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dattaswami
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8/12/2015 3:32:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Devotee:

Would you kindly explain what Shirdi Sai Baba meant by saying that He would speak from His Tomb or that His bones would speak? Thank you

Shri Swami replied:

Bones mean skeleton. Skeleton is the internal part forming the basis of the external imaginable body. The external body represents the human being. The internal skeleton represents the internal unimaginable God existing after entry in to the human being in the formation of human incarnation. This means after the death of the external human form, the internal eternal God will speak through the external tomb. The tomb represents another human being selected for incarnation. The tomb is constructed after the death of this external body only and hence represents another human form in which the same internal God (skeleton) exists. Thus, speech is possible through another external body only since the inert tomb cannot speak. The tomb is a temple. The body of human incarnation is said to be a temple (Deho Devalayah...).

You should take the interpretation with the help of logic. The words stand for spiritual meanings, when they come out of the mouth of the divine person. You must take the help of logic (Yukti) and worldly experience (Anubhava) while giving the interpretation. The words of divine personality are thus symbolic. If you expect that the voice will come from the bones through the tomb, the logic and experience contradict such meaning.

Some priests maintaining such tomb may stick to such impossible interpretation in view of exploiting people to do business. Of course, the unimaginable God can speak also through bones and tomb. God is very good administrator, who does the work through available easy path instead of very difficult path called as miracle that unnecessarily excites devotees. Miracles are occasionally done by God only in the case of highly deserving devotees. Also, miracle is not the specified identity of God like divine knowledge since even demons (Satan) also perform miracles.

posted by: surya (disciple of Swamiji)
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8/14/2015 1:40:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/12/2015 3:32:38 PM, dattaswami wrote:
Devotee:

Would you kindly explain what Shirdi Sai Baba meant by saying that He would speak from His Tomb or that His bones would speak? Thank you

Shri Swami replied:

Bones mean skeleton. Skeleton is the internal part forming the basis of the external imaginable body. The external body represents the human being. The internal skeleton represents the internal unimaginable God existing after entry in to the human being in the formation of human incarnation. This means after the death of the external human form, the internal eternal God will speak through the external tomb. The tomb represents another human being selected for incarnation. The tomb is constructed after the death of this external body only and hence represents another human form in which the same internal God (skeleton) exists. Thus, speech is possible through another external body only since the inert tomb cannot speak. The tomb is a temple. The body of human incarnation is said to be a temple (Deho Devalayah...).

You should take the interpretation with the help of logic. The words stand for spiritual meanings, when they come out of the mouth of the divine person. You must take the help of logic (Yukti) and worldly experience (Anubhava) while giving the interpretation. The words of divine personality are thus symbolic. If you expect that the voice will come from the bones through the tomb, the logic and experience contradict such meaning.

Some priests maintaining such tomb may stick to such impossible interpretation in view of exploiting people to do business. Of course, the unimaginable God can speak also through bones and tomb. God is very good administrator, who does the work through available easy path instead of very difficult path called as miracle that unnecessarily excites devotees. Miracles are occasionally done by God only in the case of highly deserving devotees. Also, miracle is not the specified identity of God like divine knowledge since even demons (Satan) also perform miracles.

posted by: surya (disciple of Swamiji)
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Yes this egomaniacal dismissal of the spiritual authority of the holy spirit. The fact that anyone could even posit what God considers to be deserving of a miracle is nothing but a slight of hand artist. In this case , its blathering simplisms to attempt to convey profundity. This person hasn't the authority to decide what the basis is for why God does miracles or who God thinks is deserving. You can always out people if they claim they know who God decides "is deserving". Highly deserving devotees?????? BS
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8/14/2015 2:19:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Devotee:
Is it possible for God to come in Human form?

Reply of Shri Swami:

How can one argue that the Lord cannot come down in the human form? If He is incapable of doing so, He cannot be omnipotent. One need not argue that though the Lord is capable, there is no necessity of such human form. You may not have that necessity. Are you the only human being on this whole earth? Have you taken the opinion of all the human beings to say like this? There are several devotees who belong to Nivrutti (path of liberation) and desire for the Lord in human form to see (Darsanam), to touch (Sparsanam), to hear the knowledge and clarify their doubts (Sambhashanam) and to live along with the Lord (Sahavasa) for achieving these three for a long time. The main purpose is preaching the divine knowledge and clarifying the doubts.

The statues or photos or energetic forms or space cannot preach the knowledge and that is against the universal observation (perception). Preaching of the knowledge by the human forms of the Lord like Krishna, Jesus etc is observed universally and accepted perception. Such universal observation is according to the rules of the nature. When something is possible through a simple way by following the rules of the nature, is it not foolish to do the same simple thing in the complicated way violating the rules of the nature?

When water is available in plenty from the tap, what is the necessity of producing water by forcing Hydrogen and Oxygen to react with the help of an electric arc? To show the production of the water by this reaction, this experiment can be performed once but not every time whenever water is required. To show the superpower of the Lord a statue or a photo or the energetic form or even formless space may talk once.

But to preach the spiritual knowledge continuously, the Lord need not talk continuously through statues or photos or energetic forms or space. Some devotee might have experienced such superpower in some place and in sometime. Such experience is not supported by simultaneous universal observation.

When you are seeing the moon in the sky, others are also observing the same moon simultaneously. This is required to authorize any experience. When this authorization is absent, your experience may be true or might have been due to some psychological disorder. The existence of such psychic experience is also observed in this world. Therefore we cannot isolate the possibility of these two cases in your experience

Therefore there is a necessity for the human form of the Lord and since the Lord is omnipotent, He is coming down in the human form. There cannot be any further argument on this point. I know you are worried that the Lord is modified into the human body and thus the unchangeable Lord has to be changed. Do not worry about this point, because the Lord is never modified into the human body. He only entered into the human body. The word "Asritam" in the verse of Gita "Manushim tanumasritam" means the entry of the Lord into the human body and not the modification of the Lord as a human body. Lord Krishna in Gita clarified this in the verse "Avyaktam Vyaktimapannam".

posted by: surya (disciple of Swamiji)

At 8/14/2015 1:40:36 PM, skipsaweirdo wrote:
The fact that anyone could even posit what God considers to be deserving of a miracle is nothing but a slight of hand artist. BS