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7/31/2015 10:20:53 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
"To the extent that any grammar functions by the recursive application of syntactic rules, SCSPL grammar is recursive ("self-calling"). However, SCSPL grammar is not merely deterministically or nondeterministically recursive, but telic-recursive. While an ordinary grammar recursively processes information or binds informational potential to an invariant syntax that distributes over its products, [5; grammar binds telesis, infocognitive potential ranging over possible relationships of syntax and state, by cross-refining syntax and its informational content through telic recursion. Telic recursion is the process responsible for configuring the syntax-content relationships on which standard informational recursion is based; its existence is an ontological requirement of reality. The telic-recursive cross-refinement of syntax and content is implicit in the "seed" of [5;-grammar, the MU form, which embodies the potential for perfect complementarity of syntax and state, law..."

Flesch Reading Ease: -3.81
This scale ranges from 0 to 100. Anything below 30 is considered college graduate level.

Fog Scale Level: 23.92
This scale ranges from 0 to 20. A score of 20 is considered "very difficult".
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7/31/2015 10:23:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
For more comparison, a paper that I wrote about quantum mechanics and space-time received a score of 38.57 and 16.35, respectively.
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7/31/2015 12:47:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 10:20:53 AM, BlueDreams wrote:
"To the extent that any grammar functions by the recursive application of syntactic rules, SCSPL grammar is recursive ("self-calling"). However, SCSPL grammar is not merely deterministically or nondeterministically recursive, but telic-recursive. While an ordinary grammar recursively processes information or binds informational potential to an invariant syntax that distributes over its products, [5; grammar binds telesis, infocognitive potential ranging over possible relationships of syntax and state, by cross-refining syntax and its informational content through telic recursion. Telic recursion is the process responsible for configuring the syntax-content relationships on which standard informational recursion is based; its existence is an ontological requirement of reality. The telic-recursive cross-refinement of syntax and content is implicit in the "seed" of [5;-grammar, the MU form, which embodies the potential for perfect complementarity of syntax and state, law..."

Flesch Reading Ease: -3.81
You know what you're at when Kant only scores 12.4.

This scale ranges from 0 to 100. Anything below 30 is considered college graduate level. Anything below 0 is considered sophistry.
Fixed.

Fog Scale Level: 23.92
This scale ranges from 0 to 20. A score of 20 is considered "very difficult".

Hilarious, thanks for posting.
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: space contradicts logic
tejretics
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7/31/2015 1:16:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 10:20:53 AM, BlueDreams wrote:
"To the extent that any grammar functions by the recursive application of syntactic rules, SCSPL grammar is recursive ("self-calling"). However, SCSPL grammar is not merely deterministically or nondeterministically recursive, but telic-recursive. While an ordinary grammar recursively processes information or binds informational potential to an invariant syntax that distributes over its products, [5; grammar binds telesis, infocognitive potential ranging over possible relationships of syntax and state, by cross-refining syntax and its informational content through telic recursion. Telic recursion is the process responsible for configuring the syntax-content relationships on which standard informational recursion is based; its existence is an ontological requirement of reality. The telic-recursive cross-refinement of syntax and content is implicit in the "seed" of [5;-grammar, the MU form, which embodies the potential for perfect complementarity of syntax and state, law..."

Flesch Reading Ease: -3.81
This scale ranges from 0 to 100. Anything below 30 is considered college graduate level.

Fog Scale Level: 23.92
This scale ranges from 0 to 20. A score of 20 is considered "very difficult".

+1 the OP, this is just awesome.
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7/31/2015 4:04:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
But the Fog scale doesn't take into account the tesis of recursive binding. Definitions are mental and therefore the CTMU is mental (it is in a mind of a self-reflating curve) the Fog is merely a non-mental non-actualized computational synthesis algorithm.

It clearly cannot be said to reflect the true variance of language in the CTMU.
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7/31/2015 4:13:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 4:04:44 PM, n7 wrote:
But the Fog scale doesn't take into account the tesis of recursive binding. Definitions are mental and therefore the CTMU is mental (it is in a mind of a self-reflating curve) the Fog is merely a non-mental non-actualized computational synthesis algorithm.

It clearly cannot be said to reflect the true variance of language in the CTMU.

Rofl...
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7/31/2015 7:27:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
If you test the CTMU as a whole, it comes out to 23.9 on the Flesch scale. Not too bad for philosophical paper with a lot of technical jargon. It's actually on par with works like A Critique of Pure Reason.

The passage you tested has a number of multisyllabic words which, in my opinion, artificially deflate the score.

If you remove the following words and replace them with the two syllable word "because" (which is probably around average), the Flesch score jumps up from 4.3 to 25.3 (27.8 if you also replace "complementarity"). The score is 21 if you replace them with the three syllable word "energy".

Deterministically
Nondeterministically
Informational
Information
Application
Responsible
Relationships
Requirement
Ordinary

Are any of these words really that difficult to understand? I don't think so. In fact, I don't see what other words he could have used in their place.

None of this is to say that the CTMU is easy to understand; it certainly is not. But it's not nearly as verbose as many people pretend it is.
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7/31/2015 9:19:08 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 7:27:03 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
Deterministically
Nondeterministically
Informational
Information
Application
Responsible
Relationships
Requirement
Ordinary

Are any of these words really that difficult to understand? I don't think so. In fact, I don't see what other words he could have used in their place.

telesis
transducer
syndiffeonesis
unisect
infocognitive
conspansive
ectosyntactic

How about this list? Many of the words don't even come up with results in google outside of CTMU stuff.
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7/31/2015 10:12:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 9:19:08 PM, sdavio wrote:
At 7/31/2015 7:27:03 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
Deterministically
Nondeterministically
Informational
Information
Application
Responsible
Relationships
Requirement
Ordinary

Are any of these words really that difficult to understand? I don't think so. In fact, I don't see what other words he could have used in their place.

telesis
transducer
syndiffeonesis
unisect
infocognitive
conspansive
ectosyntactic

How about this list? Many of the words don't even come up with results in google outside of CTMU stuff.

Syndiffeonesis, Infocognition, and Conspansion all have entire sections devoted to explaining what they mean. He never expects anyone to know their meaning prior to reading his paper. If there are alternative terms he could have used, please point them out. Otherwise, there is nothing to complain about.

Transducer is already well-defined and he explains what it means multiple times: (1) Computation theory recognizes two general types of automata, transducers and acceptors. Transducers convert input to output, while acceptors classify or "recognize" input consisting of strings of symbols without necessarily producing output. (2) Finite transducers ultimately rely on mechanical laws to function, transforming informational input to informational output by transforming their own states. (3) The upper diagram illustrates ordinary cybernetic feedback between two information transducers exchanging and acting on information reflecting their internal states. The structure and behavior of each transducer conforms to a syntax, or set of structural and functional rules which determine how it behaves on a given input.

Telesis is already defined (somewhat loosely) but since Langan's usage is quite idiosyncratic, he specifies what he means: (1) Telesis, which can be characterized as "infocognitive potential", is the primordial active medium from which laws and their arguments and parameters emerge by mutual refinement or telic recursion. (2) In other words, telesis is a kind of "pre-spacetime" from which time and space, cognition and information, state-transitional syntax and state, have not yet separately emerged.

Of course, this definition leaves much to be desired, but it's perfectly sufficient for a broad overview, which is what the CTMU paper intends to provide.

"Unisect" is obviously associated with the "homogeneous medium" implied by Syndiffeonesis, through which all informational distinctions are expressed. (1) Every syndiffeonic relation has synetic and diffeonic phases respectively exhibiting synesis and diffeonesis (sameness and difference, or distributivity and parametric locality), and displays two forms of containment, topological and descriptive. The medium is associated with the synetic phase, while the difference relation is associated with the diffeonic phase (because the rules of state and transformation of the medium are distributed over it, the medium is homogeneous, intrinsically possessing only relative extension by virtue of the difference relationships it contains). Because diffeonic relands are related to their common expressive medium and its distributive syntax in a way that combines aspects of union and intersection, the operation producing the medium from the relands is called unisection. (2)...their uniform differentiating syntax or unisect.

Ectosyntactic just means the syntax governing the distribution of and relationships between syntactic operators. In other words, the syntax of space. (1) ...its inter-operator (state-wise, ectosyntactic) level of structure [must] be regarded as essentially spatial in character.
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7/31/2015 11:02:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Unfortunately, the precious, carefully cultivated orchids of academia often forget in the course of their well-referenced but ultimately omphaloskeptical self-explorations that they very much belong to an intellectual closed shop, and that their own cognitive gaps preclude definitive judgments on the cognitive adequacy of the weeds that grow wild and free beyond the sheltering walls of their ivory tower hothouses.

Lol, this got -11.6.
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7/31/2015 11:04:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 10:20:53 AM, BlueDreams wrote:
"To the extent that any grammar functions by the recursive application of syntactic rules, SCSPL grammar is recursive ("self-calling"). However, SCSPL grammar is not merely deterministically or nondeterministically recursive, but telic-recursive. While an ordinary grammar recursively processes information or binds informational potential to an invariant syntax that distributes over its products, [5; grammar binds telesis, infocognitive potential ranging over possible relationships of syntax and state, by cross-refining syntax and its informational content through telic recursion. Telic recursion is the process responsible for configuring the syntax-content relationships on which standard informational recursion is based; its existence is an ontological requirement of reality. The telic-recursive cross-refinement of syntax and content is implicit in the "seed" of [5;-grammar, the MU form, which embodies the potential for perfect complementarity of syntax and state, law..."

Flesch Reading Ease: -3.81
This scale ranges from 0 to 100. Anything below 30 is considered college graduate level.

Fog Scale Level: 23.92
This scale ranges from 0 to 20. A score of 20 is considered "very difficult".

Bloviating Nonsense Scale: 100%
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7/31/2015 11:27:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 11:02:34 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
Unfortunately, the precious, carefully cultivated orchids of academia often forget in the course of their well-referenced but ultimately omphaloskeptical self-explorations that they very much belong to an intellectual closed shop, and that their own cognitive gaps preclude definitive judgments on the cognitive adequacy of the weeds that grow wild and free beyond the sheltering walls of their ivory tower hothouses.

Lol, this got -11.6.

It's a 62 word sentence.
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8/3/2015 7:15:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 10:20:53 AM, BlueDreams wrote:
"To the extent that any grammar functions by the recursive application of syntactic rules, SCSPL grammar is recursive ("self-calling"). However, SCSPL grammar is not merely deterministically or nondeterministically recursive, but telic-recursive. While an ordinary grammar recursively processes information or binds informational potential to an invariant syntax that distributes over its products, [5; grammar binds telesis, infocognitive potential ranging over possible relationships of syntax and state, by cross-refining syntax and its informational content through telic recursion. Telic recursion is the process responsible for configuring the syntax-content relationships on which standard informational recursion is based; its existence is an ontological requirement of reality. The telic-recursive cross-refinement of syntax and content is implicit in the "seed" of [5;-grammar, the MU form, which embodies the potential for perfect complementarity of syntax and state, law..."

Flesch Reading Ease: -3.81
This scale ranges from 0 to 100. Anything below 30 is considered college graduate level.

Fog Scale Level: 23.92
This scale ranges from 0 to 20. A score of 20 is considered "very difficult".

Lmao, #truth
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8/3/2015 7:29:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/31/2015 12:47:46 PM, Fkkize wrote:
This scale ranges from 0 to 100. Anything below 30 is considered college graduate level. Anything below 0 is considered sophistry.
Fixed.
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