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Graincruncher
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4/25/2015 4:57:55 AM
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At 4/25/2015 4:39:41 AM, Furyan5 wrote:
Does a tangible sense exist which explains the theist versus atheist arguments.

Not according to the evidence.
Furyan5
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4/25/2015 7:13:00 AM
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At 4/25/2015 4:57:55 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 4/25/2015 4:39:41 AM, Furyan5 wrote:
Does a tangible sense exist which explains the theist versus atheist arguments.

Not according to the evidence.

that's what the blind man said about rainbows.
Otokage
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4/25/2015 2:38:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/25/2015 4:39:41 AM, Furyan5 wrote:
Does a tangible sense exist which explains the theist versus atheist arguments.

Yes, the sense of sanity.
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4/25/2015 2:51:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Apparently telepathy is the sixth sense, but it could also be psychokinesis (telekinesis)
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4/25/2015 2:55:43 PM
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Overall, the sixth sense is apparently "extrasensory perception".

For telepathy as being the alleged sixth sense:

http://mobile.news.com.au...

http://sixthsensereader.org...

For telekinesis:

http://www.unexplainedstuff.com...
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4/25/2015 3:03:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/25/2015 4:39:41 AM, Furyan5 wrote:
Does a tangible sense exist which explains the theist versus atheist arguments.

To some extent, I believe in a sixth sense.
For me, it manifests in my ability to make nearly perfect mental maps of all locations I've visited.
That's the extent of it.

Sure some people may have a special use of their other senses that might confuse them such as being able to read a person's movements and assuming to be able to read their mind.

However I do not believe someone is able to move objects or see the future with their minds.
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4/25/2015 3:04:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I dnt think so. I believe it has more to do with electromagnetic fields. We have medical proof of certain people being hypersensitive to it. But that's just a theory.
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4/25/2015 3:07:29 PM
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You know what?
Never mind on the Spatial Map thing.
An enhanced form of an ability humans already posses shouldn't be counted as an extra sense.
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4/25/2015 3:23:09 PM
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If its a tangible sense possessed by billions of people to various degrees we have no choice but to acknowledge its existance.
Graincruncher
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4/26/2015 2:23:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/25/2015 7:13:00 AM, Furyan5 wrote:
At 4/25/2015 4:57:55 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 4/25/2015 4:39:41 AM, Furyan5 wrote:
Does a tangible sense exist which explains the theist versus atheist arguments.

Not according to the evidence.

that's what the blind man said about rainbows.

Not after decades of extensive, carefully controlled testing and analysis it wasn't.

You do realise you specified 'tangible', right?
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4/26/2015 2:52:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/25/2015 2:55:43 PM, really12 wrote:
Overall, the sixth sense is apparently "extrasensory perception".

For telepathy as being the alleged sixth sense:

http://mobile.news.com.au...

http://sixthsensereader.org...

For telekinesis:

http://www.unexplainedstuff.com...

Can you post some links a respected publication or scientific study?
Those links were either the cherry-picking of quotes by the media or fringe sites.
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4/26/2015 2:57:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I never claimed those are the 6th sense. I make no claim whatsoever on what the sense is or how it functions. My assumption is based on logic not fact.
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4/26/2015 3:16:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/26/2015 2:57:43 PM, Furyan5 wrote:
I never claimed those are the 6th sense. I make no claim whatsoever on what the sense is or how it functions. My assumption is based on logic not fact.

In that case, can you at least explain your logic, as you have not yet done so.
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4/26/2015 3:52:46 PM
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consider the athiest/thiest debate. It has continued for centuries. Despite the impossibility of such a being existing people still believe. What would cause this?

Consider a argument on the existance of rainbows between a blind man and one who can see. Intelligence plays no part in it. Those who can see know rainbows exist. But how do you describe seeing to a blind person? Colours? On the other hand think of a rainbow. You can't touch it. It vanishes when you get closer. Think how illogical that would sound to a blind person?

The only logical reason people would believe in Gods existance is if they have a tangible sense that tells them he exists. Well that's the basics. Its a bit more complicated than that.
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4/26/2015 9:10:32 PM
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At 4/26/2015 2:52:39 PM, kman100 wrote:
At 4/25/2015 2:55:43 PM, really12 wrote:
Overall, the sixth sense is apparently "extrasensory perception".

For telepathy as being the alleged sixth sense:

http://mobile.news.com.au...

http://sixthsensereader.org...

For telekinesis:

http://www.unexplainedstuff.com...

Can you post some links a respected publication or scientific study?
Those links were either the cherry-picking of quotes by the media or fringe sites.

Scientific research on telepathy to prove its existence:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com...

On telekinesis:

http://www.spiritoday.com...

For sixth sense overall:

http://scienceblog.com...
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Furyan5
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4/27/2015 2:43:07 AM
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I know its a difficult concept to grasp so I will give you a similar example. Picture 2 blind men standing in fixed spots in a room. One has a heater near him but imagine they are from a pre-electric era. One would say, "There is warmth in this room." Lets call him Bill.
The other person, lets call him Bob, would say,"No there isn't. "
Bill...Yes there is, I can feel it.
Bob...I dnt feel anything.
Now Bill has never experienced a heater so he imagines a fireplace. Its my personal belief that our comprehension of God is limited. Also note that various religions could evolve from what we imagine the heat source to be.
Bill...I think its a fireplace.
Bob...I don't smell smoke or hear wood crackling so there can't be a fireplace.
Bill... I feel its warmth so there must be.

I hope this helps clarify the concept.
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4/27/2015 4:32:05 AM
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At 4/27/2015 2:43:07 AM, Furyan5 wrote:
I know its a difficult concept to grasp so I will give you a similar example. Picture 2 blind men standing in fixed spots in a room. One has a heater near him but imagine they are from a pre-electric era. One would say, "There is warmth in this room." Lets call him Bill.
The other person, lets call him Bob, would say,"No there isn't. "
Bill...Yes there is, I can feel it.
Bob...I dnt feel anything.
Now Bill has never experienced a heater so he imagines a fireplace. Its my personal belief that our comprehension of God is limited. Also note that various religions could evolve from what we imagine the heat source to be.
Bill...I think its a fireplace.
Bob...I don't smell smoke or hear wood crackling so there can't be a fireplace.
Bill... I feel its warmth so there must be.


I hope this helps clarify the concept.

I think your question is a Oldie. IF a tree falls in a forest and No1 or nothing is there to hear it does it make a sound? It is a question with no answer. Because sound is what you hear.
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4/27/2015 4:51:02 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
So you admit such a sense is a plausable explanation for the thiest/athiest debate?

At 4/27/2015 4:32:05 AM, VietTurtle wrote:
At 4/27/2015 2:43:07 AM, Furyan5 wrote:
I know its a difficult concept to grasp so I will give you a similar example. Picture 2 blind men standing in fixed spots in a room. One has a heater near him but imagine they are from a pre-electric era. One would say, "There is warmth in this room." Lets call him Bill.
The other person, lets call him Bob, would say,"No there isn't. "
Bill...Yes there is, I can feel it.
Bob...I dnt feel anything.
Now Bill has never experienced a heater so he imagines a fireplace. Its my personal belief that our comprehension of God is limited. Also note that various religions could evolve from what we imagine the heat source to be.
Bill...I think its a fireplace.
Bob...I don't smell smoke or hear wood crackling so there can't be a fireplace.
Bill... I feel its warmth so there must be.


I hope this helps clarify the concept.

I think your question is a Oldie. IF a tree falls in a forest and No1 or nothing is there to hear it does it make a sound? It is a question with no answer. Because sound is what you hear.
mrsatan
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4/27/2015 5:00:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/25/2015 4:39:41 AM, Furyan5 wrote:
Does a tangible sense exist which explains the theist versus atheist arguments.

Possibly. People have dozens of known senses, and likely many unknown senses, as well.
To say one has free will, to have chosen other than they did, is to say they have will over their will... Will over the will they have over their will... Will over the will they have over the will they have over their will, etc... It's utter nonsense.
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4/27/2015 7:34:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/26/2015 2:28:29 PM, Furyan5 wrote:
Yes. that's why I put tangible there.

Right, and thus far the experimental data has shown no evidence of there being such a sense. Hence why your original response was a completely inaccurate analogy.
Graincruncher
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4/27/2015 9:52:14 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 4/27/2015 9:35:45 AM, Furyan5 wrote:
Thus far......

Yes. That's how I tend to treat evidence - I only go on that which we have gathered so far, not whatever speculatively might turn up in the future. It's sort of key to the methodology.
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4/27/2015 10:05:53 AM
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If I were to provide proof of a 6th sense would you admit the possibility of a God sense existing?
Graincruncher
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4/27/2015 11:02:03 AM
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At 4/27/2015 10:05:53 AM, Furyan5 wrote:
If I were to provide proof of a 6th sense would you admit the possibility of a God sense existing?

If you provided testable, falsifiable evidence then I'd certainly take it seriously.
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4/27/2015 11:09:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Is it just the lack of evidence that stops you admitting the possibilty or do you have actual proof that its not possible?

Is the concept easy to grasp?

Sorry for all the questions, I only thought of the idea a week ago. Its kinda work in progress.
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4/27/2015 11:18:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Review electromagnetic hypersensitivity. I'm drawn to the idea of a sense which detects the aura/electromagnetic field emitted by all living things. Such a sense would definately be able to detect God, if he exists. Various levels of the sense would explain the various views. Ie extreme religious to extreme athiests. Lack of understanding would explain the various religions. Even what they are sensing is open for debate. Possible?