than this.
"In case anyone hasn't noticed it, the West is in extremis. The undertaker is checking his watch at the foot of its bed, and there's a sinister kettle of croaking, money-feathered vultures on the roof."